Victory Is Near

[MIbassyaker]

22 hours ago, ArthurLK11 said:

My biggest and really only beef is with the handle. Too long and uncomfortable, not to mention I hate foam. Wish they would've just went with a simple reel seat like on the Mojo Bass.
 

 

This is the only thing that has me hesitating until I get a chance to physically hold one in person.  Long handles are the bane of my existence (although not as bad on spinning as casting).  When I saw SC making a big deal about how these rods are better balanced than previous lines, I wondered if they had achieved this in part by lengthening the handle section. 

[ArthurLK11]

6 hours ago, MIbassyaker said:

 

This is the only thing that has me hesitating until I get a chance to physically hold one in person.  Long handles are the bane of my existence (although not as bad on spinning as casting).  When I saw SC making a big deal about how these rods are better balanced than previous lines, I wondered if they had achieved this in part by lengthening the handle section. 

 

It does balance slightly better than a Mojo Bass in my opinion. I'm not a rod builder, but couldn't they achieve the same thing with a shorter handle and just add a little bit of weight to it? 

[S Hovanec]

8 hours ago, ArthurLK11 said:

 

It does balance slightly better than a Mojo Bass in my opinion. I'm not a rod builder, but couldn't they achieve the same thing with a shorter handle and just add a little bit of weight to it? 

 

A weighted butt cap would definitely achieve that. The few Dobbyns rods I've worked on had a chunk of metal in the butt.

[Bluebasser86]

On 3/20/2021 at 2:38 PM, S Hovanec said:

Mine showed up today.  Really impressed with the weight, especially for a sub $200 rod.  I have 2 rods lighter and one the same weight, but there's more than $200 in parts alone in each one of those.

 

I really wish these blanks were available, I'm sure I could build a sub 2.5oz rod the this model.

 

 

 

I think there's a typo on the rod specs though. There's no way this rod is rated for 20-lb line

That does seem odd for a ML to be rated up to 20lb line? Usually more around 12/14.

[Allen Der]

20lb braid seems an appropriate max for that rod.  I doubt anyone would try 20lb mono on a ML

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, Allen Der said:

20lb braid seems an appropriate max for that rod.  I doubt anyone would try 20lb mono on a ML

20lb braid might make sense, but usually rods that have ratings for braid will have 2 separate ratings, 1 for mono/fluoro and 1 for braid. Like you said though, nobody should be buying a ML rod to use it with 20lb mono anyways.

[S Hovanec]

6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

That does seem odd for a ML to be rated up to 20lb line? Usually more around 12/14.

 

St Croix's 6'9 and now the 6'10 MLXF rating has been 6-10# for the last 17 years.  I see no reason for them to double it now.

[Sir Shamsalot]

On 3/19/2021 at 9:21 AM, Deplorable Fisherman said:

I ordered from TW and it "looks" like they still have stock. Not sure if their web site updates inventory in real time?

 

Just had a chat with TW and they said their website is updated in real time, so if it is showing in stock then you can grab one and it looks like all the first release models are still in their inventory.

That's not always the case with TW. I ordered a Metanium while it showed a stock of 4 on a Saturday, and got the backorder notice on Monday. I did order two victory rods the first morning listed at 4:30am Eastern from TW before going to work. We'll see if I get another backorder notice today. 

[Deplorable Fisherman]

50 minutes ago, Sir Shamsalot said:

That's not always the case with TW. I ordered a Metanium while it showed a stock of 4 on a Saturday, and got the backorder notice on Monday. I did order two victory rods the first morning listed at 4:30am Eastern from TW before going to work. We'll see if I get another backorder notice today. 

I can only go by what they told me. I do not work there nor did I design their website. 

[Matt Eisen]

Speaking of specs, why do you guys think that the 7'3" Heavy XF & 7'2" MH Moderate Victories are only rated to 7/8ths of an ounce? That seems like such an odd number... is that something to be concerned about?

[Allen Der]

12 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

20lb braid might make sense, but usually rods that have ratings for braid will have 2 separate ratings, 1 for mono/fluoro and 1 for braid. Like you said though, nobody should be buying a ML rod to use it with 20lb mono anyways.

 

Some of the casting models are rated up to 65lbs.  so it looks like they are combining the mono and braid ratings.  

31 minutes ago, Matt Eisen said:

Speaking of specs, why do you guys think that the 7'3" Heavy XF & 7'2" MH Moderate Victories are only rated to 7/8ths of an ounce? That seems like such an odd number... is that something to be concerned about?

Is that really that odd of a number?  I've seen a lot of rods measured to 1/8th or 1/16ths of an ounce.  

 

I'm hearing from people that got their rods last week that the power ratings on these are much different than the traditional st croix ratings.  H is more like the old MH and MH is more like old M.  

[Matt Eisen]

2 hours ago, Allen Der said:

I'm hearing from people that got their rods last week that the power ratings on these are much different than the traditional st croix ratings.  H is more like the old MH and MH is more like old M.  

 

Between ghoti's review on page 1 and what you just said seems to be the general consensus. Okay thank you all for helping me make my decision

 

[CrankFate]

I was an anti St Croix guy for a long time. But the last 10-15 years saw them greatly improve, IMO. Nice to finally see a rod that considers balance.

[Glenn]

Are you talking about the specs on this page?  Or are you seeing them someplace else?

[kingmotorboat]

The full contact finesse caught my eye but I’m still undecided. I’d like to see someone offer insight on it

[Bluebasser86]

4 hours ago, kingmotorboat said:

The full contact finesse caught my eye but I’m still undecided. I’d like to see someone offer insight on it

What insight do you want on it?

[kingmotorboat]

8 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

What insight do you want on it?

Tip balance and backbone to pitch finesse jigs and say 3/16 oz weighted plastics and unweighted yum dingers

Just now, kingmotorboat said:

Tip balance and backbone to pitch finesse jigs and say 3/16 oz weighted plastics and unweighted yum dingers

Funny cause I’m using a tat sv on it as well when I pull the trigger

[Allen Der]

On 3/22/2021 at 8:23 PM, Glenn said:

Are you talking about the specs on this page?  Or are you seeing them someplace else?

[A-Jay]

Victory is Mine ! 

Looking forward to fishing these new rigs and finding out what they are all about.

A-Jay

[Fishnski48]

Sweet looking combos, hope they fish as good as they look.  Please let us know!

[A-Jay]

4 minutes ago, Fishnski48 said:

Sweet looking combos, hope they fish as good as they look.  Please let us know!

You can count on it.

A-Jay

[S Hovanec]

22 hours ago, Allen Der said:

 

They really must have lightened up the MLXF.  Specs were always 6-10# 1/8-1/2oz.  I thought it felt a little softer than my scv, but I haven't compared them side by side yet.  This may end up being another one that's too light, like my NFC DS610 and Eternity 610mxf

[Allen Der]

19 minutes ago, S Hovanec said:

 

They really must have lightened up the MLXF.  Specs were always 6-10# 1/8-1/2oz.  I thought it felt a little softer than my scv, but I haven't compared them side by side yet.  This may end up being another one that's too light, like my NFC DS610 and Eternity 610mxf

 

I got the 73MXF yesterday and it is super light.  feels like a ML not a M.  I havent had a chance to put a reel on it or use it yet

[Bluebasser86]

On 3/24/2021 at 7:16 AM, kingmotorboat said:

Tip balance and backbone to pitch finesse jigs and say 3/16 oz weighted plastics and unweighted yum dingers

Funny cause I’m using a tat sv on it as well when I pull the trigger

Finesse jigs it does just fine ?

[Glenn]

On 3/26/2021 at 8:14 AM, A-Jay said:

You can count on it.

A-Jay

 

Well??