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I'm wondering if I can find a moderate fast UL rod. Crappies are hitting small cranks but I seem to be missing a lot of fish. I'm wondering if it's the action of the rod I have. I have an Okuma Celilo 6' but it doesn't list an action. I'm think I would like a fast action for jigs and moderate fast for small cranks. I love my moderate fast action baitcaster for cranks while bass fishing and don't lose hardly any fish. Thanks and have a good one!

 

Pete

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My buddy has that rod and it feels fantastic..He likes it for panfishing but not sure of the technique....

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All of my small game (rockfish) rods are fast action with variations in the tip.  

While they're intended for shore fishing, salt XUL and UL, especially the tubular tip versions would probably make great crappie rods.  

Search Rockfish UL Rod on ebay and see what turns up.  You'll see a bunch from Shimano and Major Craft.  Out of my gang, the fastest is NS Black Hole.  

The solid tip rods have softer tips - some solid tips will literally double in half - while the tubular tip rods have faster tips.  

Lengths of my rods vary from 7-1/2' to 8'3"

Traditional short UL rods are para taper, with and flex through the mid and butt.  

Long light-game rods are progressive taper with a stiff butt section and long fast mid - most of the flex is in the tip.  

 

Here's a 7' Major Craft with tubular tip.  

 

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I don't own that rod, but I have fished with it. I think I remember it being very moderate. Either way, the 13fishing Defy Silver UL would do you well for a rod with fast action. 

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I bought a 7' ModF Fenwick Eagle for crappie fishing and it was a big disappointment.  Its really fun to catch fish with but its a noodle.  Try using some really sharp trebles Hayabusa makes an excellent treble that in the same ballpark as far as sharpness goes as the AM G finesse trebles but they are considerably cheaper.

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1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said:

All of my small game (rockfish) rods are fast action with variations in the tip.  

While they're intended for shore fishing, salt XUL and UL, especially the tubular tip versions would probably make great crappie rods.  

Search Rockfish UL Rod on ebay and see what turns up.  You'll see a bunch from Shimano and Major Craft.  Out of my gang, the fastest is NS Black Hole.  

The solid tip rods have softer tips - some solid tips will literally double in half - while the tubular tip rods have faster tips.  

Lengths of my rods vary from 7-1/2' to 8'3"

Traditional short UL rods are para taper, with and flex through the mid and butt.  

Long light-game rods are progressive taper with a stiff butt section and long fast mid - most of the flex is in the tip.  

 

Here's a 7' Major Craft with tubular tip.  

 

Not quite sure I could go with a 7 foot. The areas the fish are in are starting to get overgrown with the trees. I'm wondering if maybe the treble hooks are a bit small as well. They are size 14. I'm wondering if I went to a bigger size that might help. Or if that is just part of the game. Could be not enough pressure on the fish or too tight of a drag. I will be looking at getting a fast action for jigs though

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   Look at the Daiwa Presso rods. I used one for 5 years, but I used the 7'-06" one. I don't know about the shorter ones.                    jj

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12 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

   Look at the Daiwa Presso rods. I used one for 5 years, but I used the 7'-06" one. I don't know about the shorter ones.                    jj

The daiwa presso rods have a moderate action.

I have the 6', 6'6" and 7' models. All are pretty soft tipped.

I use the 6' model for stream trout. The 6'6" for tiny crankbaits and the 7' for 1" gulp minnows under a floater. Any of these would work well for tiny trebles.

For jigging, I use my rapala 6'6" ultralights. They have a fast action and are more sensitive.

I also have the okuma celilo 6' and shakespear 5' micro series ultralights. I would consider the okuma a moderate fast and the shakespear more of a moderate.

 

The size 14 are very small hooks though and it would be hard to keep a fish pinned on those hooks. A larger hook would definitely help. As long as it doesn't change the action of the lure.

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3 hours ago, mrpao said:

The daiwa presso rods have a moderate action.

I have the 6', 6'6" and 7' models. All are pretty soft tipped.

I use the 6' model for stream trout. The 6'6" for tiny crankbaits and the 7' for 1" gulp minnows under a floater. Any of these would work well for tiny trebles.

For jigging, I use my rapala 6'6" ultralights. They have a fast action and are more sensitive.

I also have the okuma celilo 6' and shakespear 5' micro series ultralights. I would consider the okuma a moderate fast and the shakespear more of a moderate.

 

The size 14 are very small hooks though and it would be hard to keep a fish pinned on those hooks. A larger hook would definitely help. As long as it doesn't change the action of the lure.

I don't even think you can find a Daiwa Presso for a reasonable price. I also like the look of the TFO UL rods

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I’m using a st Croix premier 6’-6” light power fast action for crappie cranks and couldn’t be happier. Soft enough tip with a good backbone. Caught these guys on a creme mini rat l trap.

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4 hours ago, digitalvoid said:

I don't even think you can find a Daiwa Presso for a reasonable price. I also like the look of the TFO UL rods

Know what the availability problem is with the Presso's?  I bought two (1-piece and 4-piece pack rod) in March and supply didn't seem problematic back then.

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Try a Kuying Teton 6'6" light power rod. They have a moderate/fast action and are perfect for what you want. Also makes an excellent ned rig rod too.

very reasonably priced.

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Been fishing a 7' UL all spring. Lamiglas X11. Rod is a mod fast action in my book and its a blast for anything that bites. Great for cranks, inline spinners, small grubs. Its no NRX but man its a fun rod for a small river or creek. Daiwa Presso and SC premier are good ones too I am sure. 

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I own a couple different ultralight rods from 5’-6” to my latest I bought last year a 6’-8” ultra light bps panfish elite rod which is definitely a moderate action rod. I find my two favorites are my earlier posted St. Croix premier and a All Star 6’4” light power fast action rod I bought around 13 years ago, it’s marked as a drop shot rod intended for small mouth fishing was how it was marketed. I cannot remember the series off the top of my head but it is my absolute favorite for panfish and I usually have a road runner in 1/16 oz tied on no body which I then dress with a 1”-3” gulp alive minnow or a  tube or a curly tail grub. These two rods are light enough to enjoy any panfish but can handle any bass that swims in the retention ponds I fish. 

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