What's new in fishing lines

[livemusic]

Not having bass fished much in the past few years, I'm unfamiliar with line advances. Are there any? For decades, I used mono. Then braid. Tried a couple of fluorocarbons, didn't like it. I fish a lot of soft plastics. Worms, fluke, swimbait. But also hard lures. Can anyone shed light on any new stuff that's good? What lines do you like? As for braid, I think Suffix 832 is one I have liked pretty good. I am open to any type.

 

EDIT:  I use both casting and spinning reels.

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Fluoro with improved not strength...

[Hulkster]

Sufix Siege is still the best mono out there, its limp enough to use on both casting and spinning, yet as strong as Big Game (which is much more stiff).

 

With a palomar knot its very hard to break.

 

awesome stuff

[bulldog1935]

Sufix 832 is great.  The first generational improvement in braid was finer-weave 8-strand braids, and coating them with silicone rubber to give them better manners.  

 

The next generation of braids has gone two ways, finer weaves, up to 12-strand, stronger, harder center core strand, and better wear-resistant silicone coatings.  

If you compare Japanese braids, the latest YGK and Duel 8-strands, X-braid and "hardcore" more than double the test for the same diameter as Sufix., e.g.:  

14-lb vs. 6-lb at 0.006" diameter

22-lb vs. 10-lb at 0.007"

(per Jun at japan Tackle, PE#1 = 0.007" is the finest you'd want to fish on a baitcaster)

46-lb vs. 20-lb at 0.009"

They're getting so small that they perform best on shallow spools made just for braid.  

[new2BC4bass]

Sufix has a new mono called Advance.  Guys on here that have used it say it has less stretch and good abrasion resistance.  I picked up some 20# to try on a skipping rod.  An online friend tried Spiderwire Ultracast Ultimate Monofilament when it first came out.  Said it was the best mono he had ever used.  A little more memory so he doesn't use over 8# on spinning reels.

 

Then you have the $$$ stuff like Seaguar Tatsu Fluorocarbon.

 

Give Fins braid a try.

[WRB]

Mono Sunline Diefer Armillo Nylon 11 lb to 25 lb, small diameter line. Sunline Supernatural for spinning 8-10 lbs.

Maxima Ultra Green Copolymer 5-6 lb spinning ( not new).

FC Sunline Sniper and Shooter is popular, Seaguar Tatsu good but SS, Invisx similes to Sniper.

Tom 

 

 

[Bluebasser86]

I'm testing some Sufix Advance right now. So far it's been as advertised but the memory is a bit more than most monos.

[@reelChris]

Kastking put out an email press release this week announcing its new 13 strand braid.  Not a lot of specifics were provided, but Amazon already has two strengths on the site, 15 lb @ .17mm diameter and 30lb @ .28 mm.  That's thinner than 832 (15 lb @ .22mm and 30lb @ .29mm) and Powerpro 15 lb @ .19mm.

 

https://www.amazon.com/KastKing-KastPro-Finesse-Braided-Fishing/dp/B08RYJYNLF?th=1&psc=1

 

(For Immediate Release - March 22, 2021 - Garden City, Long Island NY) KastKing, (kastking.com) a division of Eposeidon Outdoor, Inc., introduced a new specially designed, extraordinary braided fishing line with 13 strands of Ultra-High Molecular UHMPE fiber -- KastKing KastPro 13X Finesse. Using a sophisticated hybrid fiber and weaving process, KastKing created the smoothest, most supple and longest casting braided line for finesse, and other techniques. KastKing KastPro 13X-Finesse braid line is not only extremely thin, soft, smooth, and supple, but also has remarkable knot strength and straight-line breaking strength.  KastKing developed 13X Finesse for spinning reels which require a more supple line with no memory but also work great on casting presentations.

 

KastKing has also produced a new 8-strand hybrid braided fishing line; KastKing KastPro 8X-Finesse. With almost identical characteristics of its 13-carrier twin, many anglers will opt to use KastPro 8X Finesse for its incredible value. Still soft, supple, quiet, long casting and great knot strength, 8X Finesse is a great option at a lower price.

 

“After years of development and testing, the new KastKing KastPro 13X Finesse and 8X Finesse Braided line will be one our most important new product introductions in 2021!” says Al Noraker, KastKing VP of Business Development.

 

“Finesse techniques with spinning gear are becoming incredibly important for anglers targeting a wide range of species from Bass to Walleye and more. They've needed a braided fishing line that delivers incredible casting distance, smooth and quiet performance through guides, industry leading sensitivity and ultra-thin diameters. KastPro X Finesse lines delivers on all these points and much more.

 

“Most finesse techniques require the use of a thin, no-stretch braid combined with a short to medium fluorocarbon leader. X Finesse excels in knot strength and tournament anglers testing this new braid have rated it the best they've used.”

 

On March 20, Tate Cui, Eposeidon-KastKing CEO said during a KastKing new product introduction event, ”…KastKing has launched KastPro 13X Finesse Braided Fishing Line. 13 strands of Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene, (UHMPE) fibers are crossed 36 times every inch (36 PPI) creating the smoothest, most supple and longest casting braided line for finesse techniques. 12 over 1 construction of KastPro 13X Finesse produces a perfectly round braid fishing line. It makes KastPro 13X’s surface as smooth and soft as mono line or fluorocarbon line. You can hardly see its PPI, which greatly reduces the friction through the fishing reel and the line guides of the fishing rod to deliver long, quiet casts…

 

“…Why is the diameter of the 13-stranded line thinner than the general four-stranded or 8-stranded line? The answer is simple. Customized UHMPE fiber and a unique weaving process. The fiber of KastKing KastPro 13X Finesse Braided Fishing Line is a type of special customized UHMPE fiber. This UHMPE fiber is 1/2 to 2/3 thinner than normal fibers, and the customized fiber is stronger and softer, and ‘fuzzing’ does not easily occur when weaving.

 

“Meanwhile, the weaving process must be very sophisticated. With 1 strand of fiber as the center core, the other 12 strands wrap tightly around the center core that creates a perfectly ‘full and round’ finished braid rather than quadrilateral like general 4-strand or 8-strand braided line.”

 

KastKing CMO Tom Gahan says, “You could call X Finesse a ‘Boutique fishing line’, but they are not specialty lines. KastKing KastPro X Finesse lines can be used across a wide range of applications for freshwater and saltwater fishing. By offering a quality braided line at an affordable price KastKing set the fishing world on fire with KastKing SuperPower braid, which has been the best-selling braided fishing line for years on Amazon. Our price points for the new 13X and 8X lines are extremely competitive. That makes these lines attractive to professional and recreational anglers, alike.

[@reelChris]

To update my earlier post - Kastking finally released their 13x and 8x braids through Amazon.  They must think very highly of it as it's $29.99 for 150 yards of the 13x and $16.99 for 150 of the 8x.  

[FishTank]

Braid> Xplazma from Sunline

Mono> Deifer also from Sunline

FC > Seaguar Tatsu, Invizx, and Abrazx.  I also like Trilene XL100% FC for spinning gear

[AManWearingAHat]

Power Pro has their V2 braid out which I've been loving. Very slick and easy to cast.

[livemusic]

On 3/24/2021 at 7:52 AM, bulldog1935 said:

Sufix 832 is great.  The first generational improvement in braid was finer-weave 8-strand braids, and coating them with silicone rubber to give them better manners.  

 

The next generation of braids has gone two ways, finer weaves, up to 12-strand, stronger, harder center core strand, and better wear-resistant silicone coatings.  

If you compare Japanese braids, the latest YGK and Duel 8-strands, X-braid and "hardcore" more than double the test for the same diameter as Sufix., e.g.:  

14-lb vs. 6-lb at 0.006" diameter

22-lb vs. 10-lb at 0.007"

(per Jun at japan Tackle, PE#1 = 0.007" is the finest you'd want to fish on a baitcaster)

46-lb vs. 20-lb at 0.009"

They're getting so small that they perform best on shallow spools made just for braid.  

 

You say "PE#1"... what is that? And why is .007" the finest you'd want to use? TIA

[fishwizzard]

There is now Ester line out there.  From what I can gather, it's like fluorocarbon and braid had a baby, so you get a single strand, "clear" sinking line that has no stretch.  The people who are talking about it seem to mostly use it for extreme UL fishing for crappie using solid tipped ajing rods.   

[bulldog1935]

2 hours ago, livemusic said:

 

You say "PE#1"... what is that? And why is .007" the finest you'd want to use? TIA

PE# (Gou) is the traditional Japanese measurement for silk thread diameter -  

It ends up being a whole easier scale to compare lines than comparing 1/1000ths inch or 1/100ths mm

- and how all Asian rods are rated for lines.  

(Korean rod with Japanese line rating)

  Japanese Silk (japantackle.com)

https://www.jpfishingtacklenews.com/japanese-line-size/

It's Jun at Japan Tackle who says PE#1 is the finest you want to use on a baitcaster, primarily to prevent line dig-in