Jigsaw 2/8 Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 I wonder if #14 sufix advance mono is too heavy for the kvd 1.5s? Any advice what size or kind of mono you like for squarebills? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 19, 2021 Global Moderator Posted January 19, 2021 I fish them on anything from 10-20 and I believe I've heard KVD himself mention fishing them as high as 25 in heavy cover or to make them run shallower. 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 I used 14 lb. Advance for a while. I thought it was excellent for some things, but sensitivity wasn't one of them. I use squarebills on riprap, and instead of burning them, I run them quite slow. I depend on that "tick ......tick" to tell me what the lure is doing. I wasn't getting that feedback with Advance that I wanted ..... or at least not to the degree that I wanted. I had been using Seaguar InvizX, and that gave me better results. Where are you using your squarebills, in other words in what kind of environment? How fast is your retrieve? If I run squarebills (KVD or any others) at higher speeds, then that's a whole different ball game. Of course, that's suicide on riprap. You either hang up or your lure comes back with no bill. If you run squarebills in more open waters, and especially at higher speeds, then 14 lb. line is fine, whether it's Advance or something else. If you're running an obstacle course the way I am, and you depend on feedback from the lure, then all I can tell you is that I prefer fluorocarbon. Different horses for different courses. BTW ..... running on riprap the way I do, I have better luck with the 2.5s than the 1.5s. YMMV. Good luck! jj 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 Sunline Defier Armilo #11 1 Quote
Dens228 Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 I use 20 lb Sufix 832 with a short 10 lb mono leader. And no, the braid does not dig on the reel causing snap offs and other issues, and yes I have caught big bass. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 I use 15# Invisx, so I'm sure what you have will work fine. 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 I have 2 different rods that I will use for squarebills. Open water over rocks or grass I am throwing 12# Invisx, around cover such as wood I am throwing 15# Tatsu. 2 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 Not a big fan of Sufix Advance but I do like Elite for mono. For squarebills and crankbaits though, I like Sunline Defier 13lb. 1 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 Most Square Bill 1.5's get between #12 lb. to #15 lb. FC , Co-Poly or Mono . 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted January 20, 2021 Super User Posted January 20, 2021 15 lb Big Game. 1 Quote
tander Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Not too heavy, I use 16# test Sunline Sniper . 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 20, 2021 Global Moderator Posted January 20, 2021 When I throw them which isn’t too often, I use #14 Sniper Mike 1 Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted January 20, 2021 Super User Posted January 20, 2021 You can either go lighter line to maximize running depth, or heavier line to increase your odds of getting fish out of heavier cover. 1 Quote
TBAG Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 I've got a couple different squarebill combos and on one is either 12 or 15lb Big Game which has done well for me over the years, open water or rock/wood. I decided to try Yozuri Hybrid 10lb after several recommendations from here and I have it on one of my setups. I've only fished it a few times so no real conclusion yet but so far it seems like it will work. 1 Quote
Super User Teal Posted January 21, 2021 Super User Posted January 21, 2021 10 to 16 lb floro. I have thrown them on 8lb yzh on spinning tackle. No problems there. I have 14 lb spooled up now on my judge rod. 1 Quote
Mbirdsley Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, TBAG said: I've got a couple different squarebill combos and on one is either 12 or 15lb Big Game which has done well for me over the years, open water or rock/wood. I decided to try Yozuri Hybrid 10lb after several recommendations from here and I have it on one of my setups. I've only fished it a few times so no real conclusion yet but so far it seems like it will work. This is what I use for square bills and spinner baits. 12 lbs 1 Quote
Jigsaw 2/8 Posted January 22, 2021 Author Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 6:59 AM, jimmyjoe said: I used 14 lb. Advance for a while. I thought it was excellent for some things, but sensitivity wasn't one of them. I use squarebills on riprap, and instead of burning them, I run them quite slow. I depend on that "tick ......tick" to tell me what the lure is doing. I wasn't getting that feedback with Advance that I wanted ..... or at least not to the degree that I wanted. I had been using Seaguar InvizX, and that gave me better results. Where are you using your squarebills, in other words in what kind of environment? How fast is your retrieve? If I run squarebills (KVD or any others) at higher speeds, then that's a whole different ball game. Of course, that's suicide on riprap. You either hang up or your lure comes back with no bill. If you run squarebills in more open waters, and especially at higher speeds, then 14 lb. line is fine, whether it's Advance or something else. If you're running an obstacle course the way I am, and you depend on feedback from the lure, then all I can tell you is that I prefer fluorocarbon. Different horses for different courses. BTW ..... running on riprap the way I do, I have better luck with the 2.5s than the 1.5s. YMMV. Good luck! jj I'm running these things in open river current. Anywhere from 1-6ft. Just rocks and boulders on the susquehanna. I believe that the 12lb fluorocarbon was a culprit for getting these lures stuck easier. And by burn i mean 7.1:1 or higher gear ratio Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Super User Posted January 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jigsaw 2/8 said: I'm running these things in open river current. Anywhere from 1-6ft. Just rocks and boulders on the susquehanna. I believe that the 12lb fluorocarbon was a culprit for getting these lures stuck easier. And by burn i mean 7.1:1 or higher gear ratio Yeah ..... totally different than the way I use them. It looks like 14# Advance might be the right answer for you. Good luck! jj 1 Quote
Jigsaw 2/8 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 12 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: Yeah ..... totally different than the way I use them. It looks like 14# Advance might be the right answer for you. Good luck! jj Thanks for the help! 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 23, 2021 Super User Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jigsaw 2/8 said: Thanks for the help! I assume you were thanking all the other people that replied, too. But as for me ..... you're welcome!. jj 1 Quote
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