Revenge Spinnerbaits

[clc48301]

Has anyone noticed that the revenge spinnerbaits selection dropped to like no color options on tacklewarehouse?  Dies anykbe know what is going on?

     I like their 5/0 hooks and the thin wire give off a nice thump.  I'm just wondering if i need a new goto spinnerbait

[WRB]

Contact the Revenge Lure company directly.

Tom

[Dens228]

Thankfully I ordered several Shad and Bluegill over the winter since they seem to be done now.  

[LVLDVL]

Around 2019, I bought several Revenge spinnerbaits from TW and noticed that several of them had generic looking stainless steel wire. At least they were still the same thin diameter. The dozen or so I purchased before 2018 and the few in that 2018 order still had the bronze looking color wire. Does it make the baits worse? I don't know, but that wire makes an $8 spinnerbait look like a <$5 rack spinnerbait that doesn't even come with a package. Are they doing it to cut costs? In my opinion, yes. I cannot confirm because I emailed them back in 2018 and it was never responded to. What wires does yours have?

Also, in 2017 or so when I ordered a few, I noticed some spinnerbaits had a serious flare when you hold it upside down. I emailed them about this and they actually got back to me stating they are experimenting with a different kind of skirt or band but unfortunately, also said don't expect the big flaring skirts to become normal stock. I took this as "...we're just gonna keep them the same after all."

 

I haven't bought a Revenge since seeing the stainless wires and I don't plan to. Mainly because I now prefer underspin swimbait and swimjig. But if I were to buy one for a friend, I'd just buy a Pepper Hawg or Strike King Premier. Those were the ones I used to use before switching to Revenge. I have a dozen or so that I may be trying to put up with some other stuff in the flea market. I'll PM you when I do.

[Munkin]

7 hours ago, LVLDVL said:

Around 2019, I bought several Revenge spinnerbaits from TW and noticed that several of them had generic looking stainless steel wire. At least they were still the same thin diameter. The dozen or so I purchased before 2018 and the few in that 2018 order still had the bronze looking color wire. Does it make the baits worse? I don't know, but that wire makes an $8 spinnerbait look like a <$5 rack spinnerbait that doesn't even come with a package. Are they doing it to cut costs? In my opinion, yes. I cannot confirm because I emailed them back in 2018 and it was never responded to. What wires does yours have?

Also, in 2017 or so when I ordered a few, I noticed some spinnerbaits had a serious flare when you hold it upside down. I emailed them about this and they actually got back to me stating they are experimenting with a different kind of skirt or band but unfortunately, also said don't expect the big flaring skirts to become normal stock. I took this as "...we're just gonna keep them the same after all."

 

I haven't bought a Revenge since seeing the stainless wires and I don't plan to. Mainly because I now prefer underspin swimbait and swimjig. But if I were to buy one for a friend, I'd just buy a Pepper Hawg or Strike King Premier. Those were the ones I used to use before switching to Revenge. I have a dozen or so that I may be trying to put up with some other stuff in the flea market. I'll PM you when I do.

 

Can you post pics of the two baits? I want to see the difference in them that you are talking about. As for the wire color the brownish color wire is called super stainless (not sure why because of the color?) its stronger than normal wire at a given diameter. Terminator calls it like 770 wire or something like that? I use it in my baits a lot.

 

Allen

[clc48301]

Thats what i thought too, the colors should show up as not available.  I emailed revenge to see what is going on.

[LVLDVL]

10 hours ago, Munkin said:

 

Can you post pics of the two baits? I want to see the difference in them that you are talking about. As for the wire color the brownish color wire is called super stainless (not sure why because of the color?) its stronger than normal wire at a given diameter. Terminator calls it like 770 wire or something like that? I use it in my baits a lot.

 

Allen

The bluegill far left is the older models, next to it is the newer, then the white chart is older, the all chart with painted chart blades is newer with generic stainless wire. You can see the darker colored wires on the older models.

 

Ok, call me crazy, but as I took this photo, I am stretching and moving the two different wires and there is a VERY NOTICEABLE difference in how flexible the wires feels. The "super" stainless feels so much easier to compress and pull which should mean more vibration. I just assumed it was a coloration and I thought the bronze, "super" color just looked cleaner, like a camoflage. So if the older Revenge baits were indeed using "super" stainless, then that means they have been cutting corners recently and this means the overall quality of the baits isn't so great anymore. Nobody with a recent batch purchase has chimed in to say what wires they have so I'll assume all Revenge spinnerbaits since 2019 are now the silver generic stainless wires.

I guess this wire ordeal might become a big reason to switch brands for some people?

[Boomstick]

19 hours ago, BoomerSooner said:

Tacticalbassin mentioned them on one of their videos not too long ago.  I'll bet that has something to do with it.

They mentioned them years ago, they never sold out.

[Munkin]

On 3/23/2021 at 10:44 AM, LVLDVL said:

The bluegill far left is the older models, next to it is the newer, then the white chart is older, the all chart with painted chart blades is newer with generic stainless wire. You can see the darker colored wires on the older models.

 

Ok, call me crazy, but as I took this photo, I am stretching and moving the two different wires and there is a VERY NOTICEABLE difference in how flexible the wires feels. The "super" stainless feels so much easier to compress and pull which should mean more vibration. I just assumed it was a coloration and I thought the bronze, "super" color just looked cleaner, like a camoflage. So if the older Revenge baits were indeed using "super" stainless, then that means they have been cutting corners recently and this means the overall quality of the baits isn't so great anymore. Nobody with a recent batch purchase has chimed in to say what wires they have so I'll assume all Revenge spinnerbaits since 2019 are now the silver generic stainless wires.

I guess this wire ordeal might become a big reason to switch brands for some people?

 

Do you have a set of calipers that you can check the wire diameter on both baits? The brown frames do cost more but only like $0.03 which I guess could add up.

 

Allen

[zeth]

I love revenge spinnerbaits. they get bit more for me. I also like r2s and picasso. all of those use the brown wire. some others probably doo too. Revenge spinnerbaits are popular and break fast so I order at least 6 of each color and weight that I want. Sometimes though that only lasts a ay if the spinnerbait bite is on fire. 

[Bdnoble84]

On 3/23/2021 at 9:44 AM, LVLDVL said:

The bluegill far left is the older models, next to it is the newer, then the white chart is older, the all chart with painted chart blades is newer with generic stainless wire. You can see the darker colored wires on the older models.

 

Ok, call me crazy, but as I took this photo, I am stretching and moving the two different wires and there is a VERY NOTICEABLE difference in how flexible the wires feels. The "super" stainless feels so much easier to compress and pull which should mean more vibration. I just assumed it was a coloration and I thought the bronze, "super" color just looked cleaner, like a camoflage. So if the older Revenge baits were indeed using "super" stainless, then that means they have been cutting corners recently and this means the overall quality of the baits isn't so great anymore. Nobody with a recent batch purchase has chimed in to say what wires they have so I'll assume all Revenge spinnerbaits since 2019 are now the silver generic stainless wires.

I guess this wire ordeal might become a big reason to switch brands for some people?

I wouldnt say they are cutting corners. This is from barlows for 30ft .033 wire. Identical price on barlows. Maybe its a supply issue? Alot of terminal tackle and components are hard to get right now. I made a bunch of baits this past summer with .033 brown ss. It is definitely a more rigid wire than reg ss. More difficult to bend and tune, but once you get it there it holds in place.

[Kev-mo]

On 3/22/2021 at 10:44 PM, Munkin said:

 

Can you post pics of the two baits? I want to see the difference in them that you are talking about. As for the wire color the brownish color wire is called super stainless (not sure why because of the color?) its stronger than normal wire at a given diameter. Terminator calls it like 770 wire or something like that? I use it in my baits a lot.

 

Allen

slightly off topic but i saw zman came out with a small spinnerbait using 17-7 coffee colored wire. wondering if it's the same wire you are talking about?

[LuckyHandsINC.]

Has anyone heard anything definitive about the future of Revenge Baits?

 

I use a lot of their products and would hate if they were finished.

[clc48301]

I emailed them and never received a response

[clc48301]

The revenge baits website is gone, so these guys are done.

[Dens228]

1 hour ago, clc48301 said:

The revenge baits website is gone, so these guys are done.

That's too bad.