Flipping with copolymer?

[Swamp Rat]

Ok, I am a braid guy, in South Florida where heavy cover is king. For punching I obviously will continue to use braid, but was considering switching for other flipping purposes, such as light vegetation, docks, rocks, wood, etc. I know a lot will say go flourocarbon, but was thinking about copoly as I have a lot of luck with it for other purposes, so...opinions?

[Deplorable Fisherman]

While I've been back and forth with fluoro on that application, I still keep Trilene XL spooled up just as I have for a very long time. If it isn't broke, don't fix it as they say. 

[Teal]

I've been using yozuri. for several months now on a few spinning rods and on a casting rod.  I think it's fine around cover.  Hell, mono, was king for a long time and people still fished the same areas.  Just go up in size if needed.   Yozuri hybrid, is.good stuff.  Size matters more than line type in your case.  

[Swamp Rat]

I actually use Yozuri Hybrid and PLine for reaction baits, and have a spool of 20lb Yozuri that I was thinking on one of my 7'6" MH flipping sticks. 

[WRB]

All Dee Thomss used was 30Lb  Maxima CoPloy line to flip with and very popular with the big swimbaits.

Tom

 

[Mike L]

I used Yo Zuri Hybrid for years.
That stuff is bulletproof, consistent and cheap. You really can’t go wrong with it. Their line rating is off a bit tho, 

(12# breaks at 19#) 

However, personally I went back to 20# Shooter for what you describe. 

 

 

 

 

Mike
 

[FishinBuck07]

If I am fishing heavy vegetation then it will always be braid, cuts through the grass and stuff better.  If around wood I am usually using fluoro.  Just my personal preference!

[Bankc]

I'd go with fluorocarbon, myself.  Mainly for the increased abrasion resistance and slack line sensitivity, which would be important for flipping.  I use Yo-Zuri for my shallow cranking stick, mainly because it handles memory better than straight fluoro, which was always a problem for me on that rod.  With flipping, however, that won't really be an issue.  And while I don't use the Yo-Zuri for flipping, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work as well as or better than braid or mono.  

[Deleted account]

Flipping or pitching? I flip with 25 lb Ande (sometime 30). I pitch with 20 BG or AN40.

[Bluebasser86]

I used Pline for pitching for years and caught a ton of fish with it. 

[Catt]

Casting, flipping, & pitching in light to moderate cover...15# Big Game.

[dodgeguy]

Sufix Advance colpoly/ mono. Lower stretch than mono or flouro better casting better abrasion resistance.

[Choporoz]

20 hours ago, Mike L said:

I used Yo Zuri Hybrid for years.
That stuff is bulletproof, consistent and cheap. You really can’t go wrong with it. Their line rating is off a bit tho, 

(12# breaks at 19#) 

However, personally I went back to 20# Shooter for what you describe. 

 

 

 

 

Mike
 

+1

Used YZH for years for everything.  I still use it on some moving bait rods. I now use Invisx and braid for pitching and flipping, but I wouldn't be too upset if I had to use YZH for flipping.   I feel that I have a little better sensitivity with fluoro,  but that could be in my head.

[J Francho]

For actual flipping (not pitching) I prefer a sturdy single filament line.  When flipping with braid, I look for a large diameter braid with a softer texture.  It's a little easier on the fingers, which are messed up enough without braid slices.

[basser27]

15lb big game is what I use 

[Big Swimbait]

I have to tell a story to tell another story. A few years ago I was at a Forrest Wood Cup event. I sat in on a seminar given by Jimmy Houston (prayers for Chris). After the seminar Jimmy had to get to one of the booths he was working so I walked beside him and asked about his line choice. Now I knew he was sponsored by HI SEAS but he said if you don't try any other line, try Grand Slam Select co-poly. So I made myself to the HI SEAS booth I had seen earlier. I could have bought 5 spools of every other line they offered but no Grand Slam Select - sold out at 11:00AM on the 1st day.

 

So when I got back home, I ordered up a couple of spools in 15# and 20#. In the first club tournament  I fished after spooling up the 15# we were on a spinnerbait bite and were doing well. The line was flawless. By partner was running the front so in the back I bombed a cast to an overhanging tree I had missed earlier. Right in the tree. I made the mistake of tugging on it and watched my bait make about 3 wraps. At the same time, the trolling motor crapped out. My partner said he was going to work on it and to just break my line. We will go back later for the bait. So as hard as I tried, I couldn't break it and just pulled that Ranger all the way to the tree. Bait retrieved and line choice made forever. I use  a different line for my really big swimbaits but Grand Slam Select for 20# and less.

[RichF]

I've also been looking for a good copolymer line to pitch jigs with around hard cover.  Mainly just looking for a cheaper alternative to fluoro.  I've tried YHB and am not a fan at all.  I've found it to have zero abrasion resistance.  I burned through 600 yds of 12lb real quick because it couldn't handle cranking around rock.  The 15lb wasn't much better.  I tried Pline cxx too.  Seemed better with the abrasion resistance but wasn't the most manageable.  I might give the Sufix Advance and Hi Seas a try as suggested here.  Anyone use McCoy Mean Green??

[plawren53202]

Flipped shallow wood last Saturday at Kentucky Lake on my new flipping/pitching combo, including 20# Pline. No issues at all, and I had no problem feeling bumps and thumps on the Pline. It will stay on there for me.

[J Francho]

13 minutes ago, RichF said:

I tried Pline cxx too.  Seemed better with the abrasion resistance but wasn't the most manageable.

Suck it up and deal with it, use KVD L&L.  There's really no tougher line in rocks and zebes.

[RichF]

7 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Suck it up and deal with it, use KVD L&L.  There's really no tougher line in rocks and zebes.

Fair enough, lol.  To be honest, I don't know if I even tried pitching with it.  I was chuckin moving baits with it.  Definitely strong stuff.  

[FryDog62]

In moderate cover I have stuck with braid but tied on a YZH 12 lb leader at times. As stated above, Yo-Zuri reports closer to 19 lb breaking strength.  Seems to work okay for me... I find it very abrasion resistant and great knot strength..

[ironbjorn]

The only problem I've ever had F/P with copolymer/YZH is looking at the fish I caught and knowing I did it wrong according to the books and internet

[J Francho]

Not according to any book written before 1995.  The flippers and pitchers were still using mono.  It's mostly an internet thing when braid caught for this.  Braid is so over engineered - 12# diameter/50# strength - the advice to switch is seldom bad.  BUT, braid is not the only way, as you've found.