Need a new high end stick

[Matt_3479]

So I’m looking to replace 1 rod in my Arsenal this year as last year I upgraded pretty much everything else. A few spinning reels need upgrading as well so that’s my focus this season. 
 

I currently have a 13 fishing envy black 7’6” heavy that I’m looking at upgrading. I’d like to use use this rod for a few techniques if possible but mainly will have a creature tied on for flipping. It might do a little Caroline rigging as well. Looking at trying another megabass but open to options in the loomis, and shimano expride series 
 

current line up consists of;

 

- glx 822dsr drop shot 

- expride 7’ lite plus for neds mainly 

- nrx 852s main spinning set up 

 

-glx 852c tubes mainly 

-nrx 853c a lot of senko work and jigs around docks 

-glx 894c main jig rig 

- expride 7’2” med heavy moving back rod (chatter, paddle tail, spinner baits)

-imx pro 845cbr squarebill rod 

-imx pro 884 frog rod 

- orochi xx launcher deep crank 

 

this new rod will replace my creature baits flipping, Carolina rigs etc.

 

 

[freelancer27]

Whats ur budget? Any brand preferences? What lure weight do you want to throw?

[Michigander]

Maybe go custom?

[Matt_3479]

18 minutes ago, freelancer27 said:

Whats ur budget? Any brand preferences? What lure weight do you want to throw?

I don’t want to go custom but didn’t really think about budget. I’d like to throw comfortably in the 1 1/2oz range with trailers. Not something I do a bunch but don’t want to feel like it’s going break when I do 

[SproDD79]

I would consider the Shimano Poison Adrena Casting Rod 7'4" Heavy.

[freelancer27]

When you are talking about 1.5oz one should consider an extra heavy. 

 

For that technique i personally us a Daiwa Steez AGS 7'9 XH. 

 

There more affordable options available. Shimano exprides are a decent buy. 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

8 hours ago, Matt_3479 said:

I currently have a 13 fishing envy black 7’6” heavy that I’m looking at upgrading.

You dont like the envy?

[Matt_3479]

7 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

You dont like the envy?

It’s okay, I just feel for the money they aren’t worth it. Sloppy quality control mainly. I have a buddy who would like it so I figured I could upgrade 

7 hours ago, freelancer27 said:

When you are talking about 1.5oz one should consider an extra heavy. 

 

For that technique i personally us a Daiwa Steez AGS 7'9 XH. 

 

There more affordable options available. Shimano exprides are a decent buy. 

inwas looking at megabass and shimano mainly but hear awesome things about the ags guides. 
 

the main weights being thrown will be 1/2-1oz as our vegetation isn’t nearly as heavy. I wanted the 1 1/2oz to be able to get down to the depths fast on the Carolina rig and the odd like that’s heavy veg 

[roadwarrior]

11 hours ago, Michigander said:

Maybe go custom?

 

http://www.delawarevalleytackle.com/

[new2BC4bass]

11 hours ago, freelancer27 said:

Whats ur budget? Any brand preferences? What lure weight do you want to throw?

Expride runs $260-$300.  Megabass $200-$500 depending on line.  So a very nice budget.

 

OP, Witch Doctor makes some nice rods.  Maybe an Oracle?  Rated 1/2-2 oz.  I expect the Hydrilla Gorilla would be too heavy.  1-6oz.

 

Have never thrown that heavy of weight.  Plus rods you are looking at are out of my budget unless a good used deal comes along.  Which is how I got my Shaman.  Little less that 50% of original price. 

 

Th Orochi XX Launcher is rated 3/8-2 oz.  I expect a rod rated to 2 oz.  would be better than one rated to 1-1/2 oz.  However, I know there are rods that can easily handle over their rating just like there are rods that don't handle maximum rating well at all.  I own both cases.  That is why reviews and opinions from users on here (and other dedicated fishing forums) is a huge help in deciding on which rod to get.  I'm not one that can help in this particular instance.

[FishTank]

I was recently looking at buying about the same type of rod you are and ended up with the Megabass P5 Super Destroyer.  It is shorter than most flip/pitch rods but I kind of like it that way.  The guy I usually fish with stays so close to the bank that longer rods are sometimes an issue.  

 

Another rod that I took a hard look at was the St. Croix Legend Elite 7'4'' H Fast.  It is a heavy duty rod but some how balanced.  I have a couple LE and wanted to try something different so the Megabass fit the bill.  This rod sounds more like it may fit your needs better. 

 

[Matt_3479]

I was thinking of trying the bunker buster but it’s only rated too 1.2 oz. it’s more then heavy enough, but I wanted to throw the 1.5oz on the Carolina in deep water. 
 

another thought was 7’6” xh expride, 905c mbr conquest (hard to find and maybe top my budget, so still thinking on that one), 

[freelancer27]

On 2/27/2021 at 7:22 AM, FishTank said:

I was recently looking at buying about the same type of rod you are and ended up with the Megabass P5 Super Destroyer.  It is shorter than most flip/pitch rods but I kind of like it that way.  The guy I usually fish with stays so close to the bank that longer rods are sometimes an issue.  

 

Another rod that I took a hard look at was the St. Croix Legend Elite 7'4'' H Fast.  It is a heavy duty rod but some how balanced.  I have a couple LE and wanted to try something different so the Megabass fit the bill.  This rod sounds more like it may fit your needs better. 

 

I have the St. Croix Legend Elite 7'4h. It is agreat rod, but in my opinion, the tip is too soft for throwing heavy jigs (in cover). I use it as a moving bait rod for spinner and chatterbaits. 

If you can wait. Maybe wait till the end of March, when the new NRX are rumored to be announced'.  I would then get the equivilant of the 905/895 (that is hopefully better balanced) and be done with it

[Angry John]

Sounds like someone who needs a white python ?

[928JLH]

Taipan Rods https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/rodcast.html?from=basres

[Ski]

Have you looked @ Lews KVD series? Price point is $99.99 23 sizes, several bait specific choices.

https://www.lews.com/rods/kvd

[softwateronly]

I grabbed the 7'7" expride Heavy/Mod Fast this winter.  While looking for opinions online, it seems to not be talked about much, but that 7'6" XH was almost completely missing from the places I searched.  Sorry I have nothing to offer, just would love to hear what you think about whatever you choose.  Best of luck!

 

scott

[Matt_3479]

On 3/1/2021 at 11:23 AM, freelancer27 said:

I have the St. Croix Legend Elite 7'4h. It is agreat rod, but in my opinion, the tip is too soft for throwing heavy jigs (in cover). I use it as a moving bait rod for spinner and chatterbaits. 

If you can wait. Maybe wait till the end of March, when the new NRX are rumored to be announced'.  I would then get the equivilant of the 905/895 (that is hopefully better balanced) and be done with it

I didn’t know the nrx was rumored to come out! I do love my nrx

[RDB]

I spoke with G.Loomis last week and they said there were no rod changes coming.  I can’t confirm or deny...just sharing what they told me.
 

I don’t know what you think about Kistler but I have had a number of Helium and Z-Bones over the years and they are light, sensitive rods.  The 5 powers are rated up to 1 1/2 oz and have lengths up to 7’6” (7’10” on the Helium).  They always have sales...I think typically between 25-40% based on $ spent.

 

If you need something heavier, I think these are rated up to 10 oz.

 

[freelancer27]

2 hours ago, RDB said:

I spoke with G.Loomis last week and they said there were no rod changes coming.  I can’t confirm or deny...just sharing what they told me.
 

I don’t know what you think about Kistler but I have had a number of Helium and Z-Bones over the years and they are light, sensitive rods.  The 5 powers are rated up to 1 1/2 oz and have lengths up to 7’6” (7’10” on the Helium).  They always have sales...I think typically between 25-40% based on $ spent.

 

If you need something heavier, I think these are rated up to 10 oz.

 

With whom did you talk? Their guys on the call lines dont know much. Bit i know from a big retailer that their announcement is not too far out. 

[Gazz]

Check out the Megabass Destroyer P5 Tequila Baccarac. Very high end rod that can actually do a ton of things well. I don’t have personal experience with it but have heard amazing things. 

[RDB]

4 hours ago, freelancer27 said:

With whom did you talk? Their guys on the call lines dont know much. Bit i know from a big retailer that their announcement is not too far out. 

Who knows...I was told by the person handling my warranty replacement that my rod was ready and would be released in the first batch but that it would be the same.  Could a new rod still drop in March...sure.  Could it be delayed...no clue.  Could it be at ICAST...who knows.  Could they be surprising me with full Torzite and cork...one can hope.  What I do know is they approved the replacement in early Sept. and I’m tired of waiting.

[softwateronly]

7 hours ago, Gazz said:

Check out the Megabass Destroyer P5 Tequila Baccarac. Very high end rod that can actually do a ton of things well. I don’t have personal experience with it but have heard amazing things. 

 

I just bought one and can't wait till open water.  Absolute insane price to me, but the craftsmanship is remarkable and the versatility at that length was most appealing.  I figured my most expensive stick will fish the baits I enjoy the most, reactive glides, swimmers, frogs, big topwater, 6" soft swimbaits, big swimjigs, etc.

 

Hopefully, everything you and I heard is true!

 

scott

[scbassin]

I have a Dobyns Champion XP DC 736. It's a excellent rod & I use it for what you want it for. It will get them out of the thick stuff.