Spring Muddy water finesse baits?

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1 hour ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

Explain the never stop moving part? How would that work from the bank then? Hoping it over rocks? I understand the concept from fishing on a boat though lol. 

Ideally, you turn the handle ever so slowly, and the bait glides an inch or two (less if you are good) from the bottom the whole time. It's not an on the bottom thing, though it can be in places where it won't get hung. It's how I caught most of my winter fish, I used a crappie or walleye ball head and cut the tail off some grubs.

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

Explain the never stop moving part? How would that work from the bank then? Hoping it over rocks? I understand the concept from fishing on a boat though lol. 

Let it sink until you feel it's close to the bottom, watch your line and count it down if necessary so if it hits bottom you can start reeling sooner the next cast. When you start moving the bait, you never fully stop it. It's a slow turn of the reel handle and gentle shaking of the rod tip, also known as the "swim-shake-glide" Midwest Finesse retrieve. 

 

It's no more difficult to do from shore than a boat, my 7 year old was doing it last year by himself from shore and catching smallmouth and never lost a bait in a couple hours we bank fished. 

[TriStateBassin106]

16 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Let it sink until you feel it's close to the bottom, watch your line and count it down if necessary so if it hits bottom you can start reeling sooner the next cast. When you start moving the bait, you never fully stop it. It's a slow turn of the reel handle and gentle shaking of the rod tip, also known as the "swim-shake-glide" Midwest Finesse retrieve. 

 

It's no more difficult to do from shore than a boat, my 7 year old was doing it last year by himself from shore and catching smallmouth and never lost a bait in a couple hours we bank fished. 

So with that technique you don't pause it at all? I always thought with the ned rig the pause is the most important part. 

[galyonj]

1 hour ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

So with that technique you don't pause it at all? I always thought with the ned rig the pause is the most important part. 

 

Depends on what the fish want and what the bottom composition allows for. Lots of different ways to do it.

 

If getting hung up in that chunk rock is that big a concern, there are a bunch of ways to stay finesse and not let a jighead settle on the bottom.

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1 hour ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

So with that technique you don't pause it at all? I always thought with the ned rig the pause is the most important part. 

If you pause it twice and you get hung and loose it twice no pausing, if you pause it twice, and you catch 2 fish, more pausing, TTA.

[TriStateBassin106]

2 hours ago, galyonj said:

 

Depends on what the fish want and what the bottom composition allows for. Lots of different ways to do it.

 

If getting hung up in that chunk rock is that big a concern, there are a bunch of ways to stay finesse and not let a jighead settle on the bottom.

Yeah a little bit. I've lost plenty of small texas rigs and jigs to riprap. 

4 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Let it sink until you feel it's close to the bottom, watch your line and count it down if necessary so if it hits bottom you can start reeling sooner the next cast. When you start moving the bait, you never fully stop it. It's a slow turn of the reel handle and gentle shaking of the rod tip, also known as the "swim-shake-glide" Midwest Finesse retrieve. 

 

It's no more difficult to do from shore than a boat, my 7 year old was doing it last year by himself from shore and catching smallmouth and never lost a bait in a couple hours we bank fished. 

Would the swim n shake retrieve work well in the pre spawn? It sounds like a good warmer water technique. I'm still fairly new to ned rig fishing and I fish it like I do jigs and texas rigs 90% of the bites come on the initial fall.. Always glad to learn new retrieval styles though, definitely gonna try them out! 

[galyonj]

2 minutes ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

Yeah a little bit. I've lost plenty of small texas rigs and jigs to riprap. 

 

For sure. That's just the cost of doing business. I lost a jig and a rattletrap today. Put my cranking stick down, switched to a wacky-rigged ocho and a swim jig, and then I caught a fish. Like the universe smiled on me for going with the flow.