CrankFate Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 So I’m sitting here waiting for a new setup and for fishing to become worthwhile weatherwise. And as I read through posts and people’s opinions, I come to this question: Do you think it’s better to reduce the weight of your setup by getting a lighter reel or a lighter rod? Or is all weight the same, so it doesn’t matter? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 9, 2021 Super User Posted April 9, 2021 It should feel good in your hands while fishing regardless of weight listed on the labels. 6 Quote
Big Hands Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Balance is important for me. Fishing with a tip heavy combo is less than satisfying to me. Lightweight and balanced is sublime. If I had to choose, balance is more important than lightweight. 12 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted April 9, 2021 Global Moderator Posted April 9, 2021 I never worry about it but One exception that comes to mind: I do like having the lightest spinning combo possible when fishing trout streams in the smokies, but that’s mostly because the fish are generally tiny. In these cases, I like the rod to be light and bendy, and of course hanging a heavy reel on that would be awkward. If you’re going to go light, I would say make both the rod and reel match/compatible 1 Quote
garroyo130 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 If it must be unbalanced I'll take light rod/heavy reel over heavy rod/light reel 100% of the time 7 Quote
Deplorable Fisherman Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Even the lightest rods can feel tip heavy at times, so it really comes down to balance. Let's face it, if a couple of ounces is going to break you, you've got some issues to iron out. If a rod is a bit tip heavy, I would probably pair it with a slightly heavier reel to balance it out. 3 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 9, 2021 Super User Posted April 9, 2021 Balance is number 1. Then a light reel and a light rod at the same time. I used to use balance weights on my rods but once I got a light rod that was balanced that went out the window 2 Quote
RDB Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Deplorable Fisherman said: Let's face it, if a couple of ounces is going to break you, you've got some issues to iron out. I’m one of those who has issues to iron out ?...I have become a weight junkie. And if I had to choose 1, give me a light rod over a light reel. Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Its nice to have light weight gear, but what really matters is felt weight. You want the balancing point to be where you grip your rod. 1 Quote
RDB Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said: Its nice to have light weight gear, but what really matters is felt weight. You want the balancing point to be where you grip your rod. Trust me, the felt weight on a 3 1/2 oz rod is pretty low ?. 1 Quote
GReb Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Lighter weight will make a difference when you’re chunking and winding for 10 hours. 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RDB said: Trust me, the felt weight on a 3 1/2 oz rod is pretty low ?. I didnt think you good ole boys used fairy wands Quote
Dumbbassanglr Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Rod weight is obviously more important since your grabbing the reel, the weight that you really notice is mostly the result of rod. That being said the weight itself of the rod is not the only factor, balance makes a difference. I currently have a 7’3” Zodias that feels lighter than a 7’3” nrx i had and it’s because the weight of the butt section balances out the tip better. There are other factors but your best bet is to take your reel to a store and put it on a few different rods to see what feels good to you. 1 Quote
Linewinder Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 9 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said: Its nice to have light weight gear, but what really matters is felt weight. You want the balancing point to be where you grip your rod. Spinning, yes, that I can do. Baitcast, I've never understood how to do that -- I grip the rod at the reel. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted April 10, 2021 Super User Posted April 10, 2021 Give me brass gears, metal bodies, and sideplates (except in the middle of winter for the last one) and weight of the reel be darned. I'm thinking of getting the patent on helium infused grease and oil (optimized to individual gear ratios of course ), ya'll will buy anything... 1 Quote
RDB Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 10 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said: I didnt think you good ole boys used fairy wands Lol...nah I’m talking baitcasters. Quote
CrankFate Posted April 10, 2021 Author Posted April 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: Give me brass gears, metal bodies, and sideplates (except in the middle of winter for the last one) and weight of the reel be darned. I'm thinking of getting the patent on helium infused grease and oil (optimized to individual gear ratios of course ), ya'll will buy anything... I know. Lots of guys want that “solid” gear. Use it if you like it. I’ll pass on that because solid usually means heavy. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted April 10, 2021 Super User Posted April 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, CrankFate said: I know. Lots of guys want that “solid” gear. Use it if you like it. I’ll pass on that because solid usually means heavy. My Calais 200 is doing the talk to the hand thing... Quote
CrankFate Posted April 10, 2021 Author Posted April 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BassWhole! said: My Calais 200 is doing the talk to the hand thing... I don’t use a reel that solid unless I’m likely to catch something over 25lbs. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted April 10, 2021 Super User Posted April 10, 2021 I consider weight of my combo when fishing specific techniques and as long as I feel comfortable when palming both reel and rod. Balancing point is varied mostly on the tip of my index finger both casting and spinning. 1 hour ago, CrankFate said: I know. Lots of guys want that “solid” gear. Use it if you like it. I’ll pass on that because solid usually means heavy. I don’t mind draging hopping Jig with Bantam MGL and Zodias High rod for day. That reel alone when more than some of my setups, btw. Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 10, 2021 Super User Posted April 10, 2021 Maybe some enterprising anglers will list their rod weights instead of saying it feels light weight. 3 custom ALX 5 & power JWR, 6’10” wt”3.8 oz ( 9 yrs). MC Iovino 6’8” MF Splash-It rod wt 3.7 oz (3 yrs). SC spinning Victory VS610MLXF, 6’10” wt 3.3 oz. (new). Rod should be 1/2 the weight of the reel to feel light and balanced. Tom 1 Quote
RDB Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 2 hours ago, WRB said: Maybe some enterprising anglers will list their rod weights instead of saying it feels light weight. 3 custom ALX 5 & power JWR, 6’10” wt”3.8 oz ( 9 yrs). MC Iovino 6’8” MF Splash-It rod wt 3.7 oz (3 yrs). SC spinning Victory VS610MLXF, 6’10” wt 3.3 oz. (new). Rod should be 1/2 the weight of the reel to feel light and balanced. Tom I haven’t weighed my lighter rods in some time but I can ballpark. Baitcasters - Conquest 842 - mid 3’s - Z-Bone 3 & 5 power - mid to upper 3’s - NRX 893 - low 4’s Spinning - NRX DSR & 852 - mid 3’s - Avid X ML/XF - mid 3’s - Z-Bone 2 Power - mid 3’s I don’t have anything as low as your Victory. Quote
Johnbt Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 "I didnt think you good ole boys used fairy wands" I know what a real good ole boy is, but what the heck is a fairy wand? Sounds like some kind of silly insult. I love all of my Conquest rods because they're featherweight, sensitive and strong as heck, but I'm still big enough to fish my 10-, 11- and 12-foot surf rods with one hand even at my advanced age. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted April 10, 2021 Super User Posted April 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Johnbt said: I know what a real good ole boy is, but what the heck is a fairy wand? Sounds like some kind of silly insult. Fairy Wand = derogatory term for spinning gear. Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 11, 2021 Super User Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Johnbt said: "I didnt think you good ole boys used fairy wands" I know what a real good ole boy is, but what the heck is a fairy wand? Sounds like some kind of silly insult. I love all of my Conquest rods because they're featherweight, sensitive and strong as heck, but I'm still big enough to fish my 10-, 11- and 12-foot surf rods with one hand even at my advanced age. Guesstimates are just that ...guesses. Nice to know what the rods actually weigh. Tom Quote
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