Far casting rod selection 50-100yd

[SergeiD]

Its for freshwater fishing spinning lures?

Need to find perfect specs for rod to cast 50-100yd.

1. What lure weight can fly that far?

2. What length of the rod, lure range and action?

[bulldog1935]

To cast out to 300', you should be looking at 9' and longer steelhead spinning rods.  

My Abu CT with 8' surf rod will cast 1/4 oz that far, but that's a special raced-out conventional reel that's not for everybody.  

Match the rod rating with your min lure weight at min of the rod range - If you want to cast 1/4 oz, pick a rod with 1/4 oz rated at the low end, e.g., 1/4 to 1 oz, etc.  

Also use the finest line the rod is rated for.  

What's going to cast farthest are spoons and jigs.  

[jimmyjoe]

   What @bulldog1935 said is correct; your best distance is with specialized equipment and heavy, aerodynamic lures. The flip side of this is that trying for that much distance with normal, usable bass fishing gear and regular lures will be fruitless. You mentioned "spinning lures". If you mean in-line spinners, the heavy Worden's Roostertails are the only ones I know that will go a good distance. And they have problems of their own.

   If you want to use Mepps-style or Panther Martin style lures, you can get distance ...... up to a point. A soaked Musky Killer might surpass 50 yards, but then again it might not. So much depends on your rod, your reel and your line. If you had the 7'-06" St. Croix Mojo Yak in MH/F with a 4000-size reel and the thinnest braid that you can buy that will tolerate the launch, I would say you'd be at the max for regular equipment.

  

   OTOH, if by "spinners", you mean spinnerbaits, then you've got a hard row to hoe. Spinnerbaits have a LOT of air resistance.

 

   Like a lot of new members here, you haven't told us where you are. It makes a lot of difference. If you're in a place where there are distance casting competitions, you've got a gold mine of info that you can tap into. You don't need to wait for Tommy Farmer to come around; most any of the competitors can give you lots of good advice.

   Surfcasters are the same way; lots of advice, and lots of demonstrations.

   These people might not be bass fishermen, but the knowledge they have can translate into a great advantage for you in regular bass fishing.

 

   Hope this has been helpful!       jj

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[Cravin]

I wonder what it would be like trying to set a hook 100 yards out with mono with a 9 medium action rod .......would you even feel the hit??

[BrianMDTX]

I mean this with zero offense to anyone, but most have no true idea how long 100 yards is out on the water. That is a long cast. 

[jimmyjoe]

1 hour ago, Cravin said:

I wonder what it would be like trying to set a hook 100 yards out with mono with a 9 medium action rod .......would you even feel the hit??

 

45 minutes ago, BrianMDTX said:

I mean this with zero offense to anyone, but most have no true idea how long 100 yards is out on the water. That is a long cast. 

 

   Once the OP figures out which equipment he wants to use, I think he'll figure the rest out pretty quickly. After all, he did start with "50 yards".

   He'll learn. We all did. It's part of fishing.   ?           jj

 

 

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1 hour ago, BrianMDTX said:

I mean this with zero offense to anyone, but most have no true idea how long 100 yards is out on the water. That is a long cast. 

 

[Jig Man]

You also need to be 6’10” and weigh about 250#.

[MN Fisher]

43 minutes ago, Jig Man said:

weigh about 250#.

Muscle like @A-Jay has, not settled around the middle like I have.

[new2BC4bass]

38 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Muscle like @A-Jay has, not settled around the middle like I have.

I'm not the only one????

[CrankFate]

4 hours ago, Cravin said:

I wonder what it would be like trying to set a hook 100 yards out with mono with a 9 medium action rod .......would you even feel the hit??

like a 300’ rubber band. This is only recommended deadsticking chunks, bait and wait using a bait runner.

 

7 hours ago, SergeiD said:

There are no perfect specs for that. 50 yards is easy, 100? You need a lot of practice, awareness of your body mechanics and more weight than is usually appropriate for bass fishing. Plus good weather and luck. I cast far with small rods, but I’ve been doing it, literally, since I was 2. And I had an abnormal focus when it comes to fishing at that age. Over the years, I remember my brother and sister crying they wanted to go home somewhere in the background hundreds of times. Not me. I don’t see hitting 300 feet happening with less than 2 ounces on a 7’ - 9’ bait casting setup. 3oz, is better. With an aerodynamic sinker. And a rod that loads properly to your arm. Lures won’t make it. Most casts won’t make it. Treble hooks will kill it. The wind will prevent it, unless it’s at your back, and even then, if you are trying for distance, the wind coming from behind, when it’s fast, will still put a drag on your weight and slow it down from behind. You do not need a 9’ or longer surf rod, but they do make it easier. You need the right rod, reel and line. What you really need is everything no one will ever be able to tell you. Just knowing by yourself. And trial and error. I never saw a lure travel 300 feet.

[NOC 1]

4 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

 

   Once the OP figures out which equipment he wants to use, I think he'll figure the rest out pretty quickly. After all, he did start with "50 yards".

   He'll learn. We all did. It's part of fishing.   ?           jj

 

 

LOL...I feel pretty good if I'm getting 50 yd. with most stuff.

[MN Fisher]

13 minutes ago, NOC 1 said:

LOL...I feel pretty good if I'm getting 50 yd. with most stuff.

You and me both, man. I average 35-40 yds...a 50 is a long cast for me.

[jbsoonerfan]

Some people have no clue how far 100 yards actually is.

[SergeiD]

11 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

To cast out to 300', you should be looking at 9' and longer steelhead spinning rods.  

My Abu CT with 8' surf rod will cast 1/4 oz that far, but that's a special raced-out conventional reel that's not for everybody.  

 

Also use the finest line the rod is rated for.  

What's going to cast farthest are spoons and jigs.  

 

Wow 1/4oz from info i find online everyone say you need like 2-3oz  to cast close to 100yd mark.
Can you give more info on exact setup you using i am willing to try conventional reel now.

 

  

9 hours ago, Cravin said:

I wonder what it would be like trying to set a hook 100 yards out with mono with a 9 medium action rod .......would you even feel the hit??

I heard past 50 yd its close to impossible to even feel the bite on mono because it stretch too much, however braid line almost no stretch so 50-100 yards its a braid plus at the equal LB test it has much lower diameter than mono.
 

[SergeiD]

11 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Match the rod rating with your min lure weight at min of the rod range - If you want to cast 1/4 oz, pick a rod with 1/4 oz rated at the low end, e.g., 1/4 to 1 oz, etc. 

From what i understand need to load rod as much as possible say i have rod rated

1/2oz to 1 oz then i need to throw weight closer to 1oz to achieve maximum load, if i use 1/2oz it will only load a little bit.

[SergeiD]

BTW what means raced-out when you refer to reel?

[bulldog1935]

@SergeiD

My reel is Abu CT built on a 5500-width barstock frame (Akios - there are several choices out there).  

Avail Microcast spool  AMB5550UC (appears to be discontinued, or at least OOS everywhere), unshielded hybrid ceramic bearings, and Avail internally adjustable mag that matches the spool.  

ZZeta spindle and Rocket ReelCo speed bullet (the drives don't matter, but these have Rocket ReelCo stainless drives).  

I'm using the lightest Abu 6-pin centrifugal, p/n 1116727, with 2 pins engaged - I also prefer this centrifugal for reduced pinion wear.  

Lined with 200 m PE#1.5 Duel X-wire braid (30-lb test)

I can get over 50 yds consistently with TSL grasswalker on unweighted swimbait hook, a spoon will go farther, and even a 1/2-oz spoon will sail 100 yds.  Hedgehog Alchemy Ultralight on bearings and centrifugal race.  

I've hit a sweet spot with this combination and my (internal) mag adjustment (trial, remove the cap and re-adjust, error, etc.), which matches the 1/4 oz lure perfectly.  

My 6500-width built otherwise identical, holds 300 m of the same X-braid, needs more weight and longer rod to go that far.  It also needs two more centrifugal pins engaged with more weight.  Probably the biggest effect on this reel, in place of the speed bullet, I used Mike's BB bushing and BB reel gear so I'd have a working clicker for bait feed - the gear has a wind effect inside the backplate, plus 2 extra BB directly pinned to the spool.  

 

Still impressive cast distance and ease, especially with 1 oz on the RH rod just below, but not quite as racy as my 5500.  

 

My 5500CT custom is on RH Composites SS861 8' - my surf lure rod and loads beautifully 

 

Not yet done with this project, but my 6500CT custom is going on a ZZIplex Trinity 14' rod, and the fishing goal will be 2-oz spider weights.  

 

 

For those who harp and harp on about striking at distance.  The purpose of racing out your reel is to improve cast distance and reliability with reduced effort at both. Also to get the attention of pelagics that will follow your lure in and only strike in competition (on your reservoirs, think stripers and white bass).  

Where you test that distance is in the back acre and, oops, over the fence into the neighbor's back acre, so you move to the county park soccer field.  And since you don't drag your good braid through the grass, you pace every cast as you're re-spooling it.  6 paces = 5 yds. 

[FishTank]

 

A little info and fishing rod comparison.  He always makes things simple.  

 

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16 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Some people have no clue how far 100 yards actually is.

 

[SergeiD]

I read somewhere on the forum someone mentioned if line guides are further away from the rod it gives less resistance,

 

Why casting rods have guides very close to the plank compared to spinning rods?

 

[MN Fisher]

Just now, SergeiD said:

I read somewhere on the forum someone mentioned if line guides are further away from the rod it gives less resistance,

 

Why casting rods have guides very close to the plank compared to spinning rods?

 

Dunno where that came from.

 

The more in-line the guides are to where the line leaves the reel, the less resistance and more distance you'll get. BC guides are close because the line comes out that small aperture, spinning guides are further from the blank and larger near the reel because of how the line comes off.

[flyfisher]

I want to see the measured 75yard cast video....

Other than deep 15+ foot cranking and swimbaits, I have never had the need to bomb baits as far as humanly possible for bass fishing.

[king fisher]

On 7/4/2021 at 11:32 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

Some people have no clue how far 100 yards actually is.

For those people that haven't seen a football game It's the length of a football field minus the end zone LOL.  Much easier to score a touch down than cast 100 yards, but can be done with the right equipment.