Super User Cgolf Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 Well I was complaining one day about not being able to afford the book and my wife reminded me that libraries do outer library loans often. So I searched and saw there were multiple copies in Illinois and a couple of weeks ago I put in the request. Well now till the middle of July I have my very own copy to read and take notes on. If I really like it maybe some day I will find a reasonable copy to keep permanently on the bookshelf. Just glad I have the opportunity to read it at all. 1
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 It’s one of my favorite bass fishing book. I don’t understand why they don’t print more of them. 2
GRiver Posted June 16, 2021 Posted June 16, 2021 Have you seen the the prices on Amazon or EBay? Crazy!!!!
Super User flyfisher Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 can't delete post so just deleted the content
Super User MN Fisher Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, flyfisher said: (link) Realize that by putting that online they're violating copywrite laws and can get in BIG trouble...and by posting the link, you can too.
Super User flyfisher Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Realize that by putting that online they're violating copywrite laws and can get in BIG trouble...and by posting the link, you can too. I removed my post and while I do not believe what I posted was infringing on any copyright laws, it is most definitely a gray area that is not worth getting into on here. 2
garroyo130 Posted June 16, 2021 Posted June 16, 2021 I know im gonna get some heat for this but Knowing Bass has to be one of the most overrated books in my opinion. I think that a lot of its mystique deals with how difficult it is to get a copy. The book reads largely like a textbook on sunfish (book itself says things arent bass specific in some sections) and does not really make any reference to angling itself beyond telling you how fish in a controlled environment reacted to different stimuli. Personally I'll take good ol spoonplugging or in pursuit of giant bass instead. 1
Super User flyfisher Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, garroyo130 said: I know im gonna get some heat for this but Knowing Bass has to be one of the most overrated books in my opinion. I think that a lot of its mystique deals with how difficult it is to get a copy. The book reads largely like a textbook on sunfish (book itself says things arent bass specific in some sections) and does not really make any reference to angling itself beyond telling you how fish in a controlled environment reacted to different stimuli. Personally I'll take good ol spoonplugging or in pursuit of giant bass instead. I haven't read it yet but knowing the scientific reasons for behaviors can absolutely help in catching. A lot of those old school guys may not be scientists and may not know why things work but they figured it out and that is the same thing really just the reasons and way to acquire the data is different. see, now i have to read it lol good thing i have summers off
Super User MN Fisher Posted June 16, 2021 Super User Posted June 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, flyfisher said: I haven't read it yet but knowing the scientific reasons for behaviors can absolutely help in catching. I did borrow a friend's copy and perused through it. Thought I was back in college in my Aquatic Biology program...it's pretty dry reading.
Super User Cgolf Posted June 16, 2021 Author Super User Posted June 16, 2021 I will let you all know what I think. From what I have read on different forums that there is some good info in there, but not enough to justify the high cost and there is some that I disagree with. I would agree a reprint would be great like the slider fishin book I paid like 7 bucks for and that has a lot of good info. Now I am curious what flyfisher posted lol.
garroyo130 Posted June 16, 2021 Posted June 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, cgolf said: Now I am curious what flyfisher posted lol. The link to the pdf copy is readily available online. I personally read a gray market pdf copy or whatever you want to call it. The way I see it, it's not costing the publisher/author any money at this point ... the only people missing out on $ are the 3rd party resellers. 1
Super User Cgolf Posted June 16, 2021 Author Super User Posted June 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, garroyo130 said: The link to the pdf copy is readily available online. I personally read a gray market pdf copy or whatever you want to call it. The way I see it, it's not costing the publisher/author any money at this point ... the only people missing out on $ are the 3rd party resellers. Got it. Yeh the resellers are really making out good on this book. I never thought to look for it that way.
garroyo130 Posted June 16, 2021 Posted June 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, cgolf said: Got it. Yeh the resellers are really making out good on this book. I never thought to look for it that way. Yeah there's always someone trying to make a buck. I stupidly almost paid $60 for the in pursuit of giant bass book on the auction site until i realized lunker city is selling new copies for $20.
Super User Deleted account Posted June 17, 2021 Super User Posted June 17, 2021 21 hours ago, garroyo130 said: The link to the pdf copy is readily available online. I personally read a gray market pdf copy or whatever you want to call it. The way I see it, it's not costing the publisher/author any money at this point ... the only people missing out on $ are the 3rd party resellers. If that is the case, I'm gonna start stealing tackle bought second hand, since it's not costing the original owner anything. Idiotic thinking. 1
garroyo130 Posted June 17, 2021 Posted June 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: If that is the case, I'm gonna start stealing tackle bought second hand, since it's not costing the original owner anything. Idiotic thinking. If you can somehow steal the tackle while not stealing it? When you read a pdf of a book the reseller still keeps their physical copy and can still read it, sell it, or do whatever they want with it. An online copy is intellectual theft which hurts the creator (if they still have the ability to profit from their ideas) ... in the case of knowing bass, the creator has no way of profiting anymore.
Super User Deleted account Posted June 17, 2021 Super User Posted June 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, garroyo130 said: If you can somehow steal the tackle while not stealing it? When you read a pdf of a book the reseller still keeps their physical copy and can still read it, sell it, or do whatever they want with it. An online copy is intellectual theft which hurts the creator (if they still have the ability to profit from their ideas) ... in the case of knowing bass, the creator has no way of profiting anymore. Intellectual property or a pet rock, stealing is stealing, rationalize away... 1
Super User J Francho Posted June 17, 2021 Super User Posted June 17, 2021 It's stealing, and illegal activity or just promoting it is forbidden here. We're done. https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/ 3
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