huZZah Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 8:49 AM, Catt said: This isn't a team sport, it's a individual sport, & sometimes ya gotta cut your losses & move on to the next tournament. Same as resting players when teams have made playoffs. People get so angry when the coach is thinking long term. Fans are so funny. You haven’t asked him why he didn’t weigh, but you have no problem dropping him cause he “could” cost you fantasy prize money? FANTASY. Lol. I don’t recall him calling saying “go with me and you’ll win that FANTASY pool.” 2 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Super User Posted February 19, 2021 *Could you just imagine the expression on Rick Clunn's face if interviewed about the finer points of fantasy fishing ?!? 1 1 Quote
detroit1 Posted February 20, 2021 Posted February 20, 2021 He's a grown man and makes his own decisions. Maybe one of you butthurts could ask him why. Although i agree not crossing the stage would be very disappointing for those watching. Ya wanna see your heroes. Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 Its not just about fantasy fishing its about people traveling to a big tournament to see there favorite angler only to have him dump his fish and not even show up. So yeah this is an individual sport but how do most of these guys make there money? Sponsors...lure deals you know that stuff. Why do companies back them? Because they sell product for these companies. Who buys said products? Fans...you know the people who show up at ...oh...I'm not sure...for arguments sake lets say...um..maybe an elite series weigh in. 2 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 I would say if people travel to a tournament to watch one guy walk across a stage with a couple fish, maybe they should sit down and think about their life for a minute. 3 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: I would say if people travel to a tournament to watch one guy walk across a stage with a couple fish, maybe they should sit down and think about their life for a minute. Is it any different then driving to a concert to hear a couple songs? How about traveling across country to go on a fishing trip and not catching crap? If that happens should you come home sell your boat and your gear and get a real hobby that always has a determined outcome. Passion is passion...some people love to fish...some people love watching tournaments just like any sporting event and follow there favorite "players"... some people like crocheting or playing chess or whatever. Just because there priorities don't line up with yours doesn't mean they are wrong. 4 Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 Hey guys, even the great Mickie Mantel struck out a few times. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, DitchPanda said: Is it any different then driving to a concert to hear a couple songs? How about traveling across country to go on a fishing trip and not catching crap? If that happens should you come home sell your boat and your gear and get a real hobby that always has a determined outcome. Passion is passion...some people love to fish...some people love watching tournaments just like any sporting event and follow there favorite "players"... some people like crocheting or playing chess or whatever. Just because there priorities don't line up with yours doesn't mean they are wrong. Where to start? Comparing watching a guy weigh in a couple fish versus watching a 2 hour concert, not quite apples to apples. I have no idea how comparing a fishing trip where one is actively partaking even remotely compares. 2 minutes ago, Sam said: Hey guys, even the great Mickie Mantel struck out a few times. But wait, if you traveled to see him, shouldn't he have hit a HR every at bat? He owes it to YOU. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, jbsoonerfan said: Where to start? Comparing watching a guy weigh in a couple fish versus watching a 2 hour concert, not quite apples to apples. I have no idea how comparing a fishing trip where one is actively partaking even remotely compares. But wait, if you traveled to see him, shouldn't he have hit a HR every at bat? He owes it to YOU. Only saw him one time in Kansas City when I was a kid. Don't remember if he got a hit or not but it was fantastic to see the great Yankee team. Quote
Super User gim Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 Does anyone know specifically WHY he didn’t show up to the weigh in? Obviously he only had a couple drinks so he didn’t weigh them but as far as I can tell no one actually knows why he didn’t show up. It’s pure speculation. Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 10 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said: Where to start? Comparing watching a guy weigh in a couple fish versus watching a 2 hour concert, not quite apples to apples. I have no idea how comparing a fishing trip where one is actively partaking even remotely compares. But wait, if you traveled to see him, shouldn't he have hit a HR every at bat? He owes it to YOU. Point I was making is to you that drive just to see your guy walk onstage is dumb but to some people its just as important as a big concert or fishing trip...maybe they grew up idolizing a certain guy because he was there grandpas or dads favorite and now they finally have the chance to see him and he doesn't show up when he is able to so they are let down or ticked. Its not up to you to decide if its the same in importance for someone else. Now I will add that I agree with you in that I wouldn't drive that far to see one guy but I wouldn't think anything less of someone who did. Now the Mickey Mantle thing...he doesn't owe you a homerun. But if he is able to play he owes it to everybody..fans,teammates...to play that's what his contract is for 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, gimruis said: Does anyone know specifically WHY he didn’t show up to the weigh in? Obviously he only had a couple drinks so he didn’t weigh them but as far as I can tell no one actually knows why he didn’t show up. It’s pure speculation. Because he was in last place anyways it was meaningless to him . I know of two other times hes done it , probably done it more than that. He finishes near the bottom so often that weighing in a couple of dinks is not going to boost his angler of the year standings so why bother . Quote
Super User gim Posted February 20, 2021 Super User Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, scaleface said: Because he was in last place anyways it was meaningless to him That’s what he specifically said? He said “I’m in last place and weighing in 2 dinks is meaningless.” I’d like a source please if you have one. Quote
huZZah Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 13 hours ago, gimruis said: Does anyone know specifically WHY he didn’t show up to the weigh in? Obviously he only had a couple drinks so he didn’t weigh them but as far as I can tell no one actually knows why he didn’t show up. It’s pure speculation. To wrong the fantasy fishing people. He told me in a dream. 1 Quote
OCdockskipper Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 5:50 PM, detroit1 said: He's a grown man and makes his own decisions. Maybe one of you butthurts could ask him why. That is uncalled for, no need to insult people who have a different perspective than you. 2 Quote
OCdockskipper Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 9:23 PM, jbsoonerfan said: I would say if people travel to a tournament to watch one guy walk across a stage with a couple fish, maybe they should sit down and think about their life for a minute. I don't think anyone does that, however getting the opportunity to see a person who is legendary in their craft is a part of the overall experience of going to a weigh-in. I traveled from Southern California to Houston, Texas to see the Day 1 of the 2017 Classic. I have a sister who lives in Austin, so it made sense to visit her as well as take in an event that has never been that close to me geographically since the 1st one at Lake Mead. It was something I wanted to experience, not something that gave an insight to any deficiencies you or anyone else believe my life might have. Bottom line, the issue is one that Rick Clunn has with performing poorly. It is a "him" problem, don't try to pin it on those who attend the weigh-ins. 1 Quote
livin2fish Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 9:49 AM, Catt said: Y'all kidding right ? Ya think he should abuse his equipment, abuse his tackle, & abuse his body, so y'all can gain a few points in a "Fantasy" game! This isn't a team sport, it's a individual sport, & sometimes ya gotta cut your losses & move on to the next tournament. Well said. Quote
wdp Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 6:47 PM, OCdockskipper said: It might be something about older folks in the public eye. I have met both Clunn and Doyle "Texas Dolly" Brunson in the past decade and both were very gruff & short. I didn't ask for an autograph, picture or any of their time. For Brunson, I just started to open a door for him at the WSOP (he was using his crutch at the time) and was met with a sharp "Don't, I got it". For Clunn, I was talking with Trip Weldon at BassFest when Clunn came up to ask Trip something. When he was done, Rick looked at me & I said "Good luck tomorrow". He just gave me a blank look and walked away. Maybe they are just grumpy old men... I’ve met Rick Clunn twice now, both times at local Bass Pro Shops. I found him very nice, pleasant and accommodating. We spoke at length both times & after a few minutes, you really do get a sense of his Zen like approach to bass fishing. We all get in a rush at times, maybe he was super busy and that was the reason for his abruptness. And then, heck, I’m only 53 and I get grumpy at times. ? 1 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 21, 2021 Super User Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, wdp said: I’ve met Rick Clunn twice now, both times at local Bass Pro Shops. I found him very nice, pleasant and accommodating. We spoke at length both times & after a few minutes, you really do get a sense of his Zen like approach to bass fishing. We all get in a rush at times, maybe he was super busy and that was the reason for his abruptness. And then, heck, I’m only 53 and I get grumpy at times. ? No doubt everybody gets grumpy. Its just unfortunate when you meet a hero and that happens to be on a crabby day for them. Quote
huZZah Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, DitchPanda said: No doubt everybody gets grumpy. Its just unfortunate when you meet a hero and that happens to be on a crabby day for them. Maybe the lesson is more about remembering they’re people too. Everyone has a bad day, everyone gets petty, everyone has failures. I’m sure anyone used to success finds failure overly harsh. I’ve met some “Titans” in my field that are absolute jerks. I was shocked until I remembered not everyone is as awesome as they seem in my head. Same is true the other way. Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 21, 2021 Super User Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, huZZah said: Maybe the lesson is more about remembering they’re people too. Everyone has a bad day, everyone gets petty, everyone has failures. I’m sure anyone used to success finds failure overly harsh. I’ve met some “Titans” in my field that are absolute jerks. I was shocked until I remembered not everyone is as awesome as they seem in my head. Same is true the other way. Well yeah I mean everyone is aware that we all have our problems and shortcomings. But if you've admired someone forever and the one chance you have to meet them they are a jerk no matter how subjectively you look at it and tell yourself it isn't personal it would still be hard to not be let down and let that color your perspective of that person at least a little. Have a buddy that loves Bob Dylan...saw him in concert a few years back said he was awful and not very friendly and wishes he never saw him. I guess I still hold people accountable for there actions even when they have failures they are dealing with. If I get reprimand at work for making mistakes that doesnt give me the right to be a jerk to the guys on my crew and just blame it on something that has nothing to do with them. Quote
huZZah Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 I gotcha. I certainly don’t feel bad for any professional anything that claims they don’t like the fame or pressure or whatever. You like it just fine when you’re winning... Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 21, 2021 Super User Posted February 21, 2021 I am sure Clunn had high expectations and his game plan didn’t work out. If you target big bass it’s risky but the awards are worth it. Hero or zero. Tom Quote
OCdockskipper Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 4 hours ago, wdp said: I’ve met Rick Clunn twice now, both times at local Bass Pro Shops. I found him very nice, pleasant and accommodating... Thinking about what you wrote, the difference might have been the environment. The examples I gave were when the "legends" were in competition, just before or at the beginning of an event. They were most likely in a different mindset than when you met Clunn and his focus was on, well, meeting people. I know I am a jerk if I am focused on something and someone tries to engage me in a conversation that distracts me. Then again, I'm a jerk even if I'm not focused on something... Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted February 22, 2021 Super User Posted February 22, 2021 I'll give him the benefit of the doubt just because I like the man. I don't play fantasy anything. Quote
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