BFS? I Don't Get It

[soflabasser]

3 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

Make little fish fun to catch?Micro fishing?

I enjoy micro fishing as much as I enjoy catching big game species in the ocean. Not everyone is going to like the same things and that is ok. 

[softwateronly]

Spinning is more accurate for me, but I can't do this....  ?‍♂️

 

 

[soflabasser]

2 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

That fish and everything we landed in Florida was caught on spinning tackle.

Congratulations on your new Personal Best bass she is a beauty. I also catch most of my bass on spinning gear.

[JustJames]

30 minutes ago, The Bassman said:

I combine BFS with standard tactics. My Shimano Brenious lets me go plenty light with 10-15 lb. braid  but fishes like any 30-70 size Shimano. That said I use it just for fun. For me there's no denying that spinning is more versatile. But don't we fish just for fun? I paint to pay the bills. More power to dedicated BFS guys I say.

Well said my friend. This type baitcaster with shallow spool enable some of us to use with 8-10lb braid where it used to be almost impossible, for finesse tactics, unless using spinning. Do we call ourselves BFS crown, NOPE just use the right gear for the right job.

And he got plenty of nice fairy wand setups where a lot of ppl dream of.

[BrianMDTX]

1 hour ago, Deplorable Fisherman said:

Did he at least give back your arrow? 

 

Is shed hunting considered catch and release? ??

He was kind enough to let it pass thru lol. 

[ATA]

2 hours ago, Vilas15 said:

I don't agree with this one. I'm much better with my UL and 3/16 oz spinners on a 5' wide stream than I'd ever be with a baitcaster.

Maybe for you, But for me when I cast, I can stop the spool by my thumb at the exact point I want, but in spinning I don't have that option.

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

I disagree with both these - my cast-retrieve time with spinning is about the same with either, and my accuracy with spinning is actually better than with BC.

 

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, ATA said:

Maybe for you, But for me when I cast, I can stop the spool by my thumb at the exact point I want, but in spinning I don't have that option.

How you learn and practice is the key factor. I was using spinners for a dozen years before I picked up my first BC.

 

I hold the rod with the stem of the reel between my ring-finger and pinkie finger. Index finger not only picks up the line for casting, but I can reach it out to 'feather' the line coming off the spool - works same as thumbing a reel for BC - letting me drop the lure exactly where I want it.

 

I'd have to re-learn how to cast light lures if I switched to BFS - what I know and have 50 or so years practice in doing would have to be tossed aside. Not worth it to me - younger guys may have the time and patience...I don't.

[ATA]

7 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

How you learn and practice is the key factor. I was using spinners for a dozen years before I picked up my first BC.

 

I hold the rod with the stem of the reel between my ring-finger and pinkie finger. Index finger not only picks up the line for casting, but I can reach it out to 'feather' the line coming off the spool - works same as thumbing a reel for BC - letting me drop the lure exactly where I want it.

 

I'd have to re-learn how to cast light lures if I switched to BFS - what I know and have 50 or so years practice in doing would have to be tossed aside. Not worth it to me - younger guys may have the time and patience...I don't.

I am agree with you, I only start fishing year 2008 and I start  with BC reel. my first reel was ambassadeur 4500c reel.

I never forget that day, I catch 3 Tilapia and eat them beside same lake with Thai Beer.

[JustJames]

4 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Those who don't want to have spinning gear in their arsenal because of the derogatory appellation of 'fairy wand' that BC hard-core aficionados have applied to a totally valid finesse rig.

 

4 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

I rest my case.

 

I've said it before - if I had to go one way or the other, I'd pick spinning over BC.

 It is you though who started off about fairy wand war.

[ghost]

Um, the bass doesn't know you're using BFS or regular casting gear, or spinning gear. Bass see's a meal, micro, small, big, large. If the bass is hungry or annoyed enough, it'll do a smackdown on the lure, no concern of lure size.

 

It's the fisherman who cares how big his rod is...and maybe his reel.

[redmeansdistortion]

I fish trout 90% of the time, and BFS for me makes it more enjoyable since I prefer a casting reel over a spinning reel.  With my 4'10" UL, I can cast accurately when neck deep in the spinach on the tiny creeks I usually fish.  It's always a hoot getting the fluoride stare from the fly fishermen I occasionally stumble across while on the streams.  I've had a few of them say something along the lines of "you aren't going to find any bass around here".  I'm here for trout brother, just like you.  What I have tied up in BFS gear is just a drop in the bucket compared to what a die hard fly fisherman will spend on a nice rod and reel.  I know a couple of those guys, and it isn't unheard of for them to drop over $1000 on a nicer fly rod, then there are the reels.

[soflabasser]

9 hours ago, ghost said:

Um, the bass doesn't know you're using BFS or regular casting gear, or spinning gear. Bass see's a meal, micro, small, big, large. If the bass is hungry or annoyed enough, it'll do a smackdown on the lure, no concern of lure size.

 

It's the fisherman who cares how big his rod is...and maybe his reel.

Well said! I have noticed that some bass fisherman put bass on a pedestal. Black bass are just overgrown sunfish so if you know what you are doing you will catch them while micro fishing, finesse fishing, power fishing, whichever way you want.

[jimmyjoe]

BFS? I Don't Get It

 

Obviously, someone else does.

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_Curado_BFS_Casting_Reel/descpage-CRBF.html

 

https://dobynsrods.com/the-dobyns-sierra-ultra-finesse-casting-series/

[roadwarrior]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

BFS? I Don't Get It

 

Obviously, someone else does.

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_Curado_BFS_Casting_Reel/descpage-CRBF.html

 

https://dobynsrods.com/the-dobyns-sierra-ultra-finesse-casting-series/

No doubt...

My jerkbait outfit might work as a close proxy: 

6' 10" Rainshadow ETEC68M/ Diawa Alpha 103 or Aldebaran

Picked up these lures, too: (3) D-Contact 50 and  (3)  D-Contact 63

https://japantackle.com/smith-dcontact.html

[JustJames]

2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

BFS? I Don't Get It

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_Curado_BFS_Casting_Reel/descpage-CRBF.html

 

Thanks,

At least we got the EUDM version not SLX BFS (2 less bearing on the knob) from JDM. It basically old scorpion bfs in new paint, no micro module gear, but quite a bit cheaper than 70MGL and way cheaper than Scorpion BFS with Full warranty. Man, should I be happy?

US market is really suck in this category or all categories in comparison with Europe and Asian. They got all kind of nicer rod and reels, baitcaster and spinning. We here only want bigger, heavier, Tank a lot of line capacity to fit 50lb braid or 25lb FC because we think our fish is bigger and need those big line and big/heavy reel to catch them.

[jimmyjoe]

52 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

 

US market is really suck in this category or all categories in comparison with Europe and Asian. They got all kind of nicer rod and reels, baitcaster and spinning. We here only want bigger, heavier, Tank a lot of line capacity to fit 50lb braid or 25lb FC because we think our fish is bigger and need those big line and big/heavy reel to catch them.

 

   Not necessarily.

   I've seen both sides of the coin. Years ago, I used Ambassadeur reels with heavier lures to fish. Then I got arthritis, and for a good number of years I used only ultralight spinning.

   I caught fish with both.

   I caught small fish with both.

   I caught big fish with both.

   Now, thanks to the miracle of modern medicine, I can go back to my heavier equipment again. But I don't do it because I think that our fish are bigger, or even because I target lunkers. I do it because:

   1) Sometimes I need distance. Bigger, heavier lures give me that, and give me that more efficiently. They especially perform better against the wind.

   2) Bigger lures with treble hooks have bigger treble hooks. I like that. Look at the trebles on a #3 Mepps Aglia, or a Bomber 13A or Dardevle Spinnie. Then compare those to the Musky Killer (a great bass lure!) or the Bomber 16A or the Dardevlet.  People say they have problems with treble hooks, but they really have problems with SMALL treble hooks. Want a bigger hook? Get a bigger lure.

   3) Some lure families have small lures that are as productive as their larger lures. But some don't. Some fishermen like a particular lure action that they only get from a larger or heavier lure. That's their choice.

   4) You need to remember that the market is driven by sales, and sales are driven by need. I understand your frustration, but this is here and that is there, whether we like it or not. Inconvenient? Sure, but at least we have the freedom to choose in this country.

 

   Have a freakin', knockout, WONDERFUL day!   ?    jj

[Darren.]

My experiment, mentioned several times in previous posts, was to

try and go all baitcasting many years back. Two Chronarch 50s with

10# and 15# braid + leaders 6-10lb test, upgraded to 7:1 gearing.

 

Could do almost everything I could with spinning. Just realized one

day that spinning was just better for the light stuff. My opinion, of

course. Skipping is easier, etc. Accuracy? For me, I'm pretty good

with both. All in how you learn/adjust. The palm of your other hand

or your fingers can simulate what you can do with the thumb to 

slow down the line on a BC reel.

 

When I go out, yeah, I want a big bass, but I'm happiest when I've

caught a fish regardless of the species. Means I don't leave skunked.  

[Alpster]

Just a reminder that the monster you caught at Guntresville was on a pretty light rig.

[roadwarrior]

Fat Ika rigged on #4 Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

The same line for the smalljaws in my avatar, too.

[fissure_man]

 

23 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Those who don't want to have spinning gear in their arsenal because of the derogatory appellation of 'fairy wand' that BC hard-core aficionados have applied to a totally valid finesse rig.

 

Hey now, I think it’s a term of affection, only derogatory if you take it that way ?

 

When I’m after smallies, 90% of the time it’s with a fairy wand in hand.

 

As far as I can gather, people use BFS because they like it – it’s that simple. I don’t think it’s a “macho” thing – hard to look tough wielding a 5 ft trout rod. LOL 

 

At the end of the day, who cares?

 

22 hours ago, ironbjorn said:

 They're not even nice to look at and half of them wouldn't be interested in my goods anyways.

 

Yikes ?  Bit rich to read this kind of thing on a fishing website, bass anglers of course being known for athleticism and good looks ... "half" may be an understatement lol.

 

[ironbjorn]

26 minutes ago, fissure_man said:

 

 

Hey now, I think it’s a term of affection, only derogatory if you take it that way ?

 

When I’m after smallies, 90% of the time it’s with a fairy wand in hand.

 

As far as I can gather, people use BFS because they like it – it’s that simple. I don’t think it’s a “macho” thing – hard to look tough wielding a 5 ft trout rod. LOL 

 

At the end of the day, who cares?

 

 

Yikes ?  Bit rich to read this kind of thing on a fishing website, bass anglers of course being known for athleticism and good looks ... "half" may be an understatement lol.

 

I look like a bald hairy toad, but at least you know what's in my pants.

[Derek1]

2 hours ago, ironbjorn said:

I look like a bald hairy toad, but at least you know what's in my pants.

Lol, I can almost here Irene. 

[onenutinthewater]

I don't get bass fishing- Why fish for something that is not going to pull like hell and do cart wheels out of the water?

Joking aside I do love BFS for big trout......

And yes-a season ticket holder to the women's basketball team?

GO DUCKS!

[redmeansdistortion]

8 hours ago, onenutinthewater said:

I don't get bass fishing- Why fish for something that is not going to pull like hell and do cart wheels out of the water?

Yeah but you can skip a steelhead across the water horsing it in on 65lb braid with the drag locked down?

[NYWayfarer]

To each their own.

 

I am not into BFS...yet. Never say never. I prefer light spinning gear for my trout and panfish sessions. 
 

As far as women’s sports I like watching women’s tennis ?