Are these stocking foot waders, and do they come with the neoprene booties or do I have to buy them separately?

[OkobojiEagle]

I'm exhausted and all I did was read this thread...

 

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[Ohioguy25]

7 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Gators, aka gaiters, aka gravel guards. And before you ask, no these aren’t booties!!!! Sorry I couldn’t resist 

Last question. Do these look any better than what I ordered? 
 

https://www.amazon.com/COMPASS-Deadfall-Breathable-Chest-Wader/dp/B01M9GB7XF

[PhishLI]

6 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Last question. Do these look any better than what I ordered?

Are you being chased by wolves as you read the replies we've given you? As I've said in my previous post, the waders you bought have gravel guards already. You don't need add-ons. Regardless, neither will stop junk from getting into a walking shoe unless you put your waders on before you go to sleep, fill them with silicone, slip into them, and let them dry overnight while you sleep. But don't do that, because it's nutz. The shoes will fall apart from the submerged wet/dry cycles anyway. Get the $59 Field & Stream wading boots, then buy some $25 sports gel insoles for them. There's one made for your issues. Slow down, take a breath, and research it.

[Ohioguy25]

38 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

Are you being chased by wolves as you read the replies we've given you? As I've said in my previous post, the waders you bought have gravel guards already. You don't need add-ons. Regardless, neither will stop junk from getting into a walking shoe unless you put your waders on before you go to sleep, fill them with silicone, slip into them, and let them dry overnight while you sleep. But don't do that, because it's nutz. The shoes will fall apart from the submerged wet/dry cycles anyway. Get the $59 Field & Stream wading boots, then buy some $25 sports gel insoles for them. There's one made for your issues. Slow down, take a breath, and research it.

I don’t think you get it. I had a pretty nasty injury, I had a stress reaction in my heel (one step down from a full cortical fracture) and no custom insole will cushion this. It’s “healed” but will be painful for quite some time. I’m pretty much locked in to these max cushion shoes. Its the sole, not the insole, that matters.  Do they make any waterproof shoes with thick soles? If so I’ll buy them. Otherwise I’m unfortunately stuck with these. When you say fall apart are we talking weeks, months? I was told I could get a season out of them.

[throttleplate]

55 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

I don’t think you get it. I had a pretty nasty injury, I had a stress reaction in my heel (one step down from a full cortical fracture) and no custom insole will cushion this. It’s “healed” but will be painful for quite some time. I’m pretty much locked in to these max cushion shoes. Its the sole, not the insole, that matters.  Do they make any waterproof shoes with thick soles? If so I’ll buy them. Otherwise I’m unfortunately stuck with these. When you say fall apart are we talking weeks, months? I was told I could get a season out of them.

 

I wade religiously, i have been wading in the cold lake waters of minnesota for the last 3 weeks and all i have are cheap frogg togg pvc waders.

 

What i want to stress the most to you is that walking in the lake or river you will get your feet stuck in muck, mud, decomposed weeds and when you do you will struggle and possibly fall down wretching your ankle, foot, leg, knee, back.....you will slip on a rock, sumerged tree limb, tree...you will get your feet tangled up in lilly pads, old tires and maybe even a decomposed body.

 

Last saturday i waded the shoreline where no man dare goes, this area about 400 yards long is a landmine of stumps, fallen trees, decomposed rotting trees that collect dead washed up weeds that go to rest below the tree caught by the submerged branches.

 

I crawled over the fallen trees, i waded through the branches and between the big limbs and then i got stuck. My right leg got sucked into a mushy hole and i was up to my nipples in water, i grabbed some branches, they broke off. 

 

Now i had to let the rod get submerged and then grabbed onto some bigger limbs and try to pull my body up and while doing this my stuck foot was taking lots of pressure from trying to get unstuck as the suction was incredible. I had to twist my body to try to get my leg and foot to break the suction and i finally succedded.

 

I then proceded to hold onto the fallen tree that led me to the shoreline and made a decision that cost me some repairs to my waders. Instead of walking through the water over the fallen timber again i decided to walk up the steep bank through the prickly needlepoint shrubs and trees to get back to my starting point.

 

My waders are now leaking and i had to find the tiny holes and order some 3m product to make repairs when it arrives. Here is a youtube on the product i will be using to repair my waders which you may need to do in the future to your waders.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ajschn06]

11 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Are you being chased by wolves as you read the replies we've given you? As I've said in my previous post, the waders you bought have gravel guards already. You don't need add-ons. Regardless, neither will stop junk from getting into a walking shoe unless you put your waders on before you go to sleep, fill them with silicone, slip into them, and let them dry overnight while you sleep. But don't do that, because it's nutz. The shoes will fall apart from the submerged wet/dry cycles anyway. Get the $59 Field & Stream wading boots, then buy some $25 sports gel insoles for them. There's one made for your issues. Slow down, take a breath, and research it.

This thread screams bassfisher0517

[Ohioguy25]

4 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

This thread screams bassfisher0517

What exactly is wrong with this thread? Why bash a novice fisherman trying to get into and learn about the hobby?

[ajschn06]

5 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

What exactly is wrong with this thread? Why bash a novice fisherman trying to get into and learn about the hobby?

No bashing, just really specific questions...

[Ohioguy25]

2 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

No bashing, just really specific questions...

Yes I have an unusual situation lol

[PhishLI]

2 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Why bash a novice fisherman trying to get into and learn about the hobby?

Nobody has bashed you. Not even close. Matter of fact, several members here have taken the time to thoroughly explain things to you, but you seem to either ignore specifics, or not absorb them at all. Actually, that's a bit rude, whether you mean to be or not, and I don't believe you do. So slow down, take in what you've read, and respond in kind if you don't appreciate a bit of snark.

 

 

[PhishLI]

16 hours ago, throttleplate said:

i decided to walk up the steep bank through the prickly needlepoint shrubs and trees to get back to my starting point.

 

My waders are now leaking

I always carry a pair of Fiskars pruning shears with me and cut my way through the sticker bushes and vines. I haven't gotten a hole from one yet.

[J Francho]

Look at the "Customers that bought this also bought these.." list in the link to the waders you bought.  It's full of wading boots.  I prefer felt with stainless studs for most water here.  In freezing temps, felt is terrible, and I switch to rubber with studs.  It looks like those waders have built in gravel guards, basically a sleeve the fits over the boot.  They also come with a wading belt.  Use it and cinch it tight.  It will save your life.  

[fin]

A float tube might be better suited for you - get you off your feet so you can get some real wading boots.

 

Just because someone said you'd get a season out of those shoes, I wouldn't bet $100 on it. I like New Balance, but that's actually the brand I've had trouble with coming un-glued.

 

 

[throttleplate]

 

4 hours ago, PhishLI said:

I always carry a pair of Fiskars pruning shears with me and cut my way through the sticker bushes and vines. I haven't gotten a hole from one yet.

it would have taken me 4 hours to cut out a path with pruning shears. I needed one of these, all purpose machette. If you live in the philippines its the most universal tool around, used for popping beer bottle caps off to attacking your cheating husband with.

 

[Ohioguy25]

3 hours ago, fin said:

A float tube might be better suited for you - get you off your feet so you can get some real wading boots.

 

Just because someone said you'd get a season out of those shoes, I wouldn't bet $100 on it. I like New Balance, but that's actually the brand I've had trouble with coming un-glued.

 

 

Yeah I’ve submerged them several times already, probably close to a dozen honestly. Still going strong, Is that a good test run? I can use silicone glue if/when they do become unglued.

7 hours ago, J Francho said:

Look at the "Customers that bought this also bought these.." list in the link to the waders you bought.  It's full of wading boots.  I prefer felt with stainless studs for most water here.  In freezing temps, felt is terrible, and I switch to rubber with studs.  It looks like those waders have built in gravel guards, basically a sleeve the fits over the boot.  They also come with a wading belt.  Use it and cinch it tight.  It will save your life.  

 

8 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Nobody has bashed you. Not even close. Matter of fact, several members here have taken the time to thoroughly explain things to you, but you seem to either ignore specifics, or not absorb them at all. Actually, that's a bit rude, whether you mean to be or not, and I don't believe you do. So slow down, take in what you've read, and respond in kind if you don't appreciate a bit of snark.

 

 

Sorry didn’t mean to get defensive, I appreciate all of the help here. 
 

I just sort of have to make a go of these shoes, that’s the only point of contention that unfortunately I really can’t budge on at the moment. They are the only thing allowing me to comfortably walk all day. My injury is healed but I have lots of residual discomfort from decompensating for so long.

[J Francho]

When it isn't totally freezing out, I wear sandals.  Keen Newport H2O work okay.  This is mostly in spring when I kayak and wade fish.  Just be aware you have almost no traction or ankle support.

[Ohioguy25]

10 hours ago, J Francho said:

When it isn't totally freezing out, I wear sandals.  Keen Newport H2O work okay.  This is mostly in spring when I kayak and wade fish.  Just be aware you have almost no traction or ankle support.

Yeah that’s traditionally that’s what I’ve done when I kayak too. Might have to adjust that regimen with my current condition, maybe some more supportive water shoes or just these max cushion ones I plan to wade with.