Keefu13 Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 I live in Japan and fish for snakeheads usually with a frog in medium to thick cover. Any suggestions on a good reel between 150-250? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 8, 2021 Super User Posted January 8, 2021 https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_Curado_200K_Casting_Reels/descpage-CRDK.html 2 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 8, 2021 Super User Posted January 8, 2021 If you live in Japan, don't you have easy access to reels that we don't even know about? I'd think prices would be better, too. Surely local Japanese fishermen go after snakehead. Your best tactic is to copy what they use. Whichever decision you make ...................... good luck! jj 3 Quote
Keefu13 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 Would the drag be enough for curado 200k? @roadwarrior same for the Daiwa? @BaitFinesse? Maybe I am looking too much at drag? I just started fishing last spring btw. @jimmyjoe most guys here use round reels Abu and Shimano. Those are both between 400-500 other guys use low profile baitcasters. Do you know anything about round baitcasters ? I have only ever used low profile ones. Quote
Keefu13 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said: Every snakehead rod I've seen has pics of fish caught showing off the rod ans often there is a TD Zillion on the rod. The reel is legendary as a reel for taming big non bass species around the world and holding up to the use. Drag can be upgraded as well. Thank you for the recommendation maybe I can even find it at a used fishing shop near my house! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 8, 2021 Super User Posted January 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Keefu13 said: Would the drag be enough for curado 200k? @roadwarrior same for the Daiwa? @BaitFinesse? Maybe I am looking too much at drag? I just started fishing last spring btw. @jimmyjoe most guys here use round reels Abu and Shimano. Those are both between 400-500 other guys use low profile baitcasters. Do you know anything about round baitcasters ? I have only ever used low profile ones. 11 lbs of drag is about 7 lbs too many and would never come into play in freshwater fishing. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 8, 2021 Super User Posted January 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, Keefu13 said: most guys here use round reels Abu and Shimano Japanese attitudes are that non-subsistence fishing is high-class. Traditionally, reels for larger sport fish were ABU. The market has changed since then, but in Japan, tradition dies with only the greatest of difficulty. Yes, I've used round reels .... since 1963. I love them and hold them in the greatest esteem. (I now have arthritis. It's in the base of my thumbs, which is the absolute worst location for using a round reel.) The rugged reliability of ABU, along with the plethora of parts worldwide both factory and custom, make them interesting to use, modify and collect. The one thing that sets them (and some other round reels) apart from low-profile reels is the synchronized levelwind. Some modern fishermen have a very low opinion of synchro reels that is, in my mind, totally unjustified. I needed a reel the same size as the 5500C3 Abu, and I settled on the Shimano TranX 300a. It's a beast of a reel, yet comfortable for me ..... marginally comfortable, that is. Check around your local markets. You might like it and decide to use it. If not, then the advice given by others (above) will be much more useful to you. jj 1 Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted January 8, 2021 Super User Posted January 8, 2021 Check out Japan Tackle. Quote
Keefu13 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 6 hours ago, BaitFinesse said: You also might be able to track down a used old gen silver Ryoga 1016. Those reels tame barramundi. I buy my used reels from Japan shops. Ryoga I have heard of them! I’ll look around! Thank you! 6 hours ago, roadwarrior said: 11 lbs of drag is about 7 lbs too many and would never come into play in freshwater fishing. Thank you! I will look into the curado! 6 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: Japanese attitudes are that non-subsistence fishing is high-class. Traditionally, reels for larger sport fish were ABU. The market has changed since then, but in Japan, tradition dies with only the greatest of difficulty. Yes, I've used round reels .... since 1963. I love them and hold them in the greatest esteem. (I now have arthritis. It's in the base of my thumbs, which is the absolute worst location for using a round reel.) The rugged reliability of ABU, along with the plethora of parts worldwide both factory and custom, make them interesting to use, modify and collect. The one thing that sets them (and some other round reels) apart from low-profile reels is the synchronized levelwind. Some modern fishermen have a very low opinion of synchro reels that is, in my mind, totally unjustified. I needed a reel the same size as the 5500C3 Abu, and I settled on the Shimano TranX 300a. It's a beast of a reel, yet comfortable for me ..... marginally comfortable, that is. Check around your local markets. You might like it and decide to use it. If not, then the advice given by others (above) will be much more useful to you. jj Wow thanks for the detailed response! What do you like about round reels more than low profile? Is it the feel or cast ability? I have heard that they are easier to clean and like you said customize. 41 minutes ago, .ghoti. said: Check out Japan Tackle. Thank you! I will check it out! Quote
Super User Solution jbsoonerfan Posted January 9, 2021 Super User Solution Posted January 9, 2021 Bantam MGL You're welcome 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 9, 2021 Super User Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Keefu13 said: What do you like about round reels more than low profile? Simplicity and consistency. Look at the parts breakdown of the Shimano Curado 200K. Then, look at the parts breakdown of a Shimano Cardiff 200A. Same line capacity, but tremendous difference in simplicity. Not only that, but round reels generally have a larger diameter spool. That means that at the end of a 50-yard cast, the remainder of line on your spool is of a larger diameter, too. That helps initial line pickup. The larger diameter spools hold more line, too. Plus .... I learned on them. The Japanese aren't the only ones who appreciate tradition. ? ? jj Quote
Keefu13 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said: Bantam MGL You're welcome I’ll look into it thank you! 1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said: Simplicity and consistency. Look at the parts breakdown of the Shimano Curado 200K. Then, look at the parts breakdown of a Shimano Cardiff 200A. Same line capacity, but tremendous difference in simplicity. Not only that, but round reels generally have a larger diameter spool. That means that at the end of a 50-yard cast, the remainder of line on your spool is of a larger diameter, too. That helps initial line pickup. The larger diameter spools hold more line, too. Plus .... I learned on them. The Japanese aren't the only ones who appreciate tradition. ? ? jj I see yeah I love the simplicity especially if you want to clean and maintain yourself which I intend to do. haha yes I am half Japanese and Japanese love tradition but sometimes holding onto the old gets in the way of moving forward here in Japan. It is totally opposite of America. Anyway thank you so much I will be looking into getting a round reel. I have wanted one since I see all the snakehead guys here with them! Thanks for helping me making this decision! Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted January 9, 2021 Super User Posted January 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Keefu13 said: Thanks for helping me making this decision! As the dairy farmer said, "You milk'em!" ? ? (Yeah, I know it's corny, but I'm old. I'm allowed to be corny.) jj 1 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 The first bait caster I fell in love with was an Abu Ambassadeur 5000. I love it so much that I completely rebuilt it. Do they have an advantage over low profile reels? Not really, but I enjoy them. 1 Quote
Keefu13 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Slipknot_Fan666 said: The first bait caster I fell in love with was an Abu Ambassadeur 5000. I love it so much that I completely rebuilt it. Do they have an advantage over low profile reels? Not really, but I enjoy them. Nice! I am looking at either Abu 5500 or 6500 model or a daiwa. Shimano Calcutta conquest is a bit pricy. Thanks for sharing! 1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said: As the dairy farmer said, "You milk'em!" ? ? (Yeah, I know it's corny, but I'm old. I'm allowed to be corny.) jj Hahaha I love it. 1 Quote
Shimano_1 Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 22 hours ago, roadwarrior said: https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_Curado_200K_Casting_Reels/descpage-CRDK.html X2 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted January 9, 2021 Super User Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:56 AM, roadwarrior said: 11 lbs of drag is about 7 lbs too many and would never come into play in freshwater fishing. I agree with a lot of what you jsay but this is not one point I agree with.when flipping with 65lb braid in heavy weeds I lock my drag down right and have had fish pull drags that were set around 11lbs. I now have 20 lb drags and lock them down under the same circumstances to haul fish out of heavy cover.i use a Johnny Morris 7-6 extra fast heavy rod and it takes the pressure with no problem. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 9, 2021 Super User Posted January 9, 2021 Another vote for the Shimano Bantam. Solid, smooth, and easy to cast. 1 Quote
Shimano_1 Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 I've never had a situation come into play personally where drag wqs an issue on any daiwa or shimano and uve owned a bunch. I personally think its over rated but obviously others don't agree. Guess if someone thinks they need it then get one with more. I fish a lot of grass and nasty stuff on several lakes and I usually don't lock down the drag on my shimanos or anything else 1 Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted January 9, 2021 Super User Posted January 9, 2021 Tatula 150 does the froggin' job for me. 1 Quote
Keefu13 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Posted January 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Born 2 fish said: Lews super duty. I have heard of Lews! Have not seen any here at the tackle shop though! Quote
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