Direct tie from this day forward.

[Bird]

I ordered some of those quick clips in place of the old school swivels to try and minimize carrying excess rods and reels......switch from a buzzbait to a spinnerbait. 

Well, today to my surprise, actually had a respectable LM bass walk a spinnerbait right out of the clip.

Didn't think it was possible. 

 

After the incident, continued into the cove with a direct tied spinnerbait and when I journeyed back out, could see the Bass still struggling to shake the spinnerbait, same place I hooked him.

 

Those clips are done !  Lol

[Scott F]

If you are going to use a clip on a spinner bait, you have to have a bait with a closed loop to connect to. 

[TnRiver46]

Welcome to the club . Tying a knot is far easier than opening and closing a clip 

[gunsinger]

I used Norman speed clips on crank baits, chatterbaits, and others with a closed eye. Direct tie spinnerbaits and worms. 
 

I can swap a crank much faster than I can retie.

[WRB]

The San Diego jam knot is ideally suited for spinning baits.

What type of clip can a spinner bait slip through?

I use Owner size 2 Hyper weld snaps for several  lures, no issues.

Tom 

[Bird]

10 minutes ago, WRB said:

The San Diego jam knot is ideally suited for spinning baits.

What type of clip can a spinner bait slip through?

I use Owner size 2 Hyper weld snaps for several  lures, no issues.

Tom 

Yes, was very surprised to see the clip on the end of line and no spinnerbait.....and no fish.

It was indeed an open loop spinnerbait but haven't had issues in the past or with the old school swivels. 

Here's a pic of clip used.

[dodgeguy]

That design stinks. The wire can wedge it's way out.

[Bird]

Just now, dodgeguy said:

That design stinks. The wire can wedge it's way out.

I gathered that. Lol

[the reel ess]

 

On 5/27/2021 at 9:14 PM, Bird said:

Yes, was very surprised to see the clip on the end of line and no spinnerbait.....and no fish.

It was indeed an open loop spinnerbait but haven't had issues in the past or with the old school swivels. 

Here's a pic of clip used.

The fish just leveraged the bait out because the wire is so thin. I've had a fish work the split ring out of a Chug Bug before. The fish fell into my kayak as I was lifting it with only the front treble in its mouth. Fish long enough and a whole lot of oddball things will occur. I use this same kind of clip on most treble lures. I tie directly to spinner/buzzbaits. 

Do you have a pic of the spinnerbait? 

[813basstard]

My man it takes literally 30 seconds to tie a knot..

[li_bass_hunter]

39 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

That design stinks. The wire can wedge it's way out.

Maybe with spinnerbaits but I’ve caught stripers to 47lbs and bluefish into the teens using those clips in the surf and never lost a lure or fish due to the clip. But for bass fishing, a simple palomar or improved clinch knot is all you need 

[Bluebasser86]

I'm direct tie with wire baits but I've been really happy using small clips with hard baits. I use a simple Duo Lock style and it's worked great on bass up to 7.5lbs. 

[JustJames]

I have used those in the past as well as duo lock type. I had only one time the clip bend off it’s shape after hard frog fishing (the smallest one 15lb?). other than that it is fastest and easiest way to change the lure with this type. I’ve caught numerous fish with it 5-6lb and never have any problem.

I also had cheap duo lock type clip open by itself and my jerkbait and lipless crank flew away twice.

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13 hours ago, 813basstard said:

My man it takes literally 30 seconds to tie a knot..

13 seconds for a 6 wrap uni.

[Fishes in trees]

13 seconds for a uni- knot?  You must have practiced.  I don't think I could do that with my semi-arthritic fingers.  I don't tie knots that fast.  I need to take my time and even then I don't always get it right.   Not doubting it though.   13 seconds when you're all ready to go or 13 seconds counting prep time?   By this I mean checking the line - assuring there aren't any nicks or weak spots - being sure that the line isn't extra curly for some reason, etc.  What pound test line?   I could see that a heavier line might be quicker to tie, mainly because it can be harder for me to see thinner lines - but that's just me.   6 wraps each or 6 wraps total?   Once the knot was tied, you'd need a microscope or at least a decent magnifying glass to determine how many wraps.  IF it is 6 wraps total - how well that knot holds under pressure is a fair question.

 

A 6 wrap uni knot in less than a quarter of a minute - I got to see that - to give me something to aspire to if nothing else.   Oh yeah - who is on the timer?   As a Mizzou fan -  over the past few decades, I've witnessed more than a few questionable timing incidents - Tyus Edney of UCLA comes to mind.   5 downs for Colorado's last national championship would be another ( and that happened at home!!)

 

That's enough to think about right now.  I'm not saying it can't be done - just that those are some pretty nimble fingers, so that makes me say "huh?"

 

Oh, yeah, - back to the point of the original post - I'm not a big fan of the clips.  I've tried several different brands, the names of which escape me right now (although the Norman speed clips were one of them).   All of those clips had a degree of difficulty which my arthritic fingers didn't respond to well.   In those situations when I absolutely have to use a clip I have to bust out the tiny needle nose pliers and still it takes a while.

[Bankbeater]

I had the exact same thing happen a few years ago with a duo lock snap.  Lost the bass and the spinnerbait, and when I reeled in the line the snap was still closed.  Since the spinnerbait I was using was around 20 years old I have to go with spinnerbait failure.

[throttleplate]

i use these vmc touch lok and nothing else, try them, get away from the duo lock you say you dislike.

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Touch-Lok_Snap/descpage-VMCTLS.html

[QED]

I've been using duolock snaps for ages and never had an issue arising from the snap. YMMV. It takes about 2 - 3 seconds to switch baits without even rushing.

[dodgeguy]

7 hours ago, throttleplate said:

i use these vmc touch lok and nothing else, try them, get away from the duo lock you say you dislike.

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Touch-Lok_Snap/descpage-VMCTLS.html

Best snaps made

[CrankFate]

If I’m using hardbaits or jigs I use the tiny spro  style swivels. If anything, for ease of quickly switching my offering. There are no bass big enough to break a swivel around here. I fish the D-Blue swivels because you can order hundreds at a time at a way lower price than spro.  

[Bankc]

I'm about 50/50 with clips.  Sometimes I use them and sometimes I tie direct.  I can't even tell you why I choose to do it one way or the other.  I just go with whatever seems easiest to me in the moment.  The majority of the lures that I lose are from not checking the last few feet of line for frays and nicks often enough.  

[QED]

7 hours ago, throttleplate said:

i use these vmc touch lok and nothing else, try them, get away from the duo lock you say you dislike.

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Touch-Lok_Snap/descpage-VMCTLS.html

The above don't appear to be available in sizes 0 or 00 (which I use for finesse fishing) so I'll stick with the VMC black nickel duolock snaps: https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/vmc-duolock-snap?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&ds_e=GOOGLE&ds_c=Shop|Generic|AllProducts|High|SSCCatchAll&gclid=CjwKCAjwqcKFBhAhEiwAfEr7zegIaQ72dnTGeypMiqtfFiwh0M5lJkDZ5DZ15jN34eXHVrwKzPPjRRoCxbMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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6 hours ago, Fishes in trees said:

13 seconds for a uni- knot?  You must have practiced.  I don't think I could do that with my semi-arthritic fingers.  I don't tie knots that fast.  I need to take my time and even then I don't always get it right.   Not doubting it though.   13 seconds when you're all ready to go or 13 seconds counting prep time?   By this I mean checking the line - assuring there aren't any nicks or weak spots - being sure that the line isn't extra curly for some reason, etc.  What pound test line?   I could see that a heavier line might be quicker to tie, mainly because it can be harder for me to see thinner lines - but that's just me.   6 wraps each or 6 wraps total?   Once the knot was tied, you'd need a microscope or at least a decent magnifying glass to determine how many wraps.  IF it is 6 wraps total - how well that knot holds under pressure is a fair question.

 

A 6 wrap uni knot in less than a quarter of a minute - I got to see that - to give me something to aspire to if nothing else.   Oh yeah - who is on the timer?   As a Mizzou fan -  over the past few decades, I've witnessed more than a few questionable timing incidents - Tyus Edney of UCLA comes to mind.   5 downs for Colorado's last national championship would be another ( and that happened at home!!)

 

That's enough to think about right now.  I'm not saying it can't be done - just that those are some pretty nimble fingers, so that makes me say "huh?"

 

Oh, yeah, - back to the point of the original post - I'm not a big fan of the clips.  I've tried several different brands, the names of which escape me right now (although the Norman speed clips were one of them).   All of those clips had a degree of difficulty which my arthritic fingers didn't respond to well.   In those situations when I absolutely have to use a clip I have to bust out the tiny needle nose pliers and still it takes a while.

LOL.

I hit start, then tied, then hit stop, so it was probably a bit faster.

That's tying time. No line checking, no clipping, add another 6-10 seconds for all that...

I held the tennis racket stringing time record for a while too..

 

[the reel ess]

Use a good brand. Tactical Anglers makes a quality snaps of this type. 

[WRB]

On 5/27/2021 at 6:14 PM, Bird said:

Yes, was very surprised to see the clip on the end of line and no spinnerbait.....and no fish.

It was indeed an open loop spinnerbait but haven't had issues in the past or with the old school swivels. 

Here's a pic of clip used.

Looked up that clip and it’s a Tactical Bassin design.

Tom