BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted March 16, 2021 BassResource.com Administrator Posted March 16, 2021 Available 3.19.20. Made in the U.S.A. and surprisingly affordable. Check out the lineup here. Quote
Hulkster Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 awesome but their marketing team needs to be fired. no one knows what a grunt or marshal technique is. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 What's the guesses ? I say they sell out in T- Minus 15 minutes . . . . Everywhere. Anyone else plan on being on line at midnight ? A-Jay Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 ghoti review: Posted March 3 · IP Add a new rod to my St Croix collection. Been a fan of St Croix for quite some time. I have four Avids, three LTBs, and one Extreme. Had them for years and use them all the time. Never had a problem with any of them. All are very well built. I have a new Victory; 7’1” MH-F. A very well built rod from Park Falls. Good fitment, no gaps or seams between components. Thread and epoxy are tight and neat. i’ve said before that certain other rod manufacturers (you reading this NRX) should buy a rod built in Park Falls, take it to their production people, lay it on the table, and say why cant we build rods like this. This is what a well built rod looks like. Colors are subtle. One beef I’ve had with my LTBs and Extreme is the grips are too short. They have corrected this in the Victory line. Guides are Fuji; two double foot, the rest single foot. I think they are the gunmetal finish. I have not used gunmetal guides on any of my builds, so I’m guessing. My only beef is the reel seat, a Fuji SK seat. That, along with the Pac Bay Minima seat are my two candidates for the worst, most uncomfortable, reel seats ever made. The addition of an EVA piece in the middle does help. For me, it makes the rod usable for a much longer period of time. I have yet to determine just how long. Mounted an OG Fuego with #12 Invizx, and took him for a spin. Brought along a rod for comparison; a 7’ MH-XF LTB with the same reel and line. Same bait; t-rigged Rage craw. I would like to say I caught a nice six pounder and the rod handled her perfectly, but, I was throwing my baits into ice cold chocolate milk. No bites at all. The Victory was a better caster than the LTB. Kinda expected that. One does not buy an XF action rod for it’s casting capability. No bites, no hooksets, so I can’t comment on that. The Victory is a bit more sensitive. I could feel the flapping of the craws claws better on the Victory, which was noticeably lighter in hand, and less tip heavy. I was using a 1/4oz weight which put the bait close to the lower end of it’s rated lure weight of 3/8oz. I suspect you could throw a 1/4 oz total weight bait with it. Did not test the upper end, which I never really do. now for some numbers. CCS numbers. With LTB numbers for comparison Victory 7’1” MH-F IP = 430g AA = 72° 7’ MH-XF LTB IP = 607g AA = 76° whoa! That’s a big difference. Had to double check both, and those are the numbers. Decided to test another 7’ M-F LTB. IP = 420g AA = 72° So, the medium heavy victory is almost identical to the medium LTB. Had to double check that as well. I also weighed all three. The Victory was the lightest, being about an ounce under the MH-XF LTB. Not listing the weights. I was using my old digital scale which is not accurate. It is consistent and repeatable. Just not absolutely on the money. Just realized I should explain those numbers. IP is intrinsic power. I higher number indicates a rod with more backbone AA is action angle. A higher number indicates a fast action. the numbers, in and of themselves mean nothing. IP has nothing to do with lure weight, line weights, drag settings or lifting power. Both number are the results of a specific, repeatable procedure, designed to provide numbers for comparison purposes. for more detail look here https://www.common-cents.info/ Most of us are aware that ST Croix underrates their rods. Their medium power is equivalent to most other’s medium heavy. Been that way for a while. Perhaps this a departure from past practice. Can’t make that assumption from only one data point. I’m looking forward to see the rest of the models in the Victory line. Eventually there will be 25 bass technique specific rods available. Oh yeah! 9 1 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 I was contemplating pulling the trigger on a Mojo Bass MHF baitcaster. Decisions, decisions... 1 Quote
Michigander Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 @.ghoti. Good review! Your aspersions toward my beloved Pac Bay Minima seats though... ? Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Hulkster said: awesome but their marketing team needs to be fired. no one knows what a grunt or marshal technique is. Of the LTB rods I have, one is called Sniper and one is called Teaser. Sounds to me like they are using a common past practice when naming rods. They will eventually have 25 models in the Victory lineup. Be interesting to see what the names will be, eh? Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted March 16, 2021 Author BassResource.com Administrator Posted March 16, 2021 I kinda like the names myself. I mean, bass fishing is filled with new and creative names: dropshot, ned, Jika, and free rig to name a few. And that's just rigs. Don't get me started with bait names. LOL! 1 1 Quote
Super User Teal Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 @.ghoti. awesome in depth review. Your knowledge of rods, rod building, components, and the crazy science that goes into it is an amazing asset to this site. 1 hour ago, .ghoti. said: Of the LTB rods I have, one is called Sniper and one is called Teaser. Sounds to me like they are using a common past practice when naming rods. They will eventually have 25 models in the Victory lineup. Be interesting to see what the names will be, eh? Their rods cant have crazier names that megabass. Lol 2 Quote
Deplorable Fisherman Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 St. Croix on March 20th 2021 1 5 Quote
Derek1 Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Deplorable Fisherman said: St. Croix on March 20th 2021 Lol Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 The thrill of Victory and the agony of da seat. The reel seat is a deal breaker for me. 1 2 Quote
GReb Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 If the 7’3 MH casting rod actually weighs 3.7 oz then I’m impressed and may have to try it. But then again I’ve been here numerous times and sold them all within months of purchasing. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 I'll be ordering the MLXF spinning. If I don't like the seat, I'll change it Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted March 16, 2021 Super User Posted March 16, 2021 Interested but will wait for/hoping a 7'6" to 8' ML model in spinning. I have 8' ML moderate Avid that weighs 3.6oz bought 2008. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 I just don’t get the split seat on any production rod. They’re such an acquired taste. The Eva spacer might save the day there. There’s never been anything wrong with ST Croix blanks, it was always the grip length that made people squawk about tip heaviness. It’s a trade off imo but this will serve the masses better. 4 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 17, 2021 Global Moderator Posted March 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Hulkster said: awesome but their marketing team needs to be fired. no one knows what a grunt or marshal technique is. Grunt: one who does routine unglamorous work. It's a 7' 1" MH/F jack of all trades rod. So the one that does all the routine, albeit maybe unglamorous work. Marshall is an arrangement of troops drawn up for battle. A 7' 3" MH/F rod certainly sounds like one that's ready for battle. Just a couple thoughts, but is the name of the rod really important? My Ned rig rod is actually a drop shot rod but it doesn't seem to matter despite what it says on the rod. 2 Quote
zell_pop1 Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: I just don’t get the split seat on any production rod. They’re such an acquired taste. The Eva spacer might save the day there. There’s never been anything wrong with ST Croix blanks, it was always the grip length that made people squawk about tip heaviness. It’s a trade off imo but this will serve the masses better. Exactly why I will not buy one, I just do not find split grips comfortable. The musky guys get a choice of split or classic grips from St Croix why not the Bass guys? 14 hours ago, Hulkster said: awesome but their marketing team needs to be fired. no one knows what a grunt or marshal technique Military names seem perfect for a rod series called victory. 2 Quote
waymont Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: it was always the grip length that made people squawk I was a squawker. 1 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 17, 2021 Super User Posted March 17, 2021 "There's talk on the street; it sounds so familiar Great expectations, everybody's watching you People you meet, they all seem to know you Even your old friends treat you like you're something new" . . A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 17, 2021 Super User Posted March 17, 2021 For those folks serious about checking this newest offering out in person, if you look hard enough, there's already a few being offered around the interwebz . . . Minus a couple headed my way. That's all I am permitted to say at this time. #verysneaky A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted March 17, 2021 Super User Posted March 17, 2021 17 hours ago, zell_pop1 said: The musky guys get a choice of split or classic grips from St Croix why not the Bass guys? The musky rods that give you a choice are $370 to over $400. I would imagine that if you offered to pay that much for a bass rod, that St. Croix might give you a choice of split grip or full grip, too! Give them a phone call and see. They're accessible. jj Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 17, 2021 Super User Posted March 17, 2021 The Victory series is designed to be great rods at an affordable price. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted March 17, 2021 Author BassResource.com Administrator Posted March 17, 2021 Alright guys, want to know where you can get the rods? Here you go (note, this is not all-inclusive.) Alabama The Tackle Trap 201 N Main St Boaz, AL 35957 Mark's Outdoors 1400 Montgomery Hwy, Vestivia Hills AL 35216 Alaska Arizona The Hook Up Tackle 8990 W Windsor Drive Peoria, AZ 85381 Arkansas Southern Reel Outfitters 14908 Cantrell Road Suite 2 Little Rock, AR 72223 California Outdoor Pro Shop 412 Houser Cotati, CA 94931 Tackle Technology 17821 South Ideal Parkway Manteca, CA 95336 Tackle Technology 17821 South Ideal Parkway Manteca, CA 95336 Tackle Technology 17821 South Ideal Parkway Manteca, CA 95336 East County Bait & Tackle 10137 Maine Ave. Lakeside, CA 92040 Cope's Tackle and Rod Shop 1654 Calloway Drive Bakersfield, CA 93312 Colorado Discount Fishing Tackle 2645 South Santa Fe Drive Denver, CO 80223 Scheels Johnstown, CO Scheels Colorado Springs, CO Connecticut Fisherman's World 2 Fort Point St East Norwalk, CT 06855 Delaware Florida Brooker Bait and Tackle 1351 A West North BLVD. Leesburg, FL 34748 Georgia Summerland Outdoors 1290 Double Churches Road Suite N Columbus, GA 31904 Kennesaw Bait Co 1475 Field Park Circle Marietta, GA 30066 Hammonds Fishing 4235 Browns Bridge Rd, Cumming GA 30041 Bass Pro Shops Lawrenceville, GA Hawaii Idaho Illinois Dave's Bait and Tackle 4419 Route 176 Crystal Lake, IL 60014 Scheels Springfield, IL Bass Pro Shops Bolingbrook, IL Cabelas/Bass Pro Hoffman Estates, IL Indiana The Angler 7430 South SR327 Hudson, IN 46747 Tackle Shack 303 N Main Street Middleburym IN 46540 Honey Creek Tackle 2380 N state Road. 135 Bargersville, IN 46106 Iowa Hanks Live Bait & Tackle 186 W 15th St Waterloo, IA 50702 Scheels Des Moines, IA Kansas Kentucky Bypass Bait and Tackle 2385 Bypass Flemingsburg, KY 41041 Louisiana Maine Kittery Traiding Post 301 US Route 1 Kittery, ME 03904 Maryland Angler's Sport Center 1456 Whitehall Road Annapolis, MD 21409 Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Joe's Sporting Goods 33 East County Road B St. Paul, MN 55117 Thornes Bros 10091 Central Ave NE Blaine, MN 55434 Omnia Fishing Inc 6150 Olson Memorial Highway Golden Valley, MN 55422 Scheels St. Cloud, MN Scheels Eden Prairie, MN Scheels Rochester, MN Cabelas/Bass Pro Rogers,MN Mississippi Missouri Rogers Sporting Goods 1760 N Church Road Liberty, MO 64068 Dunn's Sporting Goods 8733 Commercial BLVD Pevely, MO 63070 Bass Pro Shops Springfield, MO Bass Pro Shops St Charles, MO Montana Nebraska Scheels Omaha, NE Scheels Lincoln, NE Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey Tackle World 174 Route 17 North Rochelle Park, NJ 07662 Ramsey Outdoors 835 State Route 17 S Ramsey, NJ 07446 Tackle Direct 6825 Tilton Road, BLDG C Egg Harbor TWP, NJ 08234 New Mexico New York J&H Tackle 4112 Sunrise HWY Oakdale, NY 11769 North Carolina Bass Pro Shops Concord, NC North Dakota Scheels Fargo, ND Ohio Fisherman's Central LLC 4070 East Harbor Road Port Clinton, OH 43452 Fin, Feather, Fur 816 Clark Ave. Ashland, OH 44805 Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Susquehanna Fishing 3992 Locust Grove Road Columbia, PA 17512 Fish USA 6960 West Ridge Rd, Fairview PA 16415 Rhode Island South Carolina Palmetto State Armory 3760 Fernandina Road Columbia, SC 29210 South Dakota Scheels Sioux Falls, SD Tennessee Bass Pro Shops Kodak, TN Bass Pro Shops Nashville, TN Texas Fun and Sun Sports Center 320 W Hurst BLVD. Hurst, TX 76053 Fishin' World 4402 West Lovers Lane Dallas, TX 75209 Scheels The Colony, TX Bass Pro Shops Grapevine, TX Utah Vermont Virginia Green Top Sporting Goods 10150 Lakeridge Pkwy Ashland, VA 23005 Washington West Virginia Ohio River Outdoors 13520 Emerson Ave Williamstown, WV 26187 Wisconsin Dick Smith 2420 Milwaukee Ave Delafield, WI 53018 Wyoming Canada Fishing World 2411 Barton St E Hamilton, ON L8E 2W9 J.B's Fishing Depot 24 Ronson Drive Unit 6 Toronto, ON M9W 1B4 Ramakko's Tackle World 2345 Regent St Sudbury, ON P3E 6K7 Ami Sports 738 Boulvard Labelle Blainville, QC J7C 2K3 3 Quote
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