Beast Coast Miyagi Swimbait

[ajschn06]

Has anyone used this swimbait much?  It's caught my eye for sure.  It looks like with the recommended 1/4 oz owner beast hook, the bait comes in at 3/4 oz.  I'd be throwing it on a shorter (6'10") medium heavy fast rod rated up to 1 oz, is that going to be enough for this bait?  It's spooled with 30 pound braid right now but I could put something a little heavier on.  Don't want to have to buy a new rod for this bait but I might.  I've had a lot of success with the 3.8 and 4.3 Keitech's and I want to up my swimbait game a bit without jumping into the really big ones...

[Jaderose]

Sounds to me like it would be perfect for it.  I can't see any reason to go heavier on your line.

[ajschn06]

3 minutes ago, Jaderose said:

Sounds to me like it would be perfect for it.  I can't see any reason to go heavier on your line.

I'm just not used to throwing anything that heavy.... all my jigs/chatterbaits/spinnerbaits/keitechs are 3/8 oz or less.  That's a beefier hook than I'm used to using as well- just wasn't sure!

[Jaderose]

Sounds like you'll be right in the sweet spot for that rod.  I know others might say to use a LONGER rod but I personally like a 6'6" to 7'4" rod so tie it on and enjoy!

 

As far as the line, I've used 30lb braid for heavy frogging.  It's more than enough for what you're doing

[PhishLI]

10 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

I'd be throwing it on a shorter (6'10") medium heavy fast rod rated up to 1 oz, is that going to be enough for this bait? 

Nope, and 30lb braid doesn't have the impact strength to deal with swinging hard on the 6/0 Owner Beast hook, assuming that the rod has what's required to send it home. Think a true 5+ power Fast at least, IMO. If the hook's point ends up anywhere near a boney part you'll need to sock it in with bad intentions to have a chance.

 

Search all forums for this bait. I throw it a lot. I've enthusiastically recommended here it on BR, and have blown it a number of times because of the gear choices I've made from rods to line, and just recently by laziness brought on by exhaustion.

[ajschn06]

41 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

Nope, and 30lb braid doesn't have the impact strength to deal with swinging hard on the 6/0 Owner Beast hook, assuming that the rod has what's required to send it home. Think a true 5+ power Fast at least, IMO. If the hook's point ends up anywhere near a boney part you'll need to sock it in with bad intentions to have a chance.

 

Search all forums for this bait. I throw it a lot. I've enthusiastically recommended here it on BR, and have blown it a number of times because of the gear choices I've made from rods to line, and just recently by laziness brought on by exhaustion.

That’s was I was thinking.  It looks so good, I’m tempted to pick up a rod just to throw it.  I used to have a Tatula 7’3” heavy rated to 1 1/2 oz that would be perfect I think- 40 or 50 pound braid.

[softwateronly]

I haven't thrown the Miyagi in a few years and can't quite remember, but I have a 6.5" Creep tied on right now and it is a chunky, thick back of plastic.  It feels most comfortable on my Tequila Baccarac, even though I haven't thrown it enough to have a bite yet.  I agree with PhishLI that this brand would be better on a 5+ power.

 

scott

[ajschn06]

7 hours ago, softwateronly said:

I haven't thrown the Miyagi in a few years and can't quite remember, but I have a 6.5" Creep tied on right now and it is a chunky, thick back of plastic.  It feels most comfortable on my Tequila Baccarac, even though I haven't thrown it enough to have a bite yet.  I agree with PhishLI that this brand would be better on a 5+ power.

 

scott

Not that I disagree with anything you said, but the creep is over an ounce heavier than the Miyagi.

[softwateronly]

18 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

Not that I disagree with anything you said, but the creep is over an ounce heavier than the Miyagi.

 

Yeah that's a significant difference in weight.  I don't have the weights for either bait. 

 

 

On 5/20/2021 at 5:12 PM, ajschn06 said:

Has anyone used this swimbait much?  It's caught my eye for sure.  It looks like with the recommended 1/4 oz owner beast hook, the bait comes in at 3/4 oz.  I'd be throwing it on a shorter (6'10") medium heavy fast rod rated up to 1 oz, is that going to be enough for this bait?  It's spooled with 30 pound braid right now but I could put something a little heavier on.  Don't want to have to buy a new rod for this bait but I might.  I've had a lot of success with the 3.8 and 4.3 Keitech's and I want to up my swimbait game a bit without jumping into the really big ones...

   

I was telling you that your set up will be a little underpowered because Beast Coast uses a heavy, dense plastic.  To me, overall weight is about casting.  How the bait feels in the water is more about how it uses water resistance to achieve action and how that resistance impacts the rod.  Third, once a fish bites, how much effort is required to effectively set the hook.  

 

What I was trying to say, and this is strictly my opinion, is that your current set up seems  "slightly" under powered in one and three.  I would definitely fish the bait with what you have, I wouldn't even change the line.  I'd lob the first few casts to make sure max weight felt fine casting and I'd hit the hookset harder than normal, then decide from there.

 

scott