More swing head jig questions

[Luke Barnes]

1. Are they good for slow dragging the bottom in the winter, like a jig but more weedless and slimmer profile?

 

2. Has anybody used a worm on one? I just picked up some SK Cutr worms and feel like they would work.

 

3. Just read an article about using swimbaits on them. Retrieve like a crankbait and it looks like a fish feeding on the bottom, swim it and ita more erratic than a standard swimbait head. Supposedly.... Anyone tried it?

[Finessegenics]

I guess I’ll answer all your questions at the same time. I’m sure it still works just slowly dragging it and fishing it like a  jig but in my experience, this bait truly shines when you’re constantly moving it along bottom. It looks like a scurrying crawfish/baitfish. Think of it as a crankbait which you can instantly customize by putting on a different profile bait, color, action etc. You’ve got the action of the plastic on the retrieve as well as the constant deflection off hard cover or bottom.  Most people use creature baits so the swimbait is just something different. In fact, just about anything works on the back of one. I’ve read/heard somewhere that they are even used as ledge baits with magnum worms. Though I’m not sure if those guys are running it like a crankbait or just fishing it like a jig.
 

There are lots of good videos out there explaining the technique well but I’d imagine you’ve watched a few of those videos already doing your research. If you’d like me to link them, I will. 

[Bluebasser86]

They're one of my main wintertime presentations.

 

They'll work with almost any kind of plastic body. I've used every type of plastic I can think of and the only one that didn't work was a tube.

 

I believe the poison swing head was made just for rigging swimbaits to have the big fish chasing a littler fish look.

[Luke Barnes]

19 hours ago, Finessegenics said:

I guess I’ll answer all your questions at the same time. I’m sure it still works just slowly dragging it and fishing it like a  jig but in my experience, this bait truly shines when you’re constantly moving it along bottom. It looks like a scurrying crawfish/baitfish. Think of it as a crankbait which you can instantly customize by putting on a different profile bait, color, action etc. You’ve got the action of the plastic on the retrieve as well as the constant deflection off hard cover or bottom.  Most people use creature baits so the swimbait is just something different. In fact, just about anything works on the back of one. I’ve read/heard somewhere that they are even used as ledge baits with magnum worms. Though I’m not sure if those guys are running it like a crankbait or just fishing it like a jig.
 

There are lots of good videos out there explaining the technique well but I’d imagine you’ve watched a few of those videos already doing your research. If you’d like me to link them, I will. 

Sure i would like to see which ones youve watched. I understand better now. Maybe i could just slow the retrieve down and trigger some bites?

11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

They're one of my main wintertime presentations.

 

They'll work with almost any kind of plastic body. I've used every type of plastic I can think of and the only one that didn't work was a tube.

 

I believe the poison swing head was made just for rigging swimbaits to have the big fish chasing a littler fish look.

I'm thinking of trying the Cutr Worm today. Nice thing is its quick and easy to switch to a totally different look and profile, that's what attracted me to it.

[Fishes in trees]

I think that this is a bait that you keep moving.  I think it is possible to go too fast.  I think that it is possible to go too slow.  The videos that I've seen of Tommy Biffle using this bait showed him keeping it moving ON the bottom.   That is the retrieve I've had success with.   My personal best Truman Lake fish (22" - would have been 6 something had I weighed it) came using this "keep it moving" cadence.    I was using a 5-1 reel and I wasn't cranking anywhere close to top speed.

[Luke Barnes]

4 hours ago, Fishes in trees said:

I think the this is a bait that you keep moving.  I think it is possible to go too fast.  I think that it is possible to go too slow.  The videos that I've seen of Tommy Biffle using this bait showed him keeping it moving ON the bottom.   That is the retrieve I've had success with.   My personal best Truman Lake fish (22" - would have been 6 something had I weighed it) came using this "keep it moving" cadence.    I was using a 5-1 reel and I wasn't cranking anywhere close to top speed.

I keep hearing about Tommy Biffle basically inventing the swing head. I need to go down to Fort Gibson and fish it because that's where he is from and im sure is his home lake. Ita about a 45 minute drive for me. Gene Larew is local too so maybe I ought to try a pack of Biffle Bugs too.