Curado BFS

[CrankFate]

This popped up on my Facebook feed:

 

 

Love the Curado. Think I’ll finally get one now. Only $189.00.

[garroyo130]

Anyone know the IPT on this one?

[redmeansdistortion]

1 hour ago, garroyo130 said:

Anyone know the IPT on this one?

32"

[CrankFate]

Wow, with the Curado being one of the most beloved reels of all time and this, AFAIK, the lightest one ever made AND also less than $200, I would’ve expected it to see more interest. I’m preordering this. 

[KP Duty]

Makes sense...they've had a scorpion bfs for a while now.

[CrankFate]

I guess that means anyone who would be interested already has the scorpion....

 

Makes sense to me now.

[JustJames]

Because there is post about this Curado BFS a day or two before you posted. Also here at BR is not as gear junkie as TT forum. Here you would hear more about fairy wand vs baitcaster war more than a benefit of different type setup.

 

 

[CrankFate]

1 hour ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Because there is post about this Curado BFS a day or two before you posted. Also here at BR is not as gear junkie as TT forum. Here you would hear more about fairy wand vs baitcaster war more than a benefit of different type setup.

 

 

That’s great. I searched it before posting, did not see this!

[redmeansdistortion]

7 hours ago, CrankFate said:

I guess that means anyone who would be interested already has the scorpion....

 

Makes sense to me now.

For what it's worth, the Scorpion BFS is an overall lighter reel, coming in at almost half an ounce lighter.  As to what makes the weight more on the Curado, I couldn't tell you.  I have yet to dissect either one.  Maybe they are mostly the same, but maybe the Scorpion uses a lighter frame and side plates?  Hard to say.  I do believe the spool is the same weight between them, so they should perform similarly.  

[jimmyjoe]

9 hours ago, CrankFate said:

I guess that means anyone who would be interested already has the scorpion....

 

   It's possible that Shimano is going to learn a hard lesson; they should have struck while the iron was hot. Timing is everything, especially in niche markets, and they're late to the dance.      jj                            

[CrankFate]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   It's possible that Shimano is going to learn a hard lesson; they should have struck while the iron was hot. Timing is everything, especially in niche markets, and they're late to the dance.      jj                            

from the posts I’ve been reading around here, I don’t think the iron was ever hot. But it is over seas. This reel will sell like crazy in the foreign markets on price alone.

[The Bassman]

12 hours ago, redmeansdistortion said:

For what it's worth, the Scorpion BFS is an overall lighter reel, coming in at almost half an ounce lighter.  As to what makes the weight more on the Curado, I couldn't tell you.  I have yet to dissect either one.  Maybe they are mostly the same, but maybe the Scorpion uses a lighter frame and side plates?  Hard to say.  I do believe the spool is the same weight between them, so they should perform similarly.  

 They're pretty much the same reel. I wouldn't think there would be any differences as far as frame materials. Maybe a different alloy for the main gear in the Scorp.  Still don't understand the big spread in price. Shimano is notorious for big price jumps over small upgrades.

[fishwizzard]

On 3/27/2021 at 7:12 PM, CrankFate said:

from the posts I’ve been reading around here, I don’t think the iron was ever hot.

 

It's all anecdotal evidence, but the reddit BFS sub has be steadily building members and twice in '20-21 has someone commented on it by name when I am using a casting combo for fishing park ponds for stocked trout, in previous years it's was just "how are you casting an inline spinner on that thing?!?", now at least a few guys seem to be familiar with the idea of UL/BFS casting.  

 

Daiwa tried to sell a BFS reel in the US, the Pixy R-Type, a decade ago, but the price was very high, I think Dobyns and now Shimano have it right by starting at the lower end of the market where it's less of a gamble to give the style a try.  

[jimmyjoe]

   I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I could say bye-bye to line twist on small spoons. Not fishing for trout or crappie either, but fishing for bass.                          jj

[redmeansdistortion]

44 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

It's all anecdotal evidence, but the reddit BFS sub has be steadily building members and twice in '20-21 has someone commented on it by name when I am using a casting combo for fishing park ponds for stocked trout, in previous years it's was just "how are you casting an inline spinner on that thing?!?", now at least a few guys seem to be familiar with the idea of UL/BFS casting.  

I've turned on a few of my fellow trout fishermen to using baitcast reels.  Some of the fly fishermen I encounter on the water became intrigued, and a few of those I regularly run into on a local creek are now fishing BFS to augment their fly tackle.

[CrankFate]

On 3/28/2021 at 4:00 AM, fishwizzard said:

 

It's all anecdotal evidence, but the reddit BFS sub has be steadily building members and twice in '20-21 has someone commented on it by name when I am using a casting combo for fishing park ponds for stocked trout, in previous years it's was just "how are you casting an inline spinner on that thing?!?", now at least a few guys seem to be familiar with the idea of UL/BFS casting.  

 

Daiwa tried to sell a BFS reel in the US, the Pixy R-Type, a decade ago, but the price was very high, I think Dobyns and now Shimano have it right by starting at the lower end of the market where it's less of a gamble to give the style a try.  

I think so, too. I still don’t know why the USDM became so attached to  heavy gear? Especially reels? I see all these Reddits, they weren’t this big just a year ago. I think, finally, the USDM is finally going to convert to lighter reels.

 

On 3/28/2021 at 4:44 AM, redmeansdistortion said:

I've turned on a few of my fellow trout fishermen to using baitcast reels.  Some of the fly fishermen I encounter on the water became intrigued, and a few of those I regularly run into on a local creek are now fishing BFS to augment their fly tackle.

Fly fishermen. Those guys make the BFS guys look like a bunch of slackers when it comes to being gear OCD.

[fishwizzard]

2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I could say bye-bye to line twist on small spoons. Not fishing for trout or crappie either, but fishing for bass.                          jj

 
If you are throwing 1/8-3/16oz spoons, the Teton is very much worth looking at. I just picked up and am currently testing the Dobyn’s UL rod and it is looking like a great longer range option for spoons in that size range. 
 

Spoons are one presentation that I 100% makes sense to use L/UL casting tackle for. Their aerodynamic shape and tendency to twist lines makes them a great fit for it. 

[redmeansdistortion]

20 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

I think so, too. I still don’t know why the USDM became so attached to  heavy gear? Especially reels? I see all these Reddits, they weren’t this big just a year ago. I think, finally, the USDM is finally going to convert to lighter reels.

It's due mostly to professional bass fishing and the marketing behind it in America.  Many amateur anglers follow suit and tend to purchase the same type of gear as the pros.  Bass are the easiest to access game fish in the country since they are either stocked or native nearly everywhere, thus the exceedingly large market.  Pro bass fishing is a numbers game, winch in the most amount of fish and get your name on the board.  This is why you typically see them fishing unusually heavy tackle for the size of the fish, so they can get them in the live well quickly.  This is pretty unique to bass fishing, since people that fish other species tend to pick tackle that's better matched in size to the fish they are pursuing.  

 

The same mentality is prevalent with the wide selection of technique specific rods.  The pros use those sorts of rods and the fans that follow those pros typically follow suit, and this is again unique to bass fishing.  The tried and true 3 rod method will work for most anybody without spending the money on more technique specific equipment.  The only exceptions to this are BFS and swimbait fishing.  People that regularly fish other species typically do not do this.  A walleye fisherman will use the same rod he uses for jigging to cast plugs.  A trout fisherman will use the same rod for throwing spoons and spinners that he does for drifitng bait, and so on and so forth.  

[jimmyjoe]

44 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

 
If you are throwing 1/8-3/16oz spoons, the Teton is very much worth looking at. I just picked up and am currently testing the Dobyn’s UL rod and it is looking like a great longer range option for spoons in that size range. 
 

 

   I already have a UL rod, but the reel I've been using is a re-lubed Curado 70. It's OK, but not anything like a true BFS reel. This new reel could be (I said could) a reel game-changer. (pun intended ?)                        

   I don't use light stuff all the time. In fact, I prefer heavy stuff. But sometimes the fish don't. ? 

   Not only that, but the light stuff is easier to use, because I have arthritis. So I've learned to be versatile, for several different reasons.  ??        jj

[NorthernBasser]

16 hours ago, redmeansdistortion said:

For what it's worth, the Scorpion BFS is an overall lighter reel, coming in at almost half an ounce lighter.  As to what makes the weight more on the Curado, I couldn't tell you. 

 

In the past, Curados always had a longer handle than the Scorpion. That may be the case with the BFS versions? That'd explain the more weight.

14 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   It's possible that Shimano is going to learn a hard lesson; they should have struck while the iron was hot. Timing is everything, especially in niche markets, and they're late to the dance.      jj                            

Shimano makes the Scorpion. 

[CrankFate]

2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   I already have a UL rod, but the reel I've been using is a re-lubed Curado 70. It's OK, but not anything like a true BFS reel. This new reel could be (I said could) a reel game-changer. (pun intended ?)                        

   I don't use light stuff all the time. In fact, I prefer heavy stuff. But sometimes the fish don't. ? 

   Not only that, but the light stuff is easier to use, because I have arthritis. So I've learned to be versatile, for several different reasons.  ??        jj

No arthritis, as confirmed by 3 doctors using imaging of my feet, hand and elbow—but from fishing heavy spinning gear as a kid, I have a mild dupuytrens contracture between the two middle fingers on my right hand.  So I switched to bc reels in the left hand. Lighter gear hooks more fish. Period. I fell very sorry for guys out there fishing rigs for trophy blue cats when they’re going for bass. Just drop it down. Go for less line capacity. It never made sense to me that all these guys are buying cheaper backer line to fill a spool with all that extra line they will never use. 

[jimmyjoe]

3 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

Shimano makes the Scorpion. 

 

   Correct. Scorpion is JDM though, not USDM. The "dance" that Shimano may be late for is not manufacturing, but selling in the US market.

 

 

1 hour ago, CrankFate said:

. It never made sense to me that all these guys are buying cheaper backer line to fill a spool with all that extra line they will never use. 

 

   Actually, it makes more sense to me for the lighter reels with their lighter line to be deeper and take more line compared to the 150-size and 200-size reels. In the years when I was confined to lighter spinning gear, there were many times a large or vigorous fish almost spooled me. BFS will probably have the same problem if the fisherman uses the light line that seems to be recommended.

   This was in the river, though, not a lake. Slightly different environment.                jj

[CrankFate]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Correct. Scorpion is JDM though, not USDM. The "dance" that Shimano may be late for is not manufacturing, but selling in the US market.

 

 

 

   Actually, it makes more sense to me for the lighter reels with their lighter line to be deeper and take more line compared to the 150-size and 200-size reels. In the years when I was confined to lighter spinning gear, there were many times a large or vigorous fish almost spooled me. BFS will probably have the same problem if the fisherman uses the light line that seems to be recommended.

   This was in the river, though, not a lake. Slightly different environment.                jj

I have never had any fish come anywhere near spooling me. Even very big ones. Though I am no going for Marlins and tunas, though. The chances I hook a fish that’s running 100’ at a time at 5-9 pounds drag is around zero percent. Let the jokes fly, since I only catch small fish. But seriously, I only really fish for fish where 10lbs is a trophy and 20 is a record.

[CrankFate]

Done deal preordered it along with a megabass levante jerkbait special and an LC 95 pointer. Not really for BFS, but whatever. You can’t tell what the spool looks like once the line is on it.

[dv616]

I would say that reel looks good.  I have gift card to Amazon and the Zephyr was on on sale too, so I'm trying that for my first BFS reel.  Curado BFS may be the second if I like it.