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   Man, that sounds familiar!

   In lakes, I'm still on Stage 2 or 3. In the river, I'm on Stage 5. Got an 11-year-old who shows a lot of promise, and his parents approve of his fishing mania.

   Other than that, I'm on Stage 4. I'm relaxed and I enjoy fishing. The other fishermen I hang with want to do what they want to do their way, and that's it. I'm the same. If that weren't true, I wouldn't have so many spoons.  ?  (One woman calls me "Mr. Spoon.") 

   As for how I got there, I blushingly admit that it's simply a long-time evolution of the fishing that I've always done. I'm not smart, I'm not overly dedicated, and I'm certainly not going to ruin my peace by being competitive. But I stuck with it through the years, and it's paid off.

   Basically ...... I'm happy. If that's not good enough for some other people, then that's their problem.     jj

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I have to say I mostly bounce between Stage 2 and Stage 3...with both being immersed in Stage 4.

 

I don't get much time on the water to begin with - 4 hours in the canoe is a LONG day because of the home situation. So I always have rigs ready to go the night before and pretty much stay with them the entire time out. Of my 10 rigs, I might change lures on 1 or 2 of them during an outing - so Stage 4 is a big part of my fishing.

 

I know I need to be more adaptable, it's just that when you have limited time - changing lures seems to be a time-waster...I could get 4-5 casts/retrieves done in the time it takes me to change out.

 

Need to work on that...

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Great read!!! First question: what the world is is a hornpout???


I think I’m using the tackle A-jay had in the 70s. I literally still have a couple rusted de-liars with the tiny hook that won’t hold a fish (no clue why I still have them) 

 

I can’t say for sure what stage I’m in, let’s call it “stage 6.” Basically i have to go fishing (or at least be on or near the water). I’m sure I could survive without going fishing, but it would be in an asylum or prison. If I don’t go fishing for anytime longer than a week straight, my personality turns sour. I have to fight hard to keep from freaking out inside my brain without fishing. I think and read about fishing pretty much all day and night when I’m off the water (thanks a million bass resource and @Glenn). I have been locked into this “stage 6” since age 2 from what I’ve been told. There is no cure other than fishing. I don’t necessarily care what size, species, or number of fish we catch, I just need to go fishing really really bad. Like I posted somewhere, I fish for trout and I don’t even like them. Maybe I’ll go after some hornpout one day! (Probably not as I imagine they are nowhere near my house). I suppose I was born to go fishing somewhere deep inside my being. Fish are also my main source of food. Sure I’d rather have beef tenderloin all the time but it costs money and I have to drive to a grocery store and walk all through it to acquire beef. Let’s take a poll: would you rather drive to a grocery store and walk all through it or go fishing? Pretty simple for me. Also I would always rather go fishing with other people as opposed to alone. I feel like most experiences in life are better when shared with others, kind of like the final lesson that Alexander supertramp (Christopher mccandless) learned the hard way (Into the Wild is the name of the book/movie). He wanted to be alone in the wild and his final message was to share experiences with other humans, the opposite of what he was doing in the school bus in which he lived in remote Alaska 

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1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said:

Great read!!! First question: what the world is is a hornpout???

Brown Bullhead - I think it's a New England thing cause Andy and I grew up in the same area (Mass.) at the same time. I knew them as hornpout before I knew they were really bullhead.

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3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Great read!!! First question: what the world is is a hornpout???


I think I’m using the tackle A-jay had in the 70s. I literally still have a couple rusted de-liars with the tiny hook that won’t hold a fish (no clue why I still have them) 

 

I can’t say for sure what stage I’m in, let’s call it “stage 6.” Basically i have to go fishing (or at least be on or near the water). I’m sure I could survive without going fishing, but it would probably be in an asylum or prison. If I don’t go for fishing for anytime longer than a week straight, my personality turns sour. I have to fight hard to keep from freaking out inside my brain without fishing. I think and read about fishing pretty much all day and night when I’m off the water. I have been locked into this “stage 6” since age 2 from what I’ve been told. There is no cure other than fishing. I don’t necessarily care what size, species, or number of fish we catch, I just need to go fishing really really bad. Like I posted somewhere, I fish for trout and I don’t even like them. Maybe I’ll go after some hornpout one day! (Probably not as I imagine they are nowhere near my house). I suppose I was born to go fishing somewhere deep inside my being. Fish are also my main source of food. Sure I’d rather have beef tenderloin all the time but it costs money and I have to drive to a grocery store and walk all through it to acquire beef. Let’s take a poll: would you rather drive to a grocery store and walk all through it or go fishing? Pretty simple for me. Also I would always rather go fishing with other people as opposed to alone. I feel like most experiences in life are better when shared with others, kind of like the final lesson that Alexander supertramp (Christopher mccandless) learned the hard way (Into the Wild is the name of the book/movie). He wanted to be alone in the wild and his final message was to share experiences with other humans, the opposite of what he was doing in the school bus in which he lived in remote Alaska 

A horn pout is just a northern name for a bullhead catfish.

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48 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Let’s recap ~

 Stage 1 ~ I want to catch Bass – any Bass.

 Stage 2 ~ I want to catch as many Bass as I can.

 Stage 3 ~ I want to catch a Big Bass

 Stage 4 ~ I want to catch bass the way I want to catch Bass.

 Stage 5 ~ I want to help other folks catch Bass.

 

 So this is where I ask “Where do you did sit and how did you get there ? “

 

I would say I am at stage 2 and 3.  Stage 4 happens on occasion because there are certain ways we all like to fish.  I think topwater fishing is the most exciting way to fish but realistically its not effective very often.

 

Stage 2 and 3 happened in staggering output this past season for me.  I caught more AND bigger bass than I ever have in a single season.  Most of the people I fish with already know how to bass fish so there's really nothing I can do to help them, other than being specific on where and what lures are effective at the time.

 

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I think I'm at different stages at different times of the year.  In the winter when there isn't ice covering the pond I'm at stage 1.  I know there are fish out there, just getting them to not be sluggish and bite whatever I'm throwing at them is the goal.  Any fish any size will do.  When I'm river fishing I'm in stage 2. I like the big ones, but catching as many as I can in the time I'm on the river is my goal.  Fighting little smallmouth can be just as fun as catching the big ones sometimes, and having as many on the end of my rod as possible meets that goal.  In the summer on the pond I'm in stage 3, looking for that big one that I know is out there because others have caught them and released them back to be caught again.  Stage 4 is a weird one for me, I don't use many techniques, and the ones I do produce for me and I'm comfortable with using them because of that.  Whenever I try to switch it up with something new and don't have success with them, I'm always back to my tried and true methods.  I'm always in stage 5 mode.  I have two daughters and a lot of younger nieces and nephews and they are all into fishing and always looking to me for advice on how to catch more fish, be it pan fish, bass, trout, whatever.  And I'm always willing to teach them, and most importantly how to fish correctly, using the right knots, and how to use specific lures and whatnot.

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I forgot to add something in my initial reply. I’m a junkie for watching a-jays videos on YouTube. One of my favorite phrases he uses when he’s got a fish in front of the GoPro is “very exciting!” Pretty much sums up the joy we all feel with a bass in hand 

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I am stage 3 and 5. 

 

#3  I don't care anything about little fish. Go big or go home.

 

#5  My best year was putting twelve guys on their Personal Best.

        On the last two trips I have spent half my time "guiding" and not

         fishing at all.

 

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Good Winter time subject. Based on what you said I have gone through all stages and now fish for whatever species I want, whenever I want, with whatever technique I choose. I will go out of my way to help someone if they ask me nicely but I prefer fishing with my Wife, family, and close friends. With that said I will continue to learn more about fishing since fishing is hobby you learn for a lifetime.

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Been through all the stages, but not quite in that order. My progression was more like 1,2,5,4,3.

 

Stage 1 lasted just a few years in my early teens.

Stage 2 followed quickly, and lasted about 30 years - lol - which was pretty much my tournament phase. 

Stage 5 was the creation of my own fishing website that I started after "retiring" from tourney life. It lasted about 12 years, got me a lot of local recognition, and helped/entertained a lot of people based on the feedback I've received, but I finally closed that chapter of my life out a little while back.

Stage 4 overlapped somewhat with Stage 5, and is where I've been for the past 5-8 years. I fish on my terms now, when I want, with who I want, for what I want (I've become much more multi-species, just like when I first started - Stage 0? - lol), and how I want to catch them.

Stage 3 is where I've just started dabbling the past few years. I've never especially cared about big fish. Catch all the fish I can catch, and some of them are bound to be big just by chance and probability. Always been fine with that outcome. But I'm getting more intrigued with the idea of fishing for better quality fish these days, and have studied that aspect for several years, only starting to put some of the pieces into play this year. Seriously looking to jump more into that avenue again in 2021.

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I'm A combination of stages 3-5..I wanna catch big bass on a bait I want to use and when I figure it out I wanna help others get in on the pattern and catch a big one. I've got a good friend whose a pretty good angler and its been my goal the past several years to try and figure out  a way for him to break his PB locally which is around 6lbs. That's A really solid fish around here and alot of guys never get one that big but I've put in thousands of hours over the years learning my local ponds...studying fish movements...studying local forage species...figuring out bite windows during weird weather when other people won't be out. So this year he had alot going on and because of that plus covid we never fished together during optimum big fish times...which is a bummer because I caught 4 bass in the 6+ range so I think he had a legit shot. Maybe next year!

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Good stuff, A-Jay.  I guess I'm in all five stages.  But to me, BASS really means smallmouth bass.  If I lived somewhere else where I had a shot at double digit LMB, it would be different.  But here in MI, the 4, 5, and now and then 6 pound SMB is what turns me on.  A couple years ago I figured that 6 people had taken their personal best SMB from my boat in the 2-3 previous years.  That was pretty neat to consider.

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I guess I vacillate between S-3 and S-4. I have no one whom I could progress to S-5 with (although I do like to try and help younger folks I run into when fishing from the bank). 
 

I am willing to forego catching any bass for the sake of catching bigger bass, but I do like to fish the way I like vs what may be a better option. Unlike you, A-Jay, I’m not a guy who loves casting and cranking, casting and cranking, all day long. I’m more a soft plastic and topwater angler. I may miss opportunities not using certain baits, but if I’m enjoying my day, that’s all that counts. 

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I want to catch numbers and big ones . Thats what I strive to do each day I go out in the boat for 8 plus hours . I'm a lot better at the numbers than the big ones but get them too, some years better than others .

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For me, stage one was 1966, fishing each summer with my older brother. We fished farm ponds each evening on my grandpas farm.                                                    This was for three summers, untill my brother left for his tour in Vietnam, and I was on my own.                                                       My other stages have been much like yours A -Jay, obsessed with bass fishing. I think now at 63, I'm more enthusiastic than ever.                                    One of the best stages for me has been fishing and spending time with my grandson Aiden. It's been cool to watch his enthusiasm grow, and watch him improve as a fisherman. Thanks for a great post A-Jay!

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Stage 1 for me was to just catch fish .Like AJ ,  I also rode my single speed stingray bike in the hot summer sun for miles , just to catch a sack full of bullheads . Stage 2 was club and tournament fishing , where I tried to emulate the pros and win tourneys . I had some success but it wasnt  for me . Now I'm back to stage 1 . Much more theraputic .

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Oh man, I know I can't be the only one who checks the forum, sees @A-Jay has written a book and can't wait to find time to read it, like a kid on Christmas eve wanting into his or her toys, I think this anticipation should keep me motivated through the remainder of the days drudgery. 

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6 minutes ago, Sphynx said:

Oh man, I know I can't be the only one who checks the forum, sees @A-Jay has written a book and can't wait to find time to read it, like a kid on Christmas eve wanting into his or her toys, I think this anticipation should keep me motivated through the remainder of the days drudgery. 

Indeed sir..A-jay is equal parts helpful and entertaining.

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5 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

Indeed sir..A-jay is equal parts helpful and entertaining.

I'm sure Lynn agrees with you.

 

(Did I say that out loud?)

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21 minutes ago, Sphynx said:

Oh man, I know I can't be the only one who checks the forum, sees @A-Jay has written a book and can't wait to find time to read it, like a kid on Christmas eve wanting into his or her toys, I think this anticipation should keep me motivated through the remainder of the days drudgery. 

 

14 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

Indeed sir..A-jay is equal parts helpful and entertaining.

 

7 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I'm sure Lynn agrees with you.

 

(Did I say that out loud?)

 

Thanks a lot for the support, I really appreciate it.

 Lynn's my proof reader.

And she has no problem routinely 'red lining' much of my, let's call them,

more colorful submissions.

Still love her though . . . . 

:smiley:

A-Jay

 

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Just now, A-Jay said:

 

 

 

Thanks a lot for the support, I really appreciate it.

 Lynn's my proof reader.

And she has no problem routinely 'red lining' much of my, let's call them,

more colorful submissions.

Still love her though . . . . 

:smiley:

A-Jay

 

Well, you have to have some redeeming qualities if she's kept you around this long.

 

 - Hey, Nora (my wife) still wants me around after over 30 years, so I must be doing something right.

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