Ned rig as drop shot weight.

[dodgeguy]

Has anybody used a Ned under a Drop Shot ? I would think this would work well. I have caught many fish on the Ned but only one on the drop shot. Fishing the Ned underneath it would give me enough confidence to not just give up on the drop shot.

[Team9nine]

Bad idea...very, very bad idea 

 

Learn each one separately. They are both great presentations, just not when combined together...IMHO

[ajschn06]

Haven’t fished either... but isn’t the drop shot a bit more of a stationary presentation compared to the Ned.  Ned is also very sensitive to what line and jighead you use, so I’d think throwing another bait on top of it would mess it up

[@reelChris]

I think as long as you don't use a floating bait like a TRD you could catch something on a drop shot rigged ned bait, but it seems pretty unnecessary.  

[dodgeguy]

17 minutes ago, ajschn06 said:

Haven’t fished either... but isn’t the drop shot a bit more of a stationary presentation compared to the Ned.  Ned is also very sensitive to what line and jighead you use, so I’d think throwing another bait on top of it would mess it up

Ive fished the Ned super slow / deadsticked with good success.

[ajschn06]

1 minute ago, dodgeguy said:

Ive fished the Ned super slow / deadsticked with good success.

Just thinking of the lift/glide retrieve... wouldn’t work right with a drop shot on top

[Fishes in trees]

I double dog dare you to try this and not mention it again until next June, when you've fished it enough to give an honest opinion.

[optimator]

[jbsoonerfan]

It wouldn't work for me because I fish them differently. I would have to decide if I was going to fish it like a ned rig, or like a drop shot. I also only drop shot for smallies which is only a few times a year so I am not a veteran at it.

[Bluebasser86]

When I try to fish 2 baits at once, I just find I lose baits twice as fast and catch fewer fish in the process.

[lynxcat]

I think I tried it once last year. I’ll give it a go again this winter. I think the drop shot needs to be suspended on a slightly longer leader since the Ned would be a target. 
 

I actually fish each fairly similarly. Very slight bounces off the bottom. 

[00bullitt]

I tried it last year with a Keitech jig. It hooks fish, but you lose them because it breaks the Palomar knot the dropshot hook is tied on with and then fish go bye bye.

 

The dropshot hook knot is the limiting factor. 

[RoLo]

 

On the surface, that certainly appears like a creative approach,

and jogs my memories on the Atlantic. Many skippers would fish a Christmas tree rig

for mackerel, using a diamond jig as a sinker (blues, stripers & weakfish).

 

As it happens, I don’t fish any two lures exactly the same,

so for me at least, it would create an excruciating cultural bias ?

 

Roger

[Log Catcher]

I have thought about using a drop shot with a shaky head but never have tried it. I wonder how well that would work.

[MickD]

Come on, guys.  How does a minnow feed when near the bottom?  Often by going head down, in a vertical attitude, and pecking toward the bottom.  What would a Ned TRD on a drop shot do?  It would float up at the tail, head down, looking like a feeding minnow.  Which is why the Elaztech minnows are such good drop shot lures.  And why a TRD would also work.

[Michigander]

We experimented with light wire jigs as the weight. This type of thing is common enough in saltwater, should work fine in freshwater.

[lynxcat]

4 hours ago, 00bullitt said:

I tried it last year with a Keitech jig. It hooks fish, but you lose them because it breaks the Palomar knot the dropshot hook is tied on with and then fish go bye bye.

 

The dropshot hook knot is the limiting factor. 

This makes no sense to me. The drop shot hook knot strength isn’t impacted by the weight...or second lure in this case. 

[00bullitt]

7 hours ago, lynxcat said:

This makes no sense to me. The drop shot hook knot strength isn’t impacted by the weight...or second lure in this case. 

It is when you hook a fish on the bottom hook/lure. That tag end is now pulling on the knot above it.

 

Another knot style for the hook above is necessary.

 

[MickD]

Then the drip shot rigs that have the hook and swivels would be needed for this scheme to be reliable.  So if the palomar is used up the line and the sinker snags it's likely to break the palomar, just like if you catch a fish on the lower jig.  I'll have to experiment with this.  My son does it all the time and I don't remember his ever breaking the palomar when snagging the sinker, and he does not use sliding sinkers that simply pull off.

 

By the way, my response to the TRD question was not that I was considering the TRD to be on a jig on the bottom, but on the drop shot hook up the line.  The Elaztech minnows work well there and I expect a TRD would too.

 

 

[livin2fish]

I've tried using a second lure as the weight for a drop shot.  I'm convinced, which one to hit, is too difficult a decision for the fish to make.? Probably cause it hasn't worked for me.  

[scaleface]

Ive done crazier things that caught fish . Go for it .

[Bankc]

6 minutes ago, scaleface said:

Ive done crazier things that caught fish . Go for it .

Words to live by.

[Junk Fisherman]

I never use such a light sinker for my dropshot.  I typically use 3/8th oz DS weight and a 1/16th oz Ned Rig weight so I don't think this would work for me.  But hey- give it a shot and see if it works.  

[MickD]

I tied a couple palomars with 15 FC and pulled on the tag end.  I do conclude that it's not that hard to break the knot when pulling on the tag end.  Lesson learned.  

[FryDog62]

14 hours ago, Log Catcher said:

I have thought about using a drop shot with a shaky head but never have tried it. I wonder how well that would work.

A floating tail worm like a Big Bite Baits Squirrel Tail comes to mind as the shaky head option...