Super User WRB Posted June 6, 2021 Super User Posted June 6, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 4:53 PM, FryDog62 said: Did this stretch test a few years ago, hope it helps ~ LINE STRETCH TEST I used a 12 foot piece of each line and hung an 8 pound weight to see how much each line stretched in inches. Below are the results - least stretch to most stretch. All Lines Tested 1) Trilene XT (Mono) 21-1/4 inches of stretch 2) Yo-Zuri Hybrid (Co-polymer) 22-1/8 3) Sufix Seige (Mono) 22-5/8 4) P-Line CX Premium (Co-polymer) 23-1/2 5) Maxima Treazure (Co-polymer) 24-1/2 6) Trilene XL (Mono) 24-3/4 7) Tectan Superior (Mono) 25-7/8 ? Berkley Sensation (Mono) 26-1/8 9) Sunline Sniper (Fluorocarbon) 26-1/2 10) Gamma Touch (Fluorocarbon) 29-1/4 11) Original Blue Stren (Mono) 29-3/4 12) Gamma Edge (Fluorocarbon) 31-0** 13) Bass Pro XPS (Fluorocarbon) 31-3/4* 14) Stren 100% (Fluorocast) 31-3/4* 15) Seaguar Tatsu (Fluorocarbon) 32-3/4 16) P-Line 100% (Fluorocarbon) 33-0* 17) Seaguar Invizx (Fluorocarbon) 36-0** 18) Berkley 100% (Fluorocarbon) 38-3/8 * Line snapped once and was re-tested ** Line snapped twice - length estimated Broken Down By Line Type 3 Co-polymer lines average stretch: 23.4 inches 6 Monofilament lines average stretch: 25.1 inches 9 fluorocarbon lines average stretch: 32.2 inches Line Diameter Line diameter can have an effect on stretch, but 9 of these lines all had the same diameter (.009 inches). Those lines are broken out below. The overall results are similar for the 3 different line types. 1) P-Line CX Premium (Co-polymer) 23-1/2 2) Maxima Treazure (Co-polymer) 24-1/2 3) Tectan Superior (Mono) 25-7/8 4) Berkley Sensation (Mono) 26-1/8 5) Sunline Sniper (Fluorocarbon) 26-1/2 6) Gamma Touch (Fluorocarbon) 29-1/4 7) Bass Pro XPS (Fluorocarbon) 31-3/4* ? Seaguar Tatsu (Fluorocarbon) 32-3/4 9) Seaguar Invizx (Fluorocarbon) 36-0** Overall observations: Newer Co-polymer lines being marketed specifically as “low stretch” for the most part seem to be accurate. Fluorocarbon tends to be the line with most stretch. Monofilament tends to be somewhere in the middle, although those with a thicker diameter (i.e. Trilene XT .011 and Sufix Seige .010) did stretch less. Line diameter may have an effect on the stretch of certain lines, but overall, lines of the same diameter seem to reflect that Co-polymer and Monofilament lines still stretch less than Fluorocarbon. Fluorocarbon lines tend to break easier when stretched to their maximum breaking strength. Note that this test was done with dry lines. When soaked for an hour, the results between monofilament and fluorocarbon were almost the same. However, fluorocarbon does not "stretch less" than most monos as advertised. Monofilament does tend to stretch sooner in the curve and flatten out quicker than fluorocarbon giving it the feeling to some that it stretches more. Fluorocarbon stretches less at the beginning of the curve, but once it deforms, it stays that way and can be more brittle and lose tensile strength. Time under force yields all plastics. The yield strength of line should be tested no greater then 40% of the line tensile strength period. Time no more 30 seconds. The tested line should be wet to duplicate how it's used. Tom PS, line should be grouped by diameter, advertised pound test referenced. 3 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted June 6, 2021 Super User Posted June 6, 2021 How do you sell a line that has poor knot strength and can only be stretched once before loosing strength and needs to be changed. I know. Tell the customers it is invisible, only stretches if over stressed by a snag, but not by fish, and triple the price. Then make 20 different types with each one being more expensive than the last. Marketing 101. Keeps me trying floro at least twice a year. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted June 6, 2021 Super User Posted June 6, 2021 7 hours ago, WRB said: Time under force yields all plastics. The yield strength of line should be tested no greater then 40% of the line tensile strength period. Time no more 30 seconds. The tested line should be wet to duplicate how it's used. Tom PS, line should be grouped by diameter, advertised pound test referenced. Agree, tried to capture a lot of that in the comments/observations below. Hard to make a real-world test for line stretch, got as close as I could but certainly not perfect.. Quote
Michigander Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 10:05 PM, ITO_ZILLION said: No. Copolymer is very high on my list as a great option also since it seems to be a best-of-both-worlds line by combining the invisibility/abrasion resistance of fluorocarbon with the easy handling/stretch of mono. Pline Floroclear is the stretchiest line Ive ever used. It was kind of fun to fish with because I never knew whether I hooked into a perch, a pike, or a bass. Ultimately,I decided that the stretch was ridiculous and abandoned it but it sounds like that's actually what you want. 1 Quote
Lead Head Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I've had 3 too many bad spools of floroclear to ever trust it again. I actually liked the stuff when it wasn't failing on every hookset. Believe it or not, I've had the most success with sunline sniper as leader with big hooksets. After several leader to hook failures on hookset using yozuri hybrid, I switched to sniper (because its what I had on hand) and haven't had any reason to change again. Even when intentionally swinging way too hard it has performed. I'm not as knowledgeable as many when it comes to the physics and properties of line, but for whatever reason sniper held up (for me) when yozuri hybrid didn't for a 6' leader. I can't speak from experience on invisx for leader material, but I would expect it to perform similar to sniper based on the experience I do have with it. Quote
jtharris3 Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 9:31 AM, roadwarrior said: Well, WRB has caught over 1000 double digit bass. Recently he shared a secret to his success: He sets the hook quicker than most fishermen. The moment you detect ANYTHING...set the hook! Great advise! Hook sets are free! ?? Quote
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