Super User Darth-Baiter Posted April 26, 2021 Super User Posted April 26, 2021 I need/want one more spinning setup. Thinking of the Dobyns Fury 702 for the rod. Second bass finesse rod mostly. Maybe a “hiking next to the Russian River casting to Pike Minnow” setup as well. ive always wanted to try that reel. I suppose I could find a gently used one right? thoughts? Quote
mrpao Posted April 26, 2021 Posted April 26, 2021 You can still find them used. Or just get the Vanford. Same as stradic CI4+, only slightly better. Or daiwa Tatula or Ballistic LT. Both great reels also. 4 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted April 27, 2021 Super User Posted April 27, 2021 As @mrpao stated, the Stradic CI4+ from the last Shimano series is now the '20 Vanford. Longer spool stroke, stiffer spindle to go with it, larger fine-toothed gears, and especially the Stella over-designed roller-bearing clutch. If you google, you may still find OS out there. 2 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted April 27, 2021 Author Super User Posted April 27, 2021 Thanks you two. (I think :)) I had a mental line of $200, but whatever. Looks like a great option. The Vanford. Quote
RDB Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 It’s an excellent reel. I have 2 Vanford’s along with multiple that are quite a bit more expensive and from a performance standpoint, I am just as satisfied with the Vanford. In case it matters, 95% of my fishing is largemouth. 3 Quote
Goby Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Ahh Pike Minnows! Used to catch the heck out of those on the Eel River while steelhead fishing. I sure do miss the Redwoods, happy to be back here in Michigan, but the couple years I spent living in Humboldt were an amazing time in my life. I have a Vanford reel which replaced the CI4, best spinning reel I have ever owned. You could probably find someone selling a CI4 used in good shape if you looked in the classifieds or ebay. Quote
TBAG Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Yeah, to echo what others have said. I have a few Stradic Ci4+ and they're great reels. But I'd go ahead and get a new Vanford if you can swing it. 1 Quote
haggard Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 I didn't realize the CI4+ 2500 was discontinued. I love mine so much I was thinking of getting another but apparently not so much anymore! It's my go-to for light bass techniques on a 6'6 ML/XF rod. Highly recommended, if you can find one. Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted April 27, 2021 Super User Posted April 27, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 6:42 AM, bulldog1935 said: the parts interchange The JDM Vanquish is the one I can tell the difference, because it's so low inertia. But unless you have the Vanquish and Stradic side-by-side, you won't notice that difference. The Stella, Vanquish and Twin Power are all bench-finished in Japan, with parts matching for extra smoothness - the other reels in the series come from the Malaysia line. all reels in the series are based on the Stella over-designed roller-bearing clutch, large, fine-toothed gearing, and long-stroke worm drive. The Stella is magnesium body and rotor, with stainless steel drive and many titanium parts. The Vanquish is magnesium body, CI4+ rotor, alloy drive, many titanium parts. The Twin Power is aluminum body and rotor with alloy drive. The Vanford is CI4+ body and rotor. The Stradic is aluminum body and CI4+ rotor. When it was introduced, Tackle Advisors dubbed the Stradic FL, "The Best $400 Reel You Can Buy" - and it's a $200 reel. Between Stradic and Vanford, it's a choice between aluminum body and lighter composite plastic body, silver finish and black finish. Shimano spinning reels not in this series have fans - I'm not among them. For less money and tough durability, I would go for Tica or Daiwa, though Shimano out-smooths all others into the price basement. The Stradic CI4+ was a '16 introduction, based on the '15 Stradic. If you go back in Shimano catalogs, they don't support parts much longer than this. This catalog is already 2 years old They're now working off the '18 Stella - the CI4+ wasn't discontinued as much as it was renamed, Vanford. CI4+ is their tradename for the composite plastic formulation they've used since 2012. Quote
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