Smells like fish Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 I bought red Gamakatsu trebles for replacement hooks, and it didn’t take many fish yesterday to strip the red off. I’d say 1/3 is gone but another trip they are gonna be looking bare. Is this what we have to expect with using red trebles or is there a go to model of quality red treble I need? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 6, 2021 Global Moderator Posted July 6, 2021 They’ve always been like that and haven’t heard of another brand that doesn’t chip. I thought about using a hardener like clear nail polish but it’s not worth the effort to me. Mike 1 Quote
Super User islandbass Posted July 6, 2021 Super User Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) Nature of the beast. As long as they’re still sharp imho, I’ll still use whatever red hooks I might have on, treble or single. The red color might be more a thing to catch you or people that like to “color coordinate”, lol. Edited July 7, 2021 by islandbass Grammar 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted July 6, 2021 Super User Posted July 6, 2021 I use a lot of red hooks for various applications and the more they get used, the less red they are. 2 Quote
Junger Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 Losing the red usually means you're catching, and that's a good thing. Keep using them and resharpening them. 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 6, 2021 Global Moderator Posted July 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, islandbass said: The red color might be more a thing to catch you or people like that to “color coordinate”, lol. Don’t want to turn the subject of @Smells like fish intent, but I am the least color coordinated person you’ll ever meet, Especially when it comes to color of fishing gear! But yeah, I’m one of those ?? Mike 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted July 6, 2021 Super User Posted July 6, 2021 They engineer the emergent silver so that the hooks will better imitate the high mercury levels in baitfish's blood... 2 1 Quote
Smells like fish Posted July 6, 2021 Author Posted July 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: They engineer the emergent silver so that the hooks will better imitate the high mercury levels in baitfish's blood... It’s like Fred Sanfords view on prayer… he said “it don’t hurt none” ? but he also said… “you big dummy” red hooks fall somewhere in between ? Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 6, 2021 Super User Posted July 6, 2021 if you fish those red hooks in shallower water the red color won't fade as quickly... oe 1 1 Quote
Super User islandbass Posted July 7, 2021 Super User Posted July 7, 2021 14 hours ago, Mike L said: Don’t want to turn the subject of @Smells like fish intent, but I am the least color coordinated person you’ll ever meet, Especially when it comes to color of fishing gear! But yeah, I’m one of those ?? Mike Me either, but welcome to the club. 1 Quote
David 7 Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Always wondered what the purpose of red hooks are, is it supposed to imitate a bleeding bait? Quote
Smells like fish Posted July 8, 2021 Author Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, David 7 said: Always wondered what the purpose of red hooks are, is it supposed to imitate a bleeding bait? A flash of gold or silver is believed to signal to a predatory fish that a prey fish is in distress or displaying an abnormality which usually causes predator to target prey (fish, mammals, birds) all predators watch for such an occurrence. Such as a Johnson’s Silver Spoon. It doesn’t look that convincing to us but just the movement of lure and flash of its metallic body catches fish. It is also thought that among predatory fish the color red is associated with feeding as the red flash of gills displayed by a bass when it is feeding. We have seen packs of young bass move and hunt together. One movement of feeding can trigger a frenzy among fish. Large groups of bass school together during periods during the year. Bass are surrounded by their own kind throughout their lives and are no strangers to seeing each other feed. The color red to our eyes is the same color as those flared red gills they so often see their surrounding counterparts display, I can associate the red color of a lure or hooks being as beneficial as I can the metallic flash of the many lures we use. Will we ever know? No… but using red don’t hurt none ? 2 Quote
Super User ATA Posted July 18, 2021 Super User Posted July 18, 2021 Try Daiichi brand, I use them red for drop shot and wacky and so far they hold the color very well. 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 18, 2021 Super User Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 9:13 PM, David 7 said: Always wondered what the purpose of red hooks are, is it supposed to imitate a bleeding bait? Red hooks make the idiocy of marketing very, very obvious. Stage One: Someone discovered that red is the first color to disappear as depth increases. Stage Two: This is distorted into "red disappears underwater." They're talking about the color. Stage Three: This is further distorted into " red hooks disappear underwater." Ah ..... no. Not even. Step Four: Social media and advertising pick this up and manufacturers are forced to go along. If they don't, there's a possibility that their competitors might sell more hooks. Circle of confusion ..... or spiral of something else. ?? jj p.s. - My hooks are all bronze colored. That worked a hundred years ago, and it still works now. 3 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted July 18, 2021 Super User Posted July 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said: p.s. - My hooks are all bronze colored. That worked a hundred years ago, and it still works now. I never bought into the 'red hooks are the best' hype. All mine are black-nickle...they've worked fine for 50+ years - why change? 2 Quote
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