Bps patriot rod

[weemofisher]

Does anyone know who is making this blank? I thought I heard NFC at one time but I've also seen St Croix mentioned. Curious to hear any thoughts/feedback on this rod

[dodgeguy]

Where do people get this information? All I know is its an awesome Baitcasting rod.

[Eric 26]

I’m curious as to why it matters who’s manufacturing rods or reels for anyone else. I personally don’t care if doyo made my Revo x I’m happy or who made  my bps carbonlite 2.0 rod same thing I’m happy with my purchase. Beyond company reputation what does it matter who made it, bps is handling the warranty. I’m not trying to be ignorant I’m honestly curious.

[roadwarrior]

Quality control is the issue. 

[Eric 26]

2 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

Quality control is the issue. 

I respect and appreciate the response, but my thought is unless you’re ordering from a catalog would you not inspect it before purchase? And as I stated bps is handling the warranty.

[MN Fisher]

9 minutes ago, Eric 26 said:

I respect and appreciate the response, but my thought is unless you’re ordering from a catalog would you not inspect it before purchase? And as I stated bps is handling the warranty.

If you know who actually makes the rod for them, it's a more informed choice.

[jimmyjoe]

   If I ask a question and people avoid answering it, or want to know why I want to know that, it raises alarm bells for me. YMMV      jj

[optimator]

If I know for sure a rebranded rod is built on a NFC or SC blank I'll buy it over a China sweat shop rod all day long. 

[weemofisher]

22 minutes ago, optimator said:

If I know for sure a rebranded rod is built on a NFC or SC blank I'll buy it over a China sweat shop rod all day long. 

Exactly

[dodgeguy]

3 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

   If I ask a question and people avoid answering it, or want to know why I want to know that, it raises alarm bells for me. YMMV      jj

Ok that's cool. But it took 15 years before we found out who makes Lews reels.   I guess their reputation wasn't enough ? BPS PATRIOT RODS have some of the best reviews out there as far as positive to negative. They also have a 10 year warranty. Yeah it would be nice to know who makes the blanks but I've heard so many different answers to that question over the years who knows what to believe? I'll go by the reputation they are building on their own and my experience with the 2 I own.

[weemofisher]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

Ok that's cool. But it took 15 years before we found out who makes Lews reels.   I guess their reputation wasn't enough ? BPS PATRIOT RODS have some of the best reviews out there as far as positive to negative. They also have a 10 year warranty. Yeah it would be nice to know who makes the blanks but I've heard so many different answers to that question over the years who knows what to believe? I'll go by the reputation they are building on their own and my experience with the 2 I own.

I really didn't find much in the way of reviews when I searched

[dodgeguy]

Check there website. More positive review percentages than most rods. I have 2 of the baitcasters. 6-6 medium and 7 medium. Both light and sensitive . plenty of strength and backbone but still have flex. They are really well balanced also. Have sic Fuji guides which is awesome at that price range.

[jimmyjoe]

47 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

But it took 15 years before we found out who makes Lews reels. 

 

   Interesting. Which 15 years was that?

 

57 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

 I guess their reputation wasn't enough ?

 

   Reputations tell a person what happened yesterday, not today. Today's world can change overnight. Literally. That's one of the reasons people ask question nowadays.

 

7 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Check there website

 

    I hate to be a wet blanket, but I don't trust ANY company's reviews that are on their website. Not fishing equipment, not cars, not clothes and not anything else.

   Guess I'm just an old curmudgeon.            jj 

[dodgeguy]

Before somebody found out doyo made Lews I had heard all kinds of incorrect speculation for years.

Bass pro prints plenty of bad reviews of their products. If you're gonna be that skeptical all you can do is buy it and try it.

[jimmyjoe]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

all you can do is buy it and try it.

 

   Exactly! I agree 100%!   ??          JJ

[GreenPig]

No idea who makes the blank. Would like to check one out but my local BPS has never had one in the store.

[Eric 26]

5 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Interesting. Which 15 years was that?

 

 

   Reputations tell a person what happened yesterday, not today. Today's world can change overnight. Literally. That's one of the reasons people ask question nowadays.

 

 

    I hate to be a wet blanket, but I don't trust ANY company's reviews that are on their website. Not fishing equipment, not cars, not clothes and not anything else.

   Guess I'm just an old curmudgeon.            jj 

I hate to sound argumentative but bps reputation at least for warranties on their products has been solid for many years, as far as reviews isn’t this the reason for asking the question in the first place, to get feedback from the members on this site who do or did own the product in question which in this case is a two part question who manufactures the blank and what is the feedback on this particular rod. 

[Eric 26]

8 hours ago, BaitFinesse said:

Knowing what you have.  It's easy to take a very  cheap thing, rebadge it and then charge a 500% price increase to people who don't know any better.  Doyo makes a solid product.  I would have no problem owning a Doyo as some other brand and have done so in the past.   

 

The problem is when a cheap thing is passed off as a much more expensive thing ans this does happen when rebranding OEM reels.  Look at the reels below.  One in a $25 reel and the other is a $150 reel and are clearly based on the same platform.  Or the ZPI Alcalance that turned out to be a $300 BPS Bionic Plus.  

Point taken very well said.

[jimmyjoe]

9 hours ago, Eric 26 said:

I hate to sound argumentative but bps reputation at least for warranties on their products has been solid for many years, as far as reviews isn’t this the reason for asking the question in the first place, to get feedback from the members on this site who do or did own the product in question which in this case is a two part question who manufactures the blank and what is the feedback on this particular rod. 

 

   That's a good point regarding the warranties. However, I think we have two different issues here.

 

   1) You (and others) have stated that you don't care who makes your reel or rod, only that it performs to your expectations and is backed by warranty. That's fine. You have every right to spend your money the way you please, and no one, not I or anyone else, should tell you how to spend it or where to spend it.

   I have the same right. The only difference between you and me is that I would like to know some things about the gear I'm buying. Is it life and death? No, of course it's not. Sometimes, it's no more than idle curiosity. I'd just like to know.

   However ....... when I get a runaround for an answer, or I get conflicting answers, or I get a counter-question such as, "Why do you want to know that?", then like I said, alarms bells go off for me. To me, that sort of reaction implies that someone is trying to hide something.

   I don't like that. I think there are others who don't like it either.

   The first two posts after the OP were of that nature. Dismissive. Denigrating. The implication seemed to be that the OP had no right to ask that question.

   Of course he has the right to ask that question.

 

   2) After that, issues were raised that had NOTHING to do with the OP's question. For instance, he asked about rods, not reels. And timeframes for this or that had nothing to do with the OP's question, either.

 

   And you are correct that the OP was asking for feedback from members here. Being told that reviews on the company website should be a major factor in his decision does not contribute to that. I'm sure that he's capable of reading those himself, and of trusting them if he so chooses. 

   As for me, I don't trust them. Like I said, maybe that means that I'm just an old curmudgeon. That's why I included that as a disclaimer.

 

   I went fishing yesterday. I had fun. I'm going fishing tomorrow.  I expect to have fun. When you go fishing, I hope you have fun.  ?

 

                           jj

 

 

  

  

  

 

  

  

  

  

  

[weemofisher]

Yes, I was looking for 2 things 

#1 solid info on who makes the rod to help make informed decision.

#2 real world tod in hand experience from members here. In both fishing and golf ( my others obsession) I find that members of forums such as this are more diehard and many are gear junkies so I value those opinions. I give ZERO credence to reviews posted to a companies website

 

 

[weemofisher]

I actually think the patriot might POTENTIALLY be a great fit but just wanted more info before paying basically the same price as a zodias or avid...both of which seem to come highly recommend here. 

[Shimano_1]

If you don't have the answer to the guys question why even reply?  He didn't ask who cared about who makes it.  He asked who made it as we all know it wasn't basspro. Sorry bud but I have no clue myself and appears maybe no one does. Likely a nice rod but if manufacturers matter maybe better off looking elsewhere. The few things I've heard or read about the rod have been positive and I've always had pretty good luck with their rods myself. 

[dodgeguy]

2 hours ago, weemofisher said:

Yes, I was looking for 2 things 

#1 solid info on who makes the rod to help make informed decision.

#2 real world tod in hand experience from members here. In both fishing and golf ( my others obsession) I find that members of forums such as this are more diehard and many are gear junkies so I value those opinions. I give ZERO credence to reviews posted to a companies website

 

 

I'm probably one of the few on here who owns a couple. BPS rods are not a hot brand on this forum .All I can tell you is I love both of mine.

[roadwarrior]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

I'm probably one of the few on here who owns a couple. BPS rods are not a hot brand on this forum .All I can tell you is I love both of mine.

 

An opinion you can count on from a man you can trust.

[webertime]

So from what I read of their description the rod is made in USA but doesn't say where the components come from (ie American Blank?).  Knowing the supply chain issues etc., I'd bet my life it's overseas components/blank built into a rod in the US.