Jaderose Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Like I'm sure a lot on here, I just got the Bass Pro Master Catalog in the mail. Does it seem to anyone else that they (the manufacturers) are sure trying to cash in on "Ned" fishing? Lol.....for goodness sakes, I guess you can make a small version of anything these days and call it "Ned". I also think it's funny that you can buy a Yum Dinger or basically any of the regular stickbaits that they have clearly just cut in half or in 3rds for the same price as the regular sizes but they say "Ned" on them. I got nothing against the technique but I'm pretty sure most of it now ain't what ol Ned Kehde was doing. Not slamming anyone that loves the technique but just laughing at the fact that we fishermen are sure a gullible lot! 3 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted February 6, 2021 Super User Posted February 6, 2021 Fishermen have been "jigworm" fishing for several generations now... oe 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted February 6, 2021 Super User Posted February 6, 2021 Years ago a guy told me about fishing Lake St Clair with a green "stick" about 3 1/2 inches long, made by a local MI company. It was all he used, only the one color. It looked just like a Ned. One feature of the Elaztech Ned is its buoyancy, which I don't think the others have. The success of cut off longer sticks and the product mentioned above indicate that buoyancy may not be that important. 1 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 6, 2021 Super User Posted February 6, 2021 Yep kinda funny that you can buy a 3in dinger 12pk for $2.99. Ned dingers are also 3in for $2.99 but only 8pk. 2 Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted February 6, 2021 Super User Posted February 6, 2021 Yep it goes full circle. Quote
Deeare Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Fisherman are definitely gullible and I have made some dum purchases over the years but I have a lot of success with the ned rig. A pack of zman trds are only $4 and one pack last a long time. I can catch at least 10 times more fish with a bag of trds vs a bag of senkos. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted February 6, 2021 Super User Posted February 6, 2021 If I fished lakes similar to those that Ned fishes on, I might throw the Ned rig more. When the conservation department built the lake I fish on most of the time, they only took out the minimal amount of growth necessary to build the dam. Consequently there is alot more wood/brush cover than a "normal" reservoir. Hardwoods, soft woods, throrn trees & bushes, you name it this lake has lots of that stuff. Add that to the green stuff that comes & goes through the season and fishing the Ned rig just becomes a pain. About the only place you can throw it is along the dam, and someone, in their wisdom decided to place a Christmas tree every 30 or 40 feet, 8 feet down or so all along the dam. You can throw soft plastics there, but if they ain't tx rigged, you're going to get stuck. Side note: I also got my 2021 BPS Master catalog few days ago and I was also intrigued by the amount of "Ned stuff". I'm wondering a little bit about how well some of that stuff will fit on a Brewer Slider head. Quote
Jaderose Posted February 6, 2021 Author Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fishes in trees said: If I fished lakes similar to those that Ned fishes on, I might throw the Ned rig more. When the conservation department built the lake I fish on most of the time, they only took out the minimal amount of growth necessary to build the dam. Consequently there is alot more wood/brush cover than a "normal" reservoir. Hardwoods, soft woods, throrn trees & bushes, you name it this lake has lots of that stuff. Add that to the green stuff that comes & goes through the season and fishing the Ned rig just becomes a pain. About the only place you can throw it is along the dam, and someone, in their wisdom decided to place a Christmas tree every 30 or 40 feet, 8 feet down or so all along the dam. You can throw soft plastics there, but if they ain't tx rigged, you're going to get stuck. Side note: I also got my 2021 BPS Master catalog few days ago and I was also intrigued by the amount of "Ned stuff". I'm wondering a little bit about how well some of that stuff will fit on a Brewer Slider head. Same boat here. I have nothing against the Ned Rig or or anything that catches fish but throwing it in the lake I fish most of the time would be the same as taking the money I spent on any of it and just throwing THAT directly in the water Quote
rtwvumtneer6 Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Seems like every time I turned a page I thought, "Here comes another lawsuit." 1 Quote
LCG Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 I use the technique alot. Like most things in life, something simple was made complicated. I am sure alot of it is marketing, but at least there is choices. I still prefer zman TRD and a size 2 EWG with a 1/16oz bullet weight pegged. It's very productive and doesn't hang up. I also use the craw TRD. The elaztech material makes fishing this rig pretty cheap as the baits last a very long time and a lot of fish. The whole mid west finesse is interesting because of its history, evolution, effectiveness, and what started as frugality. I have read and seen videos that other baits are used as well and it dates back to the 1960's or earlier. 3 inch grubs, worms, swim baits, etc. I realize it's nothing new, just remarketed, but I can't dispute its effectiveness. 2 1 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted February 6, 2021 Super User Posted February 6, 2021 Yes , each year more and more companies trying to cash in on the Ned craze . I'm still all about cut down in half elaZtec stick worms or TRD's mostly on small 1/16th oz. jig heads with #2 size hooks , The #2 EWG hook with a pegged 1/16th oz. bullet weight with a TRD is a cool deal too. Quote
heavyduty Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, LCG said: I still prefer zman TRD and a size 2 EWG with a 1/16oz bullet weight pegged. Could you post a pic of the TRD with the 2 EWG? Quote
Fred Allen Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I actually just set up some Ned stuff last week to try when the ice melts. I did take YUM Dingers I already had and cut them with scissors to size. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 7, 2021 Global Moderator Posted February 7, 2021 This entire craze has cracked me up from the very beginning, I’ve still never purchased a single “ned rig,” neither the plastics nor the jigheads. Most fishermen have to have the latest releases, plenty of weekenders running $3k depth finders 1 Quote
LCG Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 13 hours ago, heavyduty said: Could you post a pic of the TRD with the 2 EWG? Not my video but this is where I learned it from... I use a #2 gammy ewg 1 1 Quote
heavyduty Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Thanks! The smallest EWG I've ever used is a 1/0, didn't know they made them smaller in EWG. You don't know what you don't know. Thanks again for sharing, gonna get me some. Quote
Junk Fisherman Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 17 hours ago, ChrisD46 said: Yes , each year more and more companies trying to cash in on the Ned craze . I'm still all about cut down in half elaZtec stick worms or TRD's mostly on small 1/16th oz. jig heads with #2 size hooks , The #2 EWG hook with a pegged 1/16th oz. bullet weight with a TRD is a cool deal too. Yeap- that is my set-up too. There are a couple other baits I throw and I will bump up to 1/10th oz occasionally but the 1/16th, #2, and a TRD is what I throw the most. I will say that I played around with some 1/16th jigs with EWG #1 hooks from Owner thinking it would make the presentation weedless yet still give the same results. I found that my hookup rate went down. The hook just didn't come out of the plactic well enough and I am definitely not doing a big hookset with 6-8 lb line. Maybe it works better for you. Quote
Kdizzle Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 The Ned rig and its variants are a simple and extremely productive way to fish. Like most people who try it and have no luck, it usually always boils down to overworking the bait, which is often the case with all finesse techniques. Its isn't meant to be fished like a jig, most of the time you are simply moving the bait by raising your rod tip and then deadsticking it. Its a lot like verticle dropshotting in that way. There are not many conditions where you are trying to force a reaction strike from a fish with something like a Ned. If you do get one it happens as soon as the bait hits the water usually, and wasn't intended to be that way, but just a fortuitous mistake. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 8, 2021 Global Moderator Posted February 8, 2021 Lots of guys buying $17 Jackhammers because the pros tell them to. Do they work? Sure. Are they catching anyone any more fish than a cheaper bait? Who knows but as long as the pros are catching fish on them and hawking them, they'll be getting sold. We seem to be very gullible to any bait that we can see catching fish or hear about catching fish repeatedly. 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted February 8, 2021 Super User Posted February 8, 2021 I’m by no way poo pooing the NED Rig stuff. I guess majority of the stuff works. But a lot of hype built up around it. More than that dude NED ever imagined I suppose. I know here in the Northeast that be fished since the early 80’s. A form of it I guess. Basically can be done with all the broken and torn up pieces of plastic laying around on the boat deck that is gonna be thrown out when you get back home. I fish some of the newer products. What I’ve tried has worked. But the old Zoom Fat Albert and a Case tube does also. It’s all good. Quote
padon Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 it's all marketing. the basic idea is not really new and ned will tell you that. the buoyancy of the elaztech adds a little touch but the basics are very similar to slider fishing which has been around 40 years. some of the new stuff works but I'm sure not much better than the original. the basic concept is a ligh weight small fitness plastic moved in a slow natural way and will catch fish everywhere especially under tough bite conditions. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted February 8, 2021 Super User Posted February 8, 2021 The Ned is like M&M's to a bass versus the buffet line ... Quote
paulmandude Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 For those that texas rig their ned, do you peg your weight? Quote
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