Would 17 pound mono work on this reel in a size 2500?

[Fisher0517]

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/shimano-sienna-fg-spinning-reel-20shmusnn500fgclmree/20shmusnn500fgclmree If not what line is better and would this reel work for Bass. Also what size would you get?

[MN Fisher]

1: Most I've ever put on a spinning reel is 10# Yo-Zuri and that was a 3000 size.

2: I'd get the 2500 reel and put 8# on it for general use

3: The 1000 size with 4# or 6# would be a good finesse reel

4: The 500 size is a trout/panfish reel - too small for bass

5: The 4000 size would be a northern/muskie reel - too unwieldy for bass

 

[Fisher0517]

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

1: Most I've ever put on a spinning reel is 10# Yo-Zuri and that was a 3000 size.

2: I'd get the 2500 reel and put 8# on it for general use

3: The 1000 size with 4# or 6# would be a good finesse reel

4: The 500 size is a trout/panfish reel - too small for bass

5: The 4000 size would be a northern/muskie reel - too unwieldy for bass

 

So if I get the 250. I can put 8 pound mono? Is mono a good line to use on it or braid is better?

[BrianMDTX]

2500 I use 6 or 8 lb. mono or YZH. 2000 I use 6. 10 to 12 on baitcasters. 

2 minutes ago, BassFisher517 said:

So if I get the 250. I can put 8 pound mono? Is mono a good line to use on it or braid is better?

Yep. I use Berkley XL. 

[MN Fisher]

4 minutes ago, BassFisher517 said:

So if I get the 250. I can put 8 pound mono? Is mono a good line to use on it or braid is better?

 

2 minutes ago, BrianMDTX said:

2500 I use 6 or 8 lb. mono or YZH. 2000 I use 6. 10 to 12 on baitcasters. 

Yep. I use Berkley XL. 

There's a number of good mono lines out there - Berkley Trilene XL or Sufix Elite are both good and reasonably priced.

 

I would not use braid on that reel.

[Boomstick]

I would say 10# max on a 2500 reel and I would only use 10# on a reel with larger diameter spool like the Daiwa BG. I would use 8# on the Sienna. Typically people will use a 5000 size reel for 17# and that would be more applicable to offshore fishing than bass.

 

I personally use braid on spinning reels. You could get away with 20# or 30# which would give you something stronger if that's what you are after.

I could be of more assistance if you told me what you were looking to throw with this reel.

[MN Fisher]

7 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I personally use braid on spinning reels. You could get away with 20# or 30# which would give you something stronger if that's what you are after.

I don't use braid on spinning reels with bushings for the line-roller - which the Sienna FG has. I want a bearing there - which my Avocet RZT's do have.

[Boomstick]

2 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I don't use braid on spinning reels with bushings for the line-roller - which the Sienna FG has. I want a bearing there - which my Avocet RZT's do have.

Good point, I didn't even think of that.

[Fisher0517]

13 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I would say 10# max on a 2500 reel and I would only use 10# on a reel with larger diameter spool like the Daiwa BG. I would use 8# on the Sienna. Typically people will use a 5000 size reel for 17# and that would be more applicable to offshore fishing than bass.

 

I personally use braid on spinning reels. You could get away with 20# or 30# which would give you something stronger if that's what you are after.

I could be of more assistance if you told me what you were looking to throw with this reel.

Soft plastics, a few hardbaits, and if it would work maybe a bobber once in a while 

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, BassFisher517 said:

Soft plastics, a few hardbaits, and if it would work maybe a bobber once in a while 

8# on a 2500 reel - here's what I'd use it for it was my only rig

Finesse techniques - Ned, Drop-shot, Wacky

Plastics - Weightless worms/flukes, light T-Rigs (up to 1/4oz weight)

Hardbaits - Light cranks, jerks, spinnerbaits to 1/4oz (plus trailer)

Bobber fishing - Definitely suited for that...even slip-bobber with small jigs and plastics under for crappie

 

For all that - I'd go with a medium power rod; fast or moderate-fast action.

[Boomstick]

10 minutes ago, BassFisher517 said:

Soft plastics, a few hardbaits, and if it would work maybe a bobber once in a while 

I would go no more than 10# mono if you really want to go heavier line, but I think you would be fine with 8# and it will perform better. Pick a line with a thinner diameter like Trilene XL or Maxima Ultragreen. If you go the Sufix route, you could go with Sufix Advance or Elite 6lb and it's nearly as the prior two in 8lb.

[Deleted account]

A really thin and limp 10 lb mono is as high as I would go on a 2500 sized reel, similar 12 is pushing it, and will only work well for larger heavier baits that cast well.

[bulldog1935]

we fish 12-lb fluoro inshore, or go to braid.  

 

 

you might prefer braid on spinning tackle, since it has zero line memory.  

 

The only people I know who fish 17-lb mono are in the surf.  

[MickD]

30 pound braid is too heavy for most spin outfits, IMHO.  Premium braids in 20 are very good, but for most braids, about 15 casts well.  I never use mono or FC on spin any more, all braid.  But when I used mono, about 8 pound was max on reels like that.  

[Big Hands]

I have a few 2500 size reels. All have 10# braid and use leaders of mono or fluorocarbon in #6 or #8. 

 

Braid to leader Pros:

1) Casts well

2) No line twist issues

3) Increased sensitivity

4) Not losing much off the spool just to add a leader, while quite a bit of leader material gets used.

5) Not affected as much by wind  for a specific strength line. 10# mono is much thicker than 10# braid, so it doesn't have as much wind resistance (and I haven't had much issue with 'wind knots')

6) Little to no stretch

Braid to leader Cons:

1) Generally more expensive

2) Not as durable (abrasion resistant) on wood & rocks

3) Tying on leaders takes time and adds knots/complexity to the setup

4) Knots themselves are generally more complex and time consuming

5) Braid to leader connection knots can cause casting issues

6) You need to keep leader material handy

7) Doesn't always play nice with all rods/reels (usually budget offerings that have potential issues IME)

? Little to no stretch

 

Straight Mono Pros:

1) More durable (abrasion resistant) with rocks and wood

2) Easier setup if not using a leader

3) Generally cheaper

4) Better shock absorption than braid

5) Simpler knots can be used effectively

6) Less visible than braid

Straight Mono Cons:

1) Line memory

2) Line twist (on spinning and spincast reels)

3) If you're not adding leaders, you can go through line off of the spool relatively quickly

4) Not as sensitive to feedback from bait as braid

5) Line stretch when setting the hook

 

I've probably missed some things.

 

Name your poison of preference. 

[PhishLI]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

I don't use braid on spinning reels with bushings for the line-roller - which the Sienna FG has. I want a bearing there - which my Avocet RZT's do have.

It's reasonable to assume that there may be an issue with a bushing and not with a bearing, but no problems here. My buddy is a mostly spinner fisherman. His reels all get 30 and 40 lb braid because we fish very tough and snaggy spots.

 

I've been running 30 lb Daiwa J-8 braid on a Daiwa BG 2500 for the past 3 years with zero issues. The line roller runs on a bushing, but like any other line roller I check it often and keep it lubed. I also run 20 lb J  braid on a cheepo ABU card 10(1000 size). Again, a bushing, but no issues. YMMV

[bulldog1935]

That bushing will be a standard size that you can upgrade with a bearing and a pair of shim washers - 630ZZ - 3x6x2.5mm ball bearing, + (2) 3 x 0.2 mm washers

 

 

[PhishLI]

10 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

That bushing will be a standard size that you can upgrade with a bearing and a pair of shim washers - 740ZZ - 4x7x2.5mm - same bearing (and shims) as a handle knob

Thanks, but I'm not sure that a bearing would be an upgrade due to where I fish. Right now the water here is clear, but once it heats up it'll have a green tint with plenty of suspended, gritty, organic matter throughout. It gets into and coats everything. A properly lubed bushing may be the better choice in a reel like this considering that it doesn't employ measures to protect a line roller bearing like some reels do right off the bat.

[bulldog1935]

I'm the opposite in the salt - sealed line rollers just keep the salt in.  

I swap all my Shimano line rollers for MTCW titanium with 2-BB and no seals - swap out the BBs every 4 years or so.  

 

titanium and 2 BB, vs. plated brass, rubber seals, nylon bushings and white lithium grease, from Ultegra to Stella

[the reel ess]

20# or 17# braid would work much better. You can tie on a mono or fluoro leader if you feel like braid is too visible. I usually do unless the water is chocolate milk. That said, you probably could. My buddy uses 15# Berkley Big Game almost exclusively. And that stuff is TOUGH.

[RDB]

Just stay within the manufacturers specs for that size reel and you will be fine.  They are listed a third of the way down the page.

[WRB]

The OP is looking at a $29 entry level spinning reel. Size 2500 for bass fishing.

Any premium monofilament line .010 diameter max will work. Sunline Super Natural 8 lb/ .009D or 10 lb/ .010D is $7 for 300 yards.

Tom

[Bankbeater]

I don't go heavier than 10# mono, and that's fishing Texas rigs in thick vegetation.  If I were casting small crankbaits in open water I would go with 8# mono.