Reel that casts fartherest

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Would it be spinning or spincast? I have read that, actually, a baitcast reel casts further than anything but that has to be for regular size or larger lures. This question pertains to super light lures, such as a Trout Magnet, which is only 1/40 oz total, plastic and jig. I guess that would be part of finesse fishing or trout fishing or panfishing. What do you think for these super light lures? I would think a spinning reel but I've been wrong before, lol!

[Black Hawk Basser]

Absolutely a spinning reel.  Probably a size 25.  I'd never go any smaller, people always buy reels too small.  The larger spool will help with distance.

[bulldog1935]

Abu 5500C3CT hands down - the answer to the title of this thread.  

Tournament distance casters all use variations on this reel.  

 

 

I recently set up a Steez for 2g with Roro-X spool (lightest 6-g spool made), and fishing in the same spot that I was before using a Vanquish C2000S on an 8' UL small game (rockfish) rod, I was casting 3-g plugs on the baitcaster on 8'2" small game rod farther and more accurately than I could 5-g plugs on the small game spinner.  

 

That said, you're in the XUL universe casting less than 1 g, and even though some BFS spools claim they can do it, I'd be looking at long Japanese small game spinning rods with solid tip and 0.3-g low-end capability.  Major Craft is a good place to begin.  

My buddy has one rated that low and it fishes the light stuff very well.  

They're designed for casting from shore to fish sign.  

 

The nicest thing about the Japanese rockfish rods, they have a wide lure range and can still fish 1/4- to 3/8-oz at the high end (the longer the rod, the higher the high-lure-weight end).  

Major Craft, NS Black Hole - makers with US importers - don't import these rods here - you have to find them in Japan or Korea.  

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bulldog1935, I actually bought a 6'8" Major Craft rod from Japan a few years ago for this very subject, a Major Craft SPEEDSTYLE 2 piece rod #SSS-S682L/SFS. I broke it first day just casting a glance at it! I actually don't even know how I broke it. That was ridiculous! I then had a rod repair guy repair it. He said he could but it could take several weeks because he would have to apply glue, let it sit overnight and do that over and over. Anyway, he fixed it and I broke it again the first time I used it in the same break spot. Again, I don't know how I broke it, I just picked it up and it was broke. Unreal! This rod has the smallest tip I've ever seen. It was recommended to me from an American JDM angler cuz I sure didn't know what to buy. The tip end is hollow and so tiny. Overall, super lightweight.

 

Last episode on this... I am picking up this very rod today from a different rod repair guy for the THIRD repair. For the 2nd repair, this same repair guy put a new tip on it rather than fix the break but after his tip install, it didn't cast worth a hoot. I told him there isn't enough distance between the 2nd line guide eyelet and the tip guide (after the 1st break), so, I had him now move the 2nd guide toward the third line guide in hopes it might cast better. If this doesn't work, I guess it's trash can time. Bummer, the rod is out of production and I cannot buy the top half to replace. This rod was $218 and I have not had a good experience!

 

I am back into this sometimes using very lightweight lure and I have had some success with cheaper rods but it's still not ideal. I even have a Shakespeare Micro Series spinning rod that does pretty good and that thing only cost $25! What I am after is casting distance. The lure is so light, it's going to have to be some magic going on. I think I need a pretty long rod and might have to use 2 lb test line, and probably a spinning reel. I don't know how expensive a rod, nor a reel, that it will take. But for this use, I am willing to spend if need be. Heck, I spent a ton on my bass frog rod/reel, so, I guess I could do it for this! If need be.

 

FWIW, I also have an 8 ft Sam Heaton Super Sensitive crappie jig pole that I cast with and it does pretty darn well compared to my other ultralight rods and it only cost $65. And it doesn't even have casting line guides, it has jig pole guides. To me, it's fun to catch fish on a long rod.

[bulldog1935]

Fine, but I have two Takamiya, 7'6" ST and 7'9" tubular tip, I've fished over a dozen years, including sight-fishing 22" and 23" seatrout in summer canals - these were modest-priced rods.  

They've landed doubles with snook and redfish on 2-g-jig tandem rigs.  

Standard fare for us imitating glass minnows in the Texas tropics during standing winter trips to Arroyo City.  

 

Newer, I have 8' NS Black Hole (modest priced), 8'3" Yamaga Blanks TZ Nano (flagship), and just added the Yamaga Blanks 8'2" Blue Current III baitcaster (mid-priced).  

 

I've seen Lou and his wife both crank in the Major Craft ST until the tiptop doubled over to the first guide, and they're still catching fish on the rod.  

 

Autter on ebay has three models of NS Black Hole Dark Horse Rockfish II (two UL, one ML) in stock currently, and I can recommend my 1st-gen rod as workhorse UL. 

[JustJames]

I’ve heard story about ppl broke their solid tip more often that I wanted to. I broke one myself but from operator error when I tried to whip cast a 3/16oz lure. 
Fixing broken rod tip, is an art from and I wonder if action or strength would remain the same and your is solid tip rod that gonna be even harder.

Of course casting such light weight lure like trout magnet, spinning would be the best both distance and control hand down.

I happened to have speedstyle UL 6’3 SFS as well with lure rating 1/64-3/16oz that I use for mostly trout magnet or 1/64oz jig head with 1” plastic target bluegill. I can cast about 40-50’ with nice lob cast. The rod can handle 2-3 lb bass no problem but feel over loaded casting just 1/16oz jig head with 2” plastic. If you are looking for long rod with solid tip for trout magnet with nice parabolic bend blank, you will have to look for light game mebaru solid tip rod (good for crappie and trout) but if you want nice stiffer blank gotta be Aging rod. I also have Majorcraft crostage 7’3 tubular tip lure rating 0.5-7gram that I use specifically for crappie casting 1/32oz jig head with 2” plastic about 60’ but won’t get as far as my solid tip when using 1/64oz trout magnet.

Line is also important, my friend can cast 2lb mono with trout magnet on his Majorcraft XUL rod, but to me no weight line like 4lb Nanofil is better and further.

 

[Mobasser]

My longest casting reel is an older ABU5500C. With a full spool and 10 or 12lb mono, you can really bomb a long cast out there. A newer one that cast well is a Lews LFS. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

All else being equal, for raw distance spinning tackle can’t be beat. Tournament casting is a whole other animal. 

[jimmyjoe]

     "This question pertains to super light lures, such as a Trout Magnet, which is only 1/40 oz total, plastic and jig. "

 

   Fishermen have used baitcasters to cast light lures for many years. They use one of the oldest and most effective methods in existence:

 

   They cheat.

 

   Depending on what you wish to do, which depth you wish to do it, and which lure you have, you can:

 

   1) use a water bubble half filled (or more).

   2) use a hank of leadcore line.  

   3) use pinch-on sinkers several inches to a foot back from the lure.

   4) use a piece of sinking fly line (that takes experimentation and far more patience than I have.

 

   If you want to come up with innovative solutions, you need to be ............. crazy. ?      jj

[WRB]

I believe a spinning reel holds the record for longest casting distance.

Tom

[CrankFate]

It’s not the reel, it’s the guy casting it.

[Tail Slap]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

I believe a spinning reel holds the record for longest casting distance.

Tom

A number of casting lure weight classes world records were set multiple times in 2019.

 

That sure looks and sounds like a winch not an egg beaters.  What these guys are capable of is amazing.

 

125g world record 280.69 meters:

 

 

 

In fact the one major team that came outfitted with spinning reels switched from being undergunned from what I could tell.  (Think they were Shimanos) More info discussing it hear  Distance Casting World Records

 

It gets kicked around all the time but all things being equal physics points to the winch not the fixed spool.