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What are you guys using for rod hook keepers for dual or 3 hook lures to avoid scratching the rod? Multiple keepers?

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If it's a treble lure - I hook it to the first guide - that keeps it far enough away from the rod-blank to prevent scratching.

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Hook the rear one to reel, let the front (or middle and front) grab the line, then give the line a twist around the rod once to make it snug.  Very rare that the hooks ever contact the rod this way.  

 

I do this so the hooks are less likely to grab stuff in the rod locker, not prevent scratches...But it works well for both.  

 

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6 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

If it's a treble lure - I hook it to the first guide - that keeps it far enough away from the rod-blank to prevent scratching.

Wouldn’t want that either besides the fact that they’re micro guides. 

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18 hours ago, wca said:

Wouldn’t want that either besides the fact that they’re micro guides. 

Then this...https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tactical_View_Lure_Covers/descpage-DLCZ.html, or any other lure wrap

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18 hours ago, Logan S said:

Hook the rear one to reel, let the front (or middle and front) grab the line, then give the line a twist around the rod once to make it snug.  Very rare that the hooks ever contact the rod this way.  

 

I do this so the hooks are less likely to grab stuff in the rod locker, not prevent scratches...But it works well for both.  

 

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This is what I’m doing now but don’t want to scratch the reel either (at the contact point). I just can’t live with the fact that my gear could get damaged without some other alternative. 

18 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

This would be my last choice. Just too “bulky” for my liking. I’d prefer 2 keepers. 

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1 minute ago, wca said:

This is what I’m doing now but don’t want to scratch the reel either (at the contact point). I just can’t live with the fact that my gear could get damaged without some other alternative. 

The Fuji hook keepers that you put on with o-ring/band hold the bait out a bit further than on-the-rod keepers...Might try those.  I use them on my spinning rods and they work about the same way as hooking to a casting reel.  

 

The reel is really the easiest place to hook trebles though ;).  

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4 minutes ago, wca said:

This would be my last choice. Just too “bulky” for my liking. I’d prefer 2 keepers. 

Problem is - if you add a Fuji for the second keeper - you're going to be constantly adjusting it as different lures have different distances between hooks...and if you get a 3-treble lure, that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

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17 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Problem is - if you add a Fuji for the second keeper - you're going to be constantly adjusting it as different lures have different distances between hooks...and if you get a 3-treble lure, that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

Which is why I brought up the topic. Thanks for your input. 

21 minutes ago, Logan S said:

The Fuji hook keepers that you put on with o-ring/band hold the bait out a bit further than on-the-rod keepers...Might try those.  I use them on my spinning rods and they work about the same way as hooking to a casting reel.  

 

The reel is really the easiest place to hook trebles though ;).  

Just picked up some. Hopefully they’ll be just far enough away from scratching. Thank you. 

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On spinning reels, what the Japanese call a reel stand makes the ultimate hook keeper.  

This one is made by Tsubaki, and quite inexpensive - the plug is 6" offshore topwater with heavy wire 1/0 trebles.  

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It also keeps your line from getting twisted and braided in the guides.  

Inshore, with a baitcaster, I'm mostly fishing swimbait hooks for weedless, and the rod hook keepers work fine.  

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5 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

On spinning tackle, what the Japanese call a reel stand makes the ultimate hook keeper.  

This one is made by Tsubaki, and quite inexpensive - the plug is 6" offshore topwater with heavy wire 1/0 trebles.  

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It also keeps your line from getting twisted and braided in the guides.  

Inshore, with a baitcaster, I'm mostly fishing swimbait hooks for weedless, and the rod hook keepers work fine.  

This looks cool but I don’t fish trebles with my spinning gear. How would this work for baitcasters

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they're made to replace the handle cap on spinning reels, can't imagine rigging anything quite like it on a baitcaster.  

 

The pop-out hook keeper designed into some baitcaster frames will give you a functioning hooker if your rod doesn't have one, but they're too close to the rod to help with trebles like the spinning reel add-ons.  

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Being a dyed in the wool jig angler with pork trailers I learn a long time ago to use “pig blankets” now called lure wraps.

Wrap the treble hook lure after hanging it on your standard hook hanger. The wrap prevents damage to the rod, reel and line nicks. 

Tom

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Here's my big change I made over the winter, removing the split rings from almost all my hard baits and switching to small snaps in their place. I no longer store rods with treble hooked bait to or from the lake, I just remove them and put the snap on the hook keeper. I wish I'd done it a long time ago.

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46 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Here's my big change I made over the winter, removing the split rings from almost all my hard baits and switching to small snaps in their place. I no longer store rods with treble hooked bait to or from the lake, I just remove them and put the snap on the hook keeper. I wish I'd done it a long time ago.

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Have you noticed a difference in the action with the snap vs line tied straight to the ring?

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7 minutes ago, wca said:

Have you noticed a difference in the action with the snap vs line tied straight to the ring?

Nope, they're very small snaps. If anything, they allow more freedom of movement than the rings. I'm 100% certain I've caught fish this year that I wouldn't have caught otherwise because I can change baits quickly. The second time I caught the fish over 7lbs this January was on a deeper running crank that I only switched to for one short stretch of bank where it drops off a bit more than the rest. Since I had the snap, I already had the bait out in preparation for it and switched it out just to make a few cast on that bank and it got me that fish. Normally, I just rig up a shallow runner and leave it on because I'd have to cut and tie on a new bait just to make 10 cast with it and switch back. 

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46 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Nope, they're very small snaps. If anything, they allow more freedom of movement than the rings. I'm 100% certain I've caught fish this year that I wouldn't have caught otherwise because I can change baits quickly. The second time I caught the fish over 7lbs this January was on a deeper running crank that I only switched to for one short stretch of bank where it drops off a bit more than the rest. Since I had the snap, I already had the bait out in preparation for it and switched it out just to make a few cast on that bank and it got me that fish. Normally, I just rig up a shallow runner and leave it on because I'd have to cut and tie on a new bait just to make 10 cast with it and switch back. 

Interesting. I would have thought otherwise. This might be the best solution and the fact that changing different lures without having to retie is a win win. Thanks. 

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8 hours ago, Logan S said:

Hook the rear one to reel, let the front (or middle and front) grab the line, then give the line a twist around the rod once to make it snug.  Very rare that the hooks ever contact the rod this way.  

 

I do this so the hooks are less likely to grab stuff in the rod locker, not prevent scratches...But it works well for both.  

 

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This^

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10 hours ago, Logan S said:

Hook the rear one to reel, let the front (or middle and front) grab the line, then give the line a twist around the rod once to make it snug.  Very rare that the hooks ever contact the rod this way.  

 

I do this so the hooks are less likely to grab stuff in the rod locker, not prevent scratches...But it works well for both.  

 

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Nice popper, I see you are having trouble with it getting scratched in fish's mouths... :)  minus 3 room rater points for the loop knot though...

4 hours ago, wca said:

Interesting. I would have thought otherwise. This might be the best solution and the fact that changing different lures without having to retie is a win win. Thanks. 

Why, functionally, it's no different than an oval split ring. I don't usually use them, because I size my treble hooks so I can bend them out if they get hung, and I don't want to add a weak point, which small snaps can be, and I can tie a uni almost as fast as I can undo and do a snap. I've also not noticed any difference when using a snap on a split ring in any but the smallest lures.

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2 hours ago, BassWhole! said:

Nice popper, I see you are having trouble with it getting scratched in fish's mouths... :)  minus 3 room rater points for the loop knot though..

Loops = Bloops :D

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14 hours ago, wca said:

What are you guys using for rod hook keepers for dual or 3 hook lures to avoid scratching the rod? Multiple keepers?

A bait wrap or cut it off.

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