Fluoro or Copoly?

[Jake51823]

Hey all, so I’ve recently been stuck with only three setups. I’m looking for suggestions on what line I should use for my chatter bait, spinner bait, jigs and some swim bait rod. 
 

I would like it to be manageable because I’ve tried straight FC in the past and it was a mess. Abrasion resistant but also slack line sensitivity for the bottom contact. Was thinking of AbrasX. 
 

Any suggestions? 

[MN Fisher]

If you're not casting around massive amounts of rip-rap or other large rock formations, AbrazX is a little overkill. InvizX is almost as abrasion resistant, but also quite a bit limper...search around for the best price (Psst: Fleet Farm)

 

Some will say Tatsu as it's the best of both worlds, but the price puts a lot of people off.

 

Second choice - Yo-Zuri Hybrid - I have that on my crank-bait rig and my #3 MH/F rig for general use.

 

In either case - don't forget the KVD L&L...it really helps.

[Jake51823]

26 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

If you're not casting around massive amounts of rip-rap or other large rock formations, AbrazX is a little overkill. InvizX is almost as abrasion resistant, but also quite a bit limper...search around for the best price (Psst: Fleet Farm)

 

Some will say Tatsu as it's the best of both worlds, but the price puts a lot of people off.

 

Second choice - Yo-Zuri Hybrid - I have that on my crank-bait rig and my #3 MH/F rig for general use.

 

In either case - don't forget the KVD L&L...it really helps.

Thank you for the suggestions. Tastu is a bit expensive for me. I know invisx is a favorite on here. Will give it a try. Appreciate the help  

[Lead Head]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

If you can't get along with Invisx or Sunline Sniper, fluorocarbon probably isn't for you. Either way MN Fisher is 100% correct about the KVD line and lure conditioner, it absolutely makes a noticeable difference in line manageability (in my experience).

[NHBull]

I was mostly a braid to leader guy and tried more FC than I care to think of....
Tatsu is king, InvisX is the queen, abraisx is the joker and  Defier Armilo usually gets the call before the joker

 

Edit..Gamma has an excellent  FC and gets a lot of love on other boards.  It's as expensive as Tatsu and acts like a combination of Tatsu and abraisx.

[bassnleo]

I've been a straight 30 lb braid guy for many years on my chatterbaits and spinnerbaits, which I *mainly* fish in dirty water, but at times did also use the same in clear water with vegetation. 

 

To this day, I still have braid on my reels. The spinnerbait and chatterbait bite has been pretty good for me as of late. Our rivers are up and dirty, prime time for moving baits. 

 

Two things have bothered me: 1.  I often land smallmouth that would easily come off if they simply jumped and/or shook their heads. The combo of braid, current, etc sometimes causes the hook to tear the softer areas of the mouth (mainly the sides). 2, am I missing bites because of line visibility? So, I've set out to experiment a little. I'll be trying a few different fluorocarbon lines after doing a little online reading. First up is Sunline Sniper in 16 for the spinnerbait and 20 for the chatterbait. I've also got GAMMA Edge in the same sizes to try, although generally the Edge is a bit stiffer and not as castable as Sniper. 

 

I'll try to remember to report my findings. 

[NHBull]

3 minutes ago, bassnleo said:

I've been a straight 30 lb braid guy for many years on my chatterbaits and spinnerbaits, which I *mainly* fish in dirty water, but at times did also use the same in clear water with vegetation. 

 

To this day, I still have braid on my reels. The spinnerbait and chatterbait bite has been pretty good for me as of late. Our rivers are up and dirty, prime time for moving baits. 

 

Two things have bothered me: 1.  I often land smallmouth that would easily come off if they simply jumped and/or shook their heads. The combo of braid, current, etc sometimes causes the hook to tear the softer areas of the mouth (mainly the sides). 2, am I missing bites because of line visibility? So, I've set out to experiment a little. I'll be trying a few different fluorocarbon lines after doing a little online reading. First up is Sunline Sniper in 16 for the spinnerbait and 20 for the chatterbait. I've also got GAMMA Edge in the same sizes to try, although generally the Edge is a bit stiffer and not as castable as Sniper. 

 

I'll try to remember to report my findings. 

Gamma edge will often  be thicker for the same Guage and that throws many off

Compare line diameter, not stated strength for a true comparison 

[padon]

as someone else said invisx and sniper are pretty hard to beat for being manageable , strong , abrasion resistant and fairly priced.

[new2BC4bass]

Maybe try Sufix Advance Mono?  Haven't tried mine yet, but supposed to have less stretch than most mono/fluoro lines and good abrasion resistance.

 

[BobbyBudnick]

13 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

Maybe try Sufix Advance Mono?  Haven't tried mine yet, but supposed to have less stretch than most mono/fluoro lines and good abrasion resistance.

 

I want to try Sufix Advance next. I just started using Sufix Siege about a month ago as leader line and main line in 17 lb test for my baitcast reels. It's been great so far. Great knot strength with SD jam knot, low stretch, very manageable as a main line on my Daiwa SV reels

[new2BC4bass]

13 hours ago, BobbyBudnick said:

I want to try Sufix Advance next. I just started using Sufix Siege about a month ago as leader line and main line in 17 lb test for my baitcast reels. It's been great so far. Great knot strength with SD jam knot, low stretch, very manageable as a main line on my Daiwa SV reels

I use 8# and 12# Siege on several of my reels.  I like it. 

[FishTank]

I like both but for what the OP described, Abrazx would work just fine.  I have been using it for jigs the last few years in 12lb and 15lb and have no complaints.   It last long, knot strength is good, and it has been good on abrasion resistance.   A small downside of it to me is that it doesn't cast as well as other FC.  It could be just me though.   

[desmobob]

I loved InvisX for its easy handling qualities but the razor-sharp zebra mussels in the lake where I fish raise up curls from it like a hand plane does with wood... shocking!  AbrazX is indeed more abrasion resistant but isn't as friendly.

 

I tried Yo-Zuri Hybrid and liked it.  I noticed that the 4lb version is WAY strong.  Further investigation showed it was thicker (at .009") than most 6lb lines and as thick as many 8lb lines.  That's why the 4lb Hybrid is so strong... it's actually 8lb test line, by strength and diameter!

 

So, like NHBull, I believe it's a good idea to check diameters and actual breaking strength when picking line.

 

 

[ChrisD46]

On 7/13/2021 at 12:15 AM, MN Fisher said:

If you're not casting around massive amounts of rip-rap or other large rock formations, AbrazX is a little overkill. InvizX is almost as abrasion resistant, but also quite a bit limper...search around for the best price (Psst: Fleet Farm)

 

Some will say Tatsu as it's the best of both worlds, but the price puts a lot of people off.

 

Second choice - Yo-Zuri Hybrid - I have that on my crank-bait rig and my #3 MH/F rig for general use.

 

In either case - don't forget the KVD L&L...it really helps.

Yo - Zuri Hybrid : #12 lb. or #15 lb. ?

[MN Fisher]

12 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

Yo - Zuri Hybrid : #12 lb. or #15 lb. ?

12# is plenty for up here...dunno about down there with you 'good ol' boys'.

[J Francho]

If you want to use fluorocarbon and manageability is a concern, then you should use Invisx or Tatsu.

[Team9nine]

16 minutes ago, J Francho said:

If you want to use fluorocarbon and manageability is a concern, then you should use Invisx or Tatsu.

 

...or just spend a little extra time in the backyard practice casting so you can buy and use any fluoro you want ?

[Mike L]

4 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

 

...or just spend a little extra time in the backyard practice casting so you can buy and use any fluoro you want ?

Ditto!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[J Francho]

I'm married to Seaguar.  She's the best!

[Mike L]

11 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I'm married to Seaguar.  She's the best!

Her little sister Miss Sunline ain’t no slouch either ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Big Swimbait]

Since I am braid to leader on everything, the cost of Tatsu doesn't hurt so bad when you can spool 10 reels. The braid I am using is 3-4 years old anyway so no real costs there.

[Boomstick]

I use fluorocarbon whenever possible, mono for topwater and braid for frogging and thick cover personally.

For this year, I've been using Daiwa J-Fluoro Samurai on a couple of rods, and it handles absolutely amazing. I also have 12# Shooter on another reel but the J-Fluoro handles better. I bought it late last year for $20-22 on ebay, I'm not sure if you can find it for much less than $30 now, but it's definitely worth considering. I also picked up a spool of Tatsu for $34 on ebay recently too, which I haven't spooled on a reel yet.