Swimbait vs swimming worm?

[PressuredFishing]

Hi, so I fish my swimbaits on a belly weighted weed less hook, and I was wondering when I should choose a swimbait over a swimming worm. Both are weedless, so what is the difference?

[cdlittle]

28 minutes ago, Socalfishier said:

Hi, so I fish my swimbaits on a belly weighted weed less hook, and I was wondering when I should choose a swimbait over a swimming worm. Both are weedless, so what is the difference?

 

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[fishingtx]

profile, forge, season, weather, bite. you fish both  of those in very different scenarios, I think?

[PressuredFishing]

57 minutes ago, cdlittle said:

 

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Okay thanks

47 minutes ago, bass4life.... said:

profile, forge, season, weather, bite. you fish both  of those in very different scenarios, I think?

Okay I kinda understand, I wonder if the speed worm would be better for fishing right on the bottom slower as well?

[WRB]

Swim worms come in lots of tail choices from ribbon to vibration tails. Soft plastic swim baits usually have a paddle or boot tail. Both terms need more definition by adding a brand name to identify it. 3:16 Mission Fish defers from Bass Trix hollow body paddle tail or Keitech solid body. Unlimited number of worms to reference.

Tom

[PressuredFishing]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

Swim worms come in lots of tail choices from ribbon to vibration tails. Soft plastic swim baits usually have a paddle or boot tail. Both terms need more definition by adding a brand name to identify it. 3:16 Mission Fish defers from Bass Trix hollow body paddle tail or Keitech solid body. Unlimited number of worms to reference.

Tom

 

Ah okay, well I guess im comparing a zoom  uvibe speed worm compared to a keitech or rage swimmer  rigged weedless

[WRB]

Keitech is a paddle swimmer, Zoom Vib is a cut U tail worm, Rage tail is a fast moving curl tail.

Take your pick, the worms are speed, the swimmer is slower, rig them a verity of methods. 

Tom

[PressuredFishing]

22 minutes ago, WRB said:

Keitech is a paddle swimmer, Zoom Vib is a cut U tail worm, Rage tail is a fast moving curl tail.

Take your pick, the worms are speed, the swimmer is slower, rig them a verity of methods. 

Tom

ah okay this is very helpful, thankyou!!!! I did not know that the worms are faster! thankyou!

[Bluebasser86]

The vibration given off is going to be much different also. There's going to be a much stronger vibration from the tail of a paddle tail swimbait versus that of a swimming tail worm. The Ultra Vibe and Cut'R worm have a little more vibration to them, but a longer profile. 

[bigbassin']

They are fairly interchangeable in my opinion, although the profiles are different as mentioned above.

 

 I tend to throw the swimming worm around vegetation and the swim bait around hard cover. No reason you couldn’t switch that around but it just helps keep it simple for me.

[frogflogger]

speed worm effective buzzed on top

[bagofdonuts]

I usually have both tied on this time of year. the thicker the cover the more likely i am to use a swim jig. the sparser cover gets the speed worm. speed worm makes for a killer follow up bait to a buzzbait.

[WRB]

The issue is where the OP fishes the bass rarely chase down faster moving worms unless the lake has a population of Northern strain LMB, Smallmouth and Spotted Bass. Floridians strain and intergrades are more cautious feeders in SoCal lakes. Slow is more effective a higher % if the time imo.

Tom

 

[PressuredFishing]

On 5/18/2021 at 10:28 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

The vibration given off is going to be much different also. There's going to be a much stronger vibration from the tail of a paddle tail swimbait versus that of a swimming tail worm. The Ultra Vibe and Cut'R worm have a little more vibration to them, but a longer profile. 

okay, so do you think maybe a swimming worm would be better in clear water? or smaller baitfish fishery?

On 5/19/2021 at 3:22 AM, bigbassin' said:

They are fairly interchangeable in my opinion, although the profiles are different as mentioned above.

 

 I tend to throw the swimming worm around vegetation and the swim bait around hard cover. No reason you couldn’t switch that around but it just helps keep it simple for me.

that makes a good amount of sense, when I fish grassy lakes the boot-tail tends to get weeds wraped around it and I could see how a worm would slither through grass better, thankyou for pointing this out I never thought of that!

On 5/19/2021 at 5:12 AM, frogflogger said:

speed worm effective buzzed on top

That is a very interesting idea, I never thought of fishing it as a top water!

On 5/19/2021 at 9:50 AM, WRB said:

The issue is where the OP fishes the bass rarely chase down faster moving worms unless the lake has a population of Northern strain LMB, Smallmouth and Spotted Bass. Floridians strain and intergrades are more cautious feeders in SoCal lakes. Slow is more effective a higher % if the time imo.

Tom

 

 

[Bluebasser86]

I'd go with the small swimbait for an open hook presentation when you need like the 2.8 fat impact style bait. The speed worm is better for working through cover like grass with a texposed hook. If they want a bigger, baitfish profile you can step up to the larger 4.8 fat impact or something similar. 

[CrankFate]

Hard to say. Try both see what works better. But if you don’t know, get both and cast them into clear water to see what they do. Move them around, let them sink, vary the speed. See what they do. Then fish them.

[Bird]

11 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

Hard to say. Try both see what works better. But if you don’t know, get both and cast them into clear water to see what they do. Move them around, let them sink, vary the speed. See what they do. Then fish them.

Exactly what I do.

Look at the action and see what they do so you know what the presentation looks like. 

 

 

[PressuredFishing]

16 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I'd go with the small swimbait for an open hook presentation when you need like the 2.8 fat impact style bait. The speed worm is better for working through cover like grass with a texposed hook. If they want a bigger, baitfish profile you can step up to the larger 4.8 fat impact or something similar. 

okay this is very good to know, thankyou!

16 hours ago, Bird said:

Exactly what I do.

Look at the action and see what they do so you know what the presentation looks like. !

okay I will try this

[Biglittle8]

16 hours ago, Bird said:

Exactly what I do.

Look at the action and see what they do so you know what the presentation looks like

☝️This will really help in my humble opinion. You can present a bait a lot of different ways depending on the conditions your fishing. 

[papajoe222]

The big difference is the belly weighted hook on a paddle tail swimbait will allow it to drop in a horizontal position. This avoids a nose down attitude when paused (recommended) vs. using a speed worm which is normally nose hooked. factor in the profile, etc. and you have your answer.

[softwateronly]

23 hours ago, papajoe222 said:

The big difference is the belly weighted hook on a paddle tail swimbait will allow it to drop in a horizontal position. This avoids a nose down attitude when paused (recommended) vs. using a speed worm which is normally nose hooked. factor in the profile, etc. and you have your answer.

Taken the other way, the swimming worm can be dropped into holes a little easier with the nose down approach.

 

scott

[txchaser]

I fished a swim senko more than a senko for a good while, because it was more versatile, and then I just stopped. This thread is a good reminder to go back, especially as the weeds are piling up now.