Spinning reel quesiton

[SergeiD]

Hello i want to get a really big spinning reel for far casting (not exactly bass fishing) my question is is it okay to say buy large size 6000 reel that is rated for 0.35mm 0.40mm and 0.50mm line and use it with 0.11mm braid line will i run into any potential problems?

 

And i am buying a Chinese reel and they often do it have same size reel with different spool sizes, i dont quite get it, is there any other advantage than less weight if using big spool (less capacity) vs small spool (more capacity)?

 

 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

The outside diameter is the same so all should cast a given line the same way. 

[Bubba 460]

 

Well I've never done any surf casting or heaved a half a herring with a two ounce sinker 70 yards but the words "far casting" would dictate that you would want a deep spool reel for that endeavor. With a 6000 size reel you could run whatever size braid you wanted within reason (the heaver the line the less distance casting). If you hook something really ugly you may need a good bit of back-up line in case the beast swims into the next county.

[ATA]

1 hour ago, SergeiD said:

Hello i want to get a really big spinning reel for far casting (not exactly bass fishing) my question is is it okay to say buy large size 6000 reel that is rated for 0.35mm 0.40mm and 0.50mm line and use it with 0.11mm braid line will i run into any potential problems?

 

And i am buying a Chinese reel and they often do it have same size reel with different spool sizes, i dont quite get it, is there any other advantage than less weight if using big spool (less capacity) vs small spool (more capacity)?

 

 

I have two spinning reels that 8000 size, I use for surf fishing.

1- ugly stick 15' with BG8000 spool it with 80lb braid and 100lb mono yellow high viz.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JH8FHQC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

2-okuma 10' rod with quantum 8000 reel spooled with 65lb braid and 50lb mono clear.

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Reliance-Spinning-Fishing-Bearings/dp/B07YFF5SJW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Quantum+Reliance&qid=1625961180&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-1

 

Both of them works perfect with power and bring the fish out with all that salad from the ocean.

Both of them have braid friendly spools and hold lots of line.

Please read about Spec online, But if you asking me, both of them feel $300 reels, even if they are less than $100.

 

Thats what I recommend, if you want smaller size reel, just buy smaller one and dont mix and match.

[bulldog1935]

I have the same type surf reel, made by Tica, and I have spool #2 and #4 below.  

Deep spool capacity on 76-mm diameter x 35-mm (or 45-mm) stroke spool is outrageous - the only time you would ever want the deep spool is offshore with big game braid - or maybe mono in the surf.  

Even mono, most people fish 15-17-lb in the surf.  

The 2nd most shallow spool, #2, holds 300 yds 36-lb X-braid, 0.18 mm  

The #4 spool holds 300 yds 46-lb X-braid, 0.23 mm

The #1.5 below would be the best spool to load your 0.11-mm braid.  

This is the empty #2 spool

 

300 yds 0.18 mm 36-lb X-braid

I fish this on 11' Tsunami Air Wave Elite 1102H

great taper and light-in-hand staggered-ferrule surf rod - the tip section is 7'  

Tica, btw, builds all those $300+ Daiwa surf reels, and many parts interchange.  

 

Definitely not a rig for casting lures in the surf, but great for 2-oz spider weights and cut-bait or gulp pieces for bull redfish and pompano.  

Keep that in mind about the 600-800-g gross reel weight.  

 

Typical light baitcast and spinning reels are often under 200 g.  

If you're casting a lot, you might be happier casting something like this - a 4000/5000 size Shimano with shallow braid spool, 280 g and 52 mm spool diameter.  

note that a 3000 size Tica Libra SX is a bit heavier at 350 g, and a bit deeper spool, but the same long spool stroke, excellent line management, and 52 mm spool diameter.  I fish these with mono or heavier braid backing and 0.22 mm working braid (15-lb Sufix 832).  

 

Same idea would work for you - fill up the spool most of the way with thicker mono or braid and top off with 150+ yds 0.11-mm braid.  

Here's the line capacity calculator for stacking lines of different diameter

[SergeiD]

Thanks for all info very helpful i am buying a deep spool (aka big pit reel).

 

Now other question i have is daiwa cross wrap reels, are there any other reels that use same feature or is there alternative name for it?

 

 

[SergeiD]

Does slant spool shape give any real world advantage over classic flat shape?

[The Bassman]

My concern with a tapered spool would be wind knots. It would logically seem that the spool lip would have very little involvement with line management. On a side note I've never seen a ported spinning spool. Just visual fluff. Not sure I'd trust the rest of the reel for such a demanding application. Too much Chinese stuff is junk. Just my opinion.

[bulldog1935]

7 hours ago, SergeiD said:

Thanks for all info very helpful i am buying a deep spool (aka big pit reel).

 

Now other question i have is daiwa cross wrap reels, are there any other reels that use same feature or is there alternative name for it?

 

 

Just about any long-stroke spinning reel will lay line that way.  

If anyone hasn't seen that Tica built the Daiwa reel in his photo, must be blind...

 

Slant spools - they're made for casting tournaments as opposed to fishing.  Straight spools will give you more reliable line management - that said, I get pretty good results on my Tica #2 spool, and haven't experienced a wind knot.  

You really need perfect line lay on slant spool, and you're not going to get that with a deep spool that takes line stacking to fill - if you look closely at my Tica Libra with the blue Sufix braid on top, it shows a bit of hourglass - you just can't avoid that when using stacked braid on deep spools, and would be especially bad for wind knots in a slant spool.  

Here's the Tica Libra again - note even Shimano gets hour-glassing when stacking lines on a deep spool.  

 

The Shimano is loaded with (probably Varivas) X-braid from Florida Fishing Products - 30 lb, and has backing with thicker 30-lb Seaguar braid.  

[SergeiD]

I dont want this thread to be about Chinese vs Japanese or US made purely technology discussion i know for instance Daiwa sells reels with "slant spools" and "trough cone lips" that go all the way e.g.


 

 

Another property lip design standard flat lip vs cone lip going all the way, i think later one increase chances of wind knots? How far from edge you supposed to spool line in reel that has cone style lip?

 

[bulldog1935]

Kind of the whole purpose of the trough cone lip is to prevent line hourglassing at the front of the spool.  The nice thing about shallow slant spools, you don't have to fill them to get good casting.  

With perfect application and shimming - here, the shallow #2 Tica spool with 270 m PE#1.5 X-braid - you can fill all the way to the rim, 

 

if you're getting hour-glassing, quit when the spooled line makes the rim height at either end of the spool.  

I always use the line keeper trough as a guide - when I can run my fingernail from the keeper trough over the line and not feel a drop or ridge, the spool is full.  Again, with hourglassing, have to watch line height front and rear, and may not make it to this height  

 

Spool shimming is important, also.  If your line is not laying evenly over the spool stroke from the beginning, back it up and work on spool shimming.  Otherwise, it will get ugly before you fill the spool.  

Tica spol shims are da bomb - they don't compress like dinky Shimano shims.  

Unfortunately, they don't come with the reel, so you have to call TicaAmerica and order the part - cheap enough, and worth the effort.