Super User the reel ess Posted May 24, 2021 Super User Posted May 24, 2021 I ordered one of these off Tackle Warehouse with a couple Cavitron buzzbaits. After a 2 week wait for the order to be assembled and shipped to me, they arrived. I got the golden shiner pattern double willow because it's what works best for me in the War Eagle series. This is the spinnerbait with a head on a swivel to help keep the fish from gaining leverage on the bait while you play it. They have a video on their website claiming there is less need for a trailer hook because a bass can easily suck on the bait because it's not stiff. I used it without trailer hook. When I got it I was disappointed in the color. It's much darker than any golden shiner I've seen-too much black in the skirt. But after two trips, I really like it. First, it has that swivel head design that also gives the skirt more action. And it's a heavier gauge wire with an actual eye to tie to. You could use it on straight braid, though I still use mono for this. It caught me two my last trip, including the best fish of the day. I would give it an A thus far, though it hasn't caught me any PBs yet. It does have a banded skirt, so I'll replace it with the War Eagle golden shiner shirt when this one comes off. They always do. Quote
michaelb Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 Yes, this is case in which you can believe the hype. The swinging hook on the spinnerbait is a real difference and is worth it, both in initial hook up and in keeping fish on. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 24, 2021 Super User Posted May 24, 2021 I'm sure it catches fish, but I want my hook to be fixed in relation to the upper wire, and I've never had a problem with either hook ups, or keeping them pinned when using a spinnerbait. 1 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted May 24, 2021 Author Super User Posted May 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: I'm sure it catches fish, but I want my hook to be fixed in relation to the upper wire, and I've never had a problem with either hook ups, or keeping them pinned when using a spinnerbait. More than the swivel head, I like the actual eye to tie to. And options for gold are a bit limited. I love War Eagle. I have a PB on one. But I've broken a couple at the line tie. Quote
michaelb Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: I'm sure it catches fish, but I want my hook to be fixed in relation to the upper wire, and I've never had a problem with either hook ups, or keeping them pinned when using a spinnerbait. Just curious, but why? What possible advantage is there to having it fixed. Have you ever used a trailer hook or caught the fish on the trailer hook on a spinnerbait? When they hit the trailer hook and miss the main hook (which happens a lot if you use a conventional spinner) that is an example of missing the hookup. Back when I used regular spinners, and I used them a lot, I definitely lost fish trying to land them, some times when bass would jump, but more likely, when trying to land a pike, directly at the side of the kayak, and they would explode with fury. I am sure I will still lose fish with the strikeback spinner, but it also does seem better, possibly dramatically better. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 24, 2021 Super User Posted May 24, 2021 When you catch a fish on the trailer hook, 9/10 it's hooked weird and the fish crashed the blades. Short strikes are not common, especially with largemouth. I find the fixed main hook better for reducing snags when I'm fishing wood, which is almost always when there's wood in the water. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 24, 2021 Super User Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, michaelb said: Just curious, but why? What possible advantage is there to having it fixed. Have you ever used a trailer hook or caught the fish on the trailer hook on a spinnerbait? When they hit the trailer hook and miss the main hook (which happens a lot if you use a conventional spinner) that is an example of missing the hookup. Back when I used regular spinners, and I used them a lot, I definitely lost fish trying to land them, some times when bass would jump, but more likely, when trying to land a pike, directly at the side of the kayak, and they would explode with fury. I am sure I will still lose fish with the strikeback spinner, but it also does seem better, possibly dramatically better. Like JF mentioned above, the safety pin design acts as a weed guard in addition to being a frame for the blades. When brought through cover, it will come through much better. I don't use trailer hooks on spinnerbaits, If they are not committing to it, it's not the right spinnerbait, or spinnerbaits are not what I should be throwing. In sparse cover or open water, I doubt there will be a discernable difference with a swinging hook Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted May 24, 2021 Author Super User Posted May 24, 2021 After using this one twice, I didn't notice it being any worse for hanging up on wood. I target wood cover with any spinnerbait. Quote
michaelb Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 Its never occurred to me to worry that the swinging hook would get hung up and I haven't noticed that either. It may be just as likely to be less likely to get hung up, since it may deflect away from an obstacle (not saying that; my guess is that it is the same). I troll spinnerbaits at times off my kayak, so that consists of flinging them backwards and then likely sinking to the bottom while I get set up to paddle, and then dragging them over and through and into whatever I am paddling (and I haven't had any trouble getting hung up). 1 Quote
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