Michigander Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Anyone used one of the Fuji Palm Support reel seats? They look kind of neat and considering on the 7'10" pitching/punching rod I'm collecting parts for. If anyone has any recommendations for a great seat for this application and all day punching in general, I'm open to researching those too. Quote
Lead Head Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 I pretty much just use a fuji ecs on everything. Its pretty vanilla but super practical and comfortable for me. A reelseat is not something I want to dislike because replacing one is a nightmare. 1 Quote
Michigander Posted February 15, 2021 Author Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Lead Head said: I pretty much just use a fuji ecs on everything. Its pretty vanilla but super practical and comfortable for me. A reelseat is not something I want to dislike because replacing one is a nightmare. Yeah, the replacement aspect also makes me leery, it looks like a huge PITA. I've got my preferred reel seat in the Pac Bay Minima, but I'm feeling like experimenting this time with more of a technique optimized seat since this rod will only be pitching and punching. Quote
Lead Head Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 I understand the desire to experiment. I'm just simple. 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted February 15, 2021 Super User Posted February 15, 2021 One can never have too many rods. Build it. I'm confident you will not find it "bad." You may like others better, but they will work fine. Keep in mind that it's not "world peace." It's a reel seat. 1 Quote
Michigander Posted February 15, 2021 Author Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, MickD said: One can never have too many rods. Build it. I'm confident you will not find it "bad." You may like others better, but they will work fine. Keep in mind that it's not "world peace." It's a reel seat. You are correct about not having too many rods, lol. Well you know, with time and money being limited resources, I figure I should at least ask around before jumping in. ? Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted February 15, 2021 Super User Posted February 15, 2021 You are about to discover something. Your favorite seat, the pacbay minima, is arguably the least ergonomic, and most uncomfortable seat made. The other candidate for the most uncomfortable and least ergonomic is the Fuji SK. Many seem to put up with these traits to shave a few grams off the total rod weight. If that is what blows your skirts, I will not argue with you. But, what you are about to do is use one of the most comfortable and ergonomic seats made today. Ditto for the PTS casting seat. Both are heavier than either the SK or the Minima. But here’s the thing. Extra weight at the seat only makes a difference on the scale. It means nothing when you are fishing the rod. The extra comfort does mean something. You will like fishing with a rod built on this seat. 4 1 Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted February 15, 2021 Super User Posted February 15, 2021 No lie there @.ghoti., I never picked up a Minima or SK2 equipped rod that I liked. 3rd place for most uncomfortable is a Fuji ACS. 1 Quote
Michigander Posted February 15, 2021 Author Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, .ghoti. said: You are about to discover something. Your favorite seat, the pacbay minima, is arguably the least ergonomic, and most uncomfortable seat made. The other candidate for the most uncomfortable and least ergonomic is the Fuji SK. Many seem to put up with these traits to shave a few grams off the total rod weight. If that is what blows your skirts, I will not argue with you. But, what you are about to do is use one of the most comfortable and ergonomic seats made today. Ditto for the PTS casting seat. Both are heavier than either the SK or the Minima. But here’s the thing. Extra weight at the seat only makes a difference on the scale. It means nothing when you are fishing the rod. The extra comfort does mean something. You will like fishing with a rod built on this seat. That's an excellent vote for the PULS! Amusingly, I use the Pac Bay Minima because I find it to be very comfortable for the way I hold a rod. It was my favorite reel seat out of all my production rods so I was adding it to my custom rods. The weight savings were just a nice bonus. 1 hour ago, S Hovanec said: No lie there @.ghoti., I never picked up a Minima or SK2 equipped rod that I liked. 3rd place for most uncomfortable is a Fuji ACS. I don't care for the SK2 or ACS, but the Minima fits my hand really well. Everyone is different. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 6 hours ago, S Hovanec said: No lie there @.ghoti., I never picked up a Minima or SK2 equipped rod that I liked. 3rd place for most uncomfortable is a Fuji ACS. The ACS is a love it or hate it proposition. I’ve yet to hear anyone express ambivalence regarding them. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted February 16, 2021 Super User Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: The ACS is a love it or hate it proposition. I’ve yet to hear anyone express ambivalence regarding them. Absolutely right on the money. Put in the hate column. My all time favorite reel seat is the one used on most of Daiwa’s Light & Tough rods. If those were available, I would use nothing else for all my casting rods. 1 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted February 16, 2021 Super User Posted February 16, 2021 Never knew there was such emotion about the ACS. I don't seem to be sensitive to the casting seat design, have used a number including ACS, and never have felt that I had any real problems or dislikes. Count me # 1 for being ambivalent. 1 Quote
spoonplugger1 Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 The PULS seat was designed for Bluewater use with larger reels that would crowd your hand on a normal trigger reel seat. Fuji has had another without the exposed blank area for decades, some of the musky anglers are using them right now on their rods. Quote
Michigander Posted February 17, 2021 Author Posted February 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, spoonplugger1 said: The PULS seat was designed for Bluewater use with larger reels that would crowd your hand on a normal trigger reel seat. Fuji has had another without the exposed blank area for decades, some of the musky anglers are using them right now on their rods. Thankfully they offer a size 17 now. Size 18-20 would have been too much for what I am doing but 17 seems fine. What's the other one you mentioned? If it doesn't need an insert, I would like to research that one too. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted February 17, 2021 Super User Posted February 17, 2021 Check out the Fuji TCSM. Quote
Michigander Posted February 17, 2021 Author Posted February 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, .ghoti. said: Check out the Fuji TCSM. I have those on some rods, they're fine. Quote
spoonplugger1 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 PSLLD 20 mm, and the PLSSD smaller size. Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 21, 2021 Super User Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 12:45 PM, S Hovanec said: No lie there @.ghoti., I never picked up a Minima or SK2 equipped rod that I liked. 3rd place for most uncomfortable is a Fuji ACS. I'm kind of crazy about the ACS seats. I have them on several of my personal rods. Love em! Quote
Super User MickD Posted February 21, 2021 Super User Posted February 21, 2021 I may be missing something; what is the difference between a size 16 and 17 casting trigger seat? It's only the hole for the blank, isn't it? Then bigger than 17, what are the differences? On cast I've never used anything but a 16, but I haven't designed for reels bigger than line counters or really large diameter blanks, either. Quote
Michigander Posted February 21, 2021 Author Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, MickD said: I may be missing something; what is the difference between a size 16 and 17 casting trigger seat? It's only the hole for the blank, isn't it? Then bigger than 17, what are the differences? On cast I've never used anything but a 16, but I haven't designed for reels bigger than line counters or really large diameter blanks, either. I'm not 100% either but I will find out when it gets here. Many of the rear grips advertise that they fit standard 16 and 17 size reel seats so I should be ok. The size 17 may explain the need for an insert. Quote
spoonplugger1 Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 The reel seat parts all get larger as the size goes up and they get longer also, the reel's foot also gets longer and wider as the reel gets larger. Abu's round reels to 6500 use the same size foot as their smaller bass reels, 7000 and larger, the larger reel foot found on their deep sea reels. A size 20 mm trigger reel seat will fit both the bass and larger size reels so I use them on rods that could have either, for instance an Abu 6500, or the larger foot found on the Shimano Tekota, either are popular salmon/musky/catfish/etc. reels. The 20 mm also usually fits on all the graphite, composite, and glass blanks I build on. If I feel the need for a blank exposed reel seat larger than 17 mm, I build one out of a non-exposed trigger reel seat, takes 15 minutes, or so. Quote
Super User MickD Posted February 23, 2021 Super User Posted February 23, 2021 19 hours ago, spoonplugger1 said: reel seat parts all get larger as the size goes up does the diameter at the grip interface get larger? Quote
spoonplugger1 Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 Grip interface is the same for 20 mm and smaller reel seats. Quote
Michigander Posted March 1, 2021 Author Posted March 1, 2021 Got the PULS seat in the mailbox today. I did a quick test fit with the reel and my hand. I was expecting to have to hold it differently but my normal grip of two fingers in front of the trigger and two behind fit fine. Its certainly different than the Minima skeleton seats I have been building on, lol. Quote
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