Bass weight and size?

[J Francho]

We should compare fish using displacement.  My advice, take measurements, weights, pictures, etc. to document your progress, and don't worry about what the internet says.  My smallmouth looks like it could probably eat both those largemouths, and it weighed several pounds less than either.  I don't remember exactly how long it was, something like 21".  It weighed 5 lbs. 10 oz.  Pictures all lie, so make them at least look good.

 

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2 minutes ago, J Francho said:

We should compare fish using displacement. 

I can see the thread now, "Caught this fish today, how much weight do I add to account for the meniscus"...

Awesome smallie.

[TOXIC]

1 hour ago, BassWhole! said:

Clearly...

My point being weight is the only universal constant not body shape or measurement

[J Francho]

23 minutes ago, BassWhole! said:

Awesome smallie.

Thanks. It was 1.766 L. 

[Tennessee Boy]

Would you rather fight a guy that’s 5’ 9” and weighs 225 lbs or a guy that 6’ 2” and weighs 150 lbs.  

 

Weight is the best measure of a man and a fish.

[David 7]

Caught this one today, how much do you all think this weighs? Caught it mid morning on a senko.

[Mike L]

2.50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[WRB]

Accurate scale weights the force put on the strain gage.

If a bass swallowed a 2 pound divers weight the 2 lb weight is recorded along with the bass weight. 

Length and girth can only ball park the bass weight.

The problem with water displacement the volume of displaced water is weighed. If you inflate a ballon and submerge it the volume of air displacing water is weighed, not the mass of the thin ballon that doesn’t change.

This is why length and girth and calibrate scale is used plus examination of the fish for species and internal added weights.

L X L X G /1200 = weight is accurate within 10%  when no scale is available. Anomalies happen do to measure accuracy.

Photo without a measurement rule can be misleading, unless the anglers smiles is a wider then the bass.

Tom

[J Francho]

Displacement measures volume and is usually expressed in liters or cubic inches. No one weighs the water their 350 small block displaces. I'm saying abandon mass and length altogether because they are rarely related. It was said half tongue-in-cheek, but also half serious. The bigger bass would have the most volume, not be the longest, thickest, or heaviest. 

[N Florida Mike]

2 hours ago, David 7 said:

Caught this one today, how much do you all think this weighs? Caught it mid morning on a senko.

2.5 to 2.75

[Bassin' Brad]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

 

L X L X G /1200 = weight is accurate within 10%  

Tom

This bass weighed 7.25 lbs on my scale.

It was 24" long and 16" girth. According to your formula it said 7.68 lbs 

I would say that is pretty close!! 

[rtwvumtneer6]

Pretty sure nobody is fact checking or policing weights on FishBrain.

 

My buddy ended up in court over that app... But I'm not going to open that can of worms.  

[JustJames]

I have weight and scale a numbers of 19-20” bass, they can be range from 4.5-6lb depends on shape of body (regular season not gut full of eggs).

Question to you though, are you completing with that guy for something or you just search internet to compare your 8lb with others? I wouldn’t brother with other ppl catch. I’ve seen many long hand fish all over internet, I just chuckled and told myself “Japanese wanna be?” sorry for Japanese reading here but they are the best long hand in the bass fishing world.

They might impress none fishing person but they can’t lie to the one who fish. 

 

 

[David 7]

Have to admit, there is something refreshing and simple about just measuring a bass instead of weighing it. I’ve been watching a lot of kayak fishing tournaments online and those measuring boards they have make a lot of sense. Also seems easier and quicker. Thinking about getting one. 

[TOXIC]

6 hours ago, David 7 said:

Have to admit, there is something refreshing and simple about just measuring a bass instead of weighing it. I’ve been watching a lot of kayak fishing tournaments online and those measuring boards they have make a lot of sense. Also seems easier and quicker. Thinking about getting one. 

While I agree it may be a quicker way and more convenient  from a yak, it seems you are rewarding a body shape more than size.  If the goal is to catch the longest fish and not the biggest fish then ?

[Bluegillslayer]

On 6/8/2021 at 4:01 PM, rtwvumtneer6 said:

My buddy ended up in court over that app... But I'm not going to open that can of worms.

You have all ready said too much, spill the beans!

[Choporoz]

11 minutes ago, TOXIC said:

While I agree it may be a quicker way and more convenient  from a yak, it seems you are rewarding a body shape more than size.  If the goal is to catch the longest fish and not the biggest fish then ?

The goal is to standardize a repeatable process that fairly compares fish across multiple competitors and minimizes mortality rates. 

[TOXIC]

9 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

The goal is to standardize a repeatable process that fairly compares fish across multiple competitors and minimizes mortality rates. 

I understand the goal but since all fish, in this case bass, are not the same body shape it is not standardized.  Weight is much more standard across all body types.  That’s why MLF still weighs them and doesn’t measure length except to set a slot for minimum size.  I have personally caught long skinny bass that weigh no where near what a short football shaped bass weighs.  Both on the same day out of the same body of water.  The long skinny fish is more valuable than the heavier short fish in a yak tournament.  I’m just kinda being the devils advocate since I don’t tournament fish anymore and will never fish out of a yak but it just seems like common sense…..

[J Francho]

It's the method of measurement and comparison that's being standardized, and has nothing to do with body shapes of fish. You enter trying to catch the most length, not the biggest. I don't think it's the safest form of measurement, and I've been critical of its use in kayak tournaments over the years despite participating. I just don't know of another method that doesn't make it easy to cheat. Even the bump board is subject to tampering, as has been well documented. 

[jimmyjoe]

33 minutes ago, J Francho said:

It's the method of measurement and comparison that's being standardized, and has nothing to do with body shapes of fish. You enter trying to catch the most length, not the biggest.

 

   Exactly. Thirty five years ago, I weighed my fish. Game warden looked at my catch one day and said, "Jim, I don't care if that fish weighs two pounds or two tons. If you're fishing here, it better be fifteen inches or you're gonna pay."  

   Threw my scales away and bought a tape.   ?                jj

  

[J Francho]

Right, length is much easier to enforce. 

[Deephaven]

I don't weigh or measure anything...unless I think it is a PB or it's a monster.  I find it really funny when people put an 18" bass on a tape or scale.  Obviously if you are in a tournament it is a different story.

[TOXIC]

I get it.  I really do.  You are just fishing for a different metric, length over weight.  So you have to then examine what then takes more skill to catch (which is what a tournament is all about right?)  Does it take more skill to catch a heavier fish or a longer fish?  Common opinion is that it has always been poundage.  I guess I would ask the question….How do you target longer fish?

 

 I know I’m splitting hairs because “Normally” a bigger/heavier fish will also be longer. And no one disputes a minimum slot that is measured by length but that’s not tournament fishing.  At the risk of being dubbed argumentative, I’ll just leave it alone.?. Fun conversation nonetheless.

[J Francho]

In any tournament I've ever entered, I just fish. The rest takes care of itself. 

[hokiehunter373]

You're assuming he measured it from stats and a pic off fishbrain.  Some people weigh their fish but barely any on there measure them.  He probably just entered a length, didn't think twice, and hit post.