Abraz X Flouro Alternatives?

[SproDD79]

Hi Everyone,

 

    I have been using seaguar abrazx 10lb test for my cranking needs for a few years now and have been  happy with it. I have noticed the price has increased recently, I was thinking about trying something different as an alternative, I have heard good thing about sunline assassin. Anyone use abrazx for cranking and know of another fluorocarbon with similar qualities ? or any recommendations?Any info is appreciated. 

[MN Fisher]

Go to Tackle Warehouse - until the 8th, all Seaguar line is on sale for 30% off regular price...stock up.

[WRB]

Crankbaits use Sunline Defier Armiilo 11 lb.

Higher knot strength then FC and longer casting line.

Tom

[roadwarrior]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Go to Tackle Warehouse - until the 8th, all Seaguar line is on sale for 30% off regular price...stock up.

[bulldog1935]

Seaguar doesn't call Abrazyx copolymer, but that's what it is.  

(so is Tatsu)

Many of my salt friends use Sufix copolymer, and I searched it to this Tackle Advisors video on BR.  

 

[Glenn]

47 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

Seaguar doesn't call Abrazyx copolymer, but that's what it is.  

(so is Tatsu)

 

Curious where you got your info from on this.  Care to elaborate?

 

3 hours ago, SproDD70 said:

or any recommendations?

 

I prefer InvizX and Tatsu for cranking.  InvizX for all-purpose cranking, and Tatsu for deep-diving crankbaits (thinner diameter, more supple line).

[Russ E]

1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said:

Seaguar doesn't call Abrazyx copolymer, but that's what it is.  

(so is Tatsu)

Many of my salt friends use Sufix copolymer, and I searched it to this Tackle Advisors video on BR.  

 

Not sure where you got the info, but abraz x and Tatsu are pure fluorocarbon.

Cheaper lines like yozuri hybrid and kast  king fluorokote are fluorocarbon coated mono, or copoly.

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, Russ E said:

Cheaper lines like yozuri hybrid and kast  king fluorokote are fluorocarbon coated mono, or copoly.

Actually - Yo-Zuri has thin strands of nylon embedded in a fluorocarbon carrier, bonded together.

 

Others, like Kast King are indeed just fluorocarbon coated single-strand nylon.

 

 

[FishTank]

I like Abrazx but it would be one last choices for crankbaits.   I like it for jigs and some softplastic.  To me, it works best around structure and rocks.  For crankbait fishing, I like Sunline Defier and Invizx for deep cranks. 

2 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Seaguar doesn't call Abrazyx copolymer, but that's what it is.  

(so is Tatsu)

Many of my salt friends use Sufix copolymer, and I searched it to this Tackle Advisors video on BR. 

 

 

Not to jump on the band wagon about this......  I believe that mono and copolymer when lit with a match will burn but fluorocarbon will not.   It's an easy way to tell if you bought some fake FC.... Just tested some Abrazx and CXX> CXX smoked and burned, Abrazx did not. 

[WRB]

The definition of lines like nearly everything in bass fishing is up to anglers.  

Copolymer technically is 2 polymers. Co extruded isn’t advertised and often used to manufacture a core polymer with a extruded outer polymer. Hydride line like Yo-Zuri are co extruded with 2 very different polymers; nylon and Fluorocarbon. 

It could be debated co extruding 2 fluorocarbons is a copolymer although it’s 100% fluorocarbon.

Tom

[SproDD79]

5 minutes ago, FishTank said:

I like Abrazx but it would be one last choices for crankbaits.   I like it for jigs and some softplastic.  To me, it works best around structure and rocks.  For crankbait fishing, I like Sunline Defier and Invizx for deep cranks. 

I'm often fishing lakes with rocky bottoms, if I don't make contact with the bottom, I don't get as many strikes, the abrazx has taken a good amount of abuse and held up well in regards to abrasion resistance. It seems like  the invizx is popular from what I'm reading, Defier and Defier Armilo seem really interesting as well,  I think I will  pick u a spool of each to try out and get feel for them on the water, thanks for all the input, it's appreciated.  

[FishTank]

12 minutes ago, SproDD70 said:

I'm often fishing lakes with rocky bottoms, if I don't make contact with the bottom, I don't get as many strikes, the abrazx has taken a good amount of abuse and held up well in regards to abrasion resistance. It seems like  the invizx is popular from what I'm reading, Defier and Defier Armilo seem really interesting as well,  I think I will  pick u a spool of each to try out and get feel for them on the water, thanks for all the input, it's appreciated.  

 

Armilo will be more like Abrazx (kind of).  Regular Defier is something special for crankbaits.  Armilo so far (first spool last year) has worked well for me with swimbaits and heavy jigs. 

[Glenn]

There may be some confusion regarding "copolymer" vs. the manufacturing process Seaguar uses.

 

Seaguar makes the World’s only Double Structure Fluorocarbon. The process is unique and proprietary and uses two custom, 100% Seaguar Fluorocarbon resins that are extruded in one solid piece. This process creates a tough, but soft exterior, with greatly enhanced inner strength unequaled by any other line on the planet.

 

Tatsu, Blue Label, and Gold Label use this process.  AbrazX and InvizX do not, but are still 100% fluorocarbon.

[bulldog1935]

I fished through most of 1000 yds of Red, probably 500 yds Senshi, a spool charge of Tatsu (broke off a lifetime snook - in all fairness, probably a gill-plate cut), and most of 1000 yds of Abrazx, which is my favorite of the bunch.  I still have two reels spooled with fresh Abrazx, and everything else is braid + Blue or sometimes Abraxz leader on UL.  

 

I turned to Seaguar 15 years ago (had already been using leader), when dashing off to the airport, my stop only had high-strength Rio fluoro tippet, and that AK trip, broke off three 30+" Kenai rainbows at knots.  (It was a work trip, but if you don't have a plan to play when the work is done, Alaska clients get peeved.)  I've ended up never getting a larger AK rainbow than at home in my Texas tailwater.  Have never looked back from Seaguar since.  Knot strength is exceptional.  

 

Of course I use a lot of Blue leader in range of sizes, and just got my first spool of 30-lb Gold for surf reels.  The Gold was tough to fold when coiling an Allbright knot (tougher than thicker 30-lb blue), trashed the first knot, then got really good results on the next two.  

[Boomstick]

Come BPS/Cabela's spring sale, you can get Berkley Trilene Fluorocarbon for buy one get one free at BPS or half off at Cabela's (the latter as of 2020's spring sale at least). I've used a lot of it and it's been decent line with terrific knot strength.

[zeth]

I just use Sufix Advance mono or fluoro and Cortalnd braid. I can't stand AbrazX.