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Depends on the application, and the conditions that you use it in.

Also the size/ weight of the baits you intend to use. A little more info would be helpful.

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  • Super User
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There are some really nice steelhead rods in range of weights and lines around 8-10' 

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Two 8'6" , ML and MH

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As a rule, longer baitcasters are a lot easier to cast than shorter rods.  

I have this 8'2" Japan light game rod that's a joy and Very Easy to cast and fish - even 2-3 g out to 120' (with the right reel)

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This is the longest Yamaga Blanks offers, but I believe there are some in Japan to 9'4".  You can also build a wide-lure-weight-range bait rod yourself using a long fly rod blank (5-8-wt).  

 

A friend on FFR forum and fellow Texan had a 10' 5wt fly rod blank, asking what to do with it, because he didn't want a fly rod that long.  I mentioned a light game bait rod for shore fishing - he built it and loves it.  

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If you want to cast that 5 g, though, you'll do better with a reel that's capable of casting even less.  Daiwa SV brake system handles UL to heavy extremely well.  

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You're going to find a lot more rods available in spinning that will fit this niche - long light game baitcast rods are something new.  

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You're also going to get bass-fishing-specific answers on this forum, and your question isn't exactly bass fishing, it's shore fishing.  

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  • Super User
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   If you're "new to baitcasters", I must assume you're familiar with spinning outfits .... no? 

   The casting/timing motion for spinning and baitcasting are different, and if you try to cast a baitcaster like you cast a spinning outfit, you'll backlash every time and your lure won't go anywhere near your point of aim.

   There is no easy cure for this. You absolutely must learn the different cast and timing of a baitcaster. The easiest rod to do this for most people is a six to six-and-a-half foot rod with a moderate action. This includes what some people call "floppy" rods.

 

   The reason is simple: the slower flex allows the newbie to feel the energy storage and release easier. That's what allows you to set your timing; the feedback.

 

   If you so desire, you can keep the "floppy" rod and use it for crankbait fishing; many people do.  I mention it only as a tool to learn, so get a cheap rod so as not to lose much money. Most bass fishermen idolize the MH/F rods, with a length around seven-plus feet, and that's probably where you will end up ...... eventually. At that point you will know what the maximum length of rod you want to use, to accommodate your likes and dislikes.

   My favorite rod, BTW, is an 8' M/MF, 1/4-5/8. I doubt many other fishermen here would like it, but I sure do.

 

   I hope you have a great time!        jj

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29 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said:

Depends on the application, and the conditions that you use it in.

Also the size/ weight of the baits you intend to use. A little more info would be helpful.

General fishing (not for bass) lure weight about 5-20g (1/5oz - 3/4oz) max  10-30g (1/5oz - 1oz).
Need to cast decently far.

5 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

14' - ok, conventional rods this long are pretty rare - usually have to build your own.

This one is for freshwater fishing with baitcaster not conventional reel.

6 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

The easiest rod to do this for most people is a six to six-and-a-half foot rod with a moderate action. This includes what some people call "floppy" rods.

I'll try to manage with decent length rod if i cant i get, a small one to learn.

 

Let me put it this way, is length over 8' common to use with baitcaster on freshwater? Say 9' or 10' or 11ft?

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41 minutes ago, SergeiD said:

General fishing (not for bass) lure weight about 5-20g (1/5oz - 3/4oz) max  10-30g (1/5oz - 1oz).
Need to cast decently far.

This one is for freshwater fishing with baitcaster not conventional reel.

I'll try to manage with decent length rod if i cant i get, a small one to learn.

 

Let me put it this way, is length over 8' common to use with baitcaster on freshwater? Say 9' or 10' or 11ft?

Most bass rods are 6'6" to 7'6", usually somewhere between 6'9" to 7'3". 8' + is not common, and when you see it, it's usually for swimbaits.

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  • Super User
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Was gonna say for day in day out standard bass fishing I like 6'10"-7'4".

  • Super User
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12 hours ago, SergeiD said:

Let me put it this way, is length over 8' common to use with baitcaster on freshwater? Say 9' or 10' or 11ft?

They're called steelhead rods (and spinning noodle rods) in the US.  

Here are Lamiglas G1000 casting rods in lengths and weights as I showed above.  

 

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You can make your own with a fly rod blank.  

Only in the past few years, the Japanese have entered light game shore-fishing using baitcast reels, though, they've been shore fishing light game for centuries, and have been refining these long rods for decades (though, they're generally the same progressive tapers as fly rods).    

There are also long noodle rods - Okuma makes some, though spinning rods.  

You're kind of hung up on fresh/saltwater thing - the rod and technique doesn't care about the salinity.  

I hope this thing is on.  

 

Okuma SST offers these long casting rods, 10'6" to 12'4", though only the 10'6" has a lure weight range you might use.  These aren't as versatile or as good as the Lami rods, and nothing at all like the Japan light game rods.  

 

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What r you fishing from?? The bank, a boat . a kayak and what technique?   It’s a open end question.  

  • Super User
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The longest I've used was 11' but that was for float rigging for steelhead. The terminal rig can be very long, and the length is helpful for that. You don't really cast it either. It's more of a pitch or lob. This was a two piece rod so storing and transport was easy. 
 

My longest rods for bass fishing are 7-11 or 8'. A couple are for swim baits, a few punching rods, and a deep cranking stick. They are all a gigantic pain in the butt to store and transport. 

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  • Super User
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again, a bass-fishing answer, and the thread below still applies for shore fishing - fresh or salt - I hope this thing is on...

or inshore drift fishing, including working baits at distance

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  • Super User
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For bass fishing, 8' is the longest I have.  It s a crankbait rod and it takes some getting use to.  I can't see using anything longer to fish for bass especially from a boat.

  • Super User
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23 hours ago, SergeiD said:

Let me put it this way, is length over 8' common to use with baitcaster on freshwater? Say 9' or 10' or 11ft?

No, not common.

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