Be still, my beating heart. New Zillion 1000 vid

[fishwizzard]

39 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

I should clarify..I was answering for the new steez and zillion. I have no idea about the new alphas spool but I think i read is either 32 or 33mm...there's a video somewhere of a guy swapping the new steez LTD in to a steez SVTW and then a fairly detailed overview/review of the zillion and it's spool /w spec comparisons /w the current. He said there's the same dimensions and can be used as previous 34mm. The new sVboost zillion spool, however, is a whopping 13.4g /w bearing....I haven't seen the weight of the new steez spool but i've only seen a couple people recieve them.

 

 

I had given up hope that the Alphas spool would be compatible, it would be amazing if it was though.  

 

I am not worried about the spool weight really.  Weight only really "matters" when comparing spools with the same braking system, if the new SV Boot is designed around a heavier spool then there is no reason to assume it's going to affect the performance.  

[iabass8]

26 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

On another forum a member says the new steez Ltd spool weighs 13 grams vs the 13.4 gram zillion spool. Is a 13.4 gram spool heavy? 

no....I guess my whooping comment was taken different than what I thought.  I was implying that the spool weight was still relatively lightweight for what the reel uses demographic is set at. for reference, the RCS g1 steez 1016 SVTW spool is 9g and the previous zillion svtw spool is 12g. 

[PhishLI]

4 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Cool promo but I don’t see anything really innovative or even new except maybe the new SV spool which is just an improvement on existing design.

You're right, but isn't that a good thing? Starting with the Tatula 300, they've decided to turn back the clock for these new models to mostly metal reels with uncompromised gearboxes. Some are made in Japan too. Remember when made in Japan would elicit a stink face, or yuck? Now it brings a sigh of relief or it's even a point of pride, just like made in Germany or Sweden is or used to be.

[swhit140]

Nice looking reel, simple finish colors. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

2 hours ago, PhishLI said:

You're right, but isn't that a good thing? Starting with the Tatula 300, they've decided to turn back the clock for these new models to mostly metal reels with uncompromised gearboxes. Some are made in Japan too. Remember when made in Japan would elicit a stink face, or yuck? Now it brings a sigh of relief or even a point of pride, just like made in Germany or Sweden is or used to be.

Nothing bad about it, just tickles me to see how they try to hype old news. I get it, it’s a wildly competitive industry and you have to move product to stay in business. Remember 99% of the fishing public is uninitiated in the techno geek stuff we discuss here. 

[diehardbassfishing]

If only the FISH could pick out the fishing equipment...

 

 

Karl

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, diehardbassfishing said:

If only the FISH could pick out the fishing equipment

Never ever listen to a fish, governor. They lie. Trust your monkey.

[GreenPig]

9 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Nothing bad about it, just tickles me to see how they try to hype old news. I get it, it’s a wildly competitive industry and you have to move product to stay in business. Remember 99% of the fishing public is uninitiated in the techno geek stuff we discuss here. 

But aren't they targeting that 1% that know the techno geek stuff with a $358 reel? 

[islandbass]

I ain’t biting, but if you ask me, it looks like it could also take out aliens and predators. Dang, lol!

[evilcatfish]

These new Daiwas all look very Shimano-ish to me...

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

17 hours ago, GreenPig said:

But aren't they targeting that 1% that know the techno geek stuff with a $358 reel? 

Not necessarily. Lots of people with deep pockets that aren’t as into the weeds on this stuff as we are. 

[WRB]

I enjoyed the Daiwa presentation very well done.

Prices always shock me what bass anglers will pat for state of the art reels. Daiwa for example has fresh spinning reel for $850, $360:for the Zillion is a bargain by comparison.

Tom

[PhishLI]

21 hours ago, islandbass said:

I ain’t biting

OK, I get, but hold on a sec! Let's takes a peek into the future. Shall we? Come along!

 

It's 2027 and the bean counters at Daiwa have been counting beans. The 2028 lineup's been released to both boos and mouths agape. With each new unveiling video the cryboys over at TT are weeping in their Cocoa Puffs. They pine away recalling the Halcyon days of 2021. Hoarders start hoarding. Stocks evaporate. Boat rash'd and fished in the salt "New OGs" are bidding war'd up to into stratosphere. One Zillion 1000 actually sells for a Zillion $, and the winner feels lucky! The losers fight for the scraps. It's a bloodbath. That won't be me! Not this time. No Siree.?

[Chris at Tech]

That's a good lookin' reel.  But I bet it'll be a pain in the butt to service the flux capacitor

[newapti5]

A little too rich for my blood. I mean, everything about it seems nice, but I probably wouldn't spend >300 bucks on a Zillion, unless it's the TD-Z platform. I would rather put it on another Metanium, or 2 Tatulas. The most intriguing part is the new SV boost brake. Other than that, meh. I'd wait for Daiwa to trickle down that technology to other cheaper models. That usually doesn't take too long.

[BrianMDTX]

On 12/28/2020 at 4:24 PM, WRB said:

I enjoyed the Daiwa presentation very well done.

Prices always shock me what bass anglers will pat for state of the art reels. Daiwa for example has fresh spinning reel for $850, $360:for the Zillion is a bargain by comparison.

Tom

Reminds me of bowhunting. Some will buy a new $$$$ bow every year to gain an advantage but the technology doesn’t advance that fast. Plus you have to tune and tweak it vs the bow you already shoot well. 

 

I have no issues with paying good money for good equipment, but many simply chase an advantage with their wallets that never reap dividends. 

 

But $850.00 for a spinning reel? Wow. What’s it do? ?

[TimTheGearNerd]

On 12/28/2020 at 8:34 PM, PhishLI said:

OK, I get, but hold on a sec! Let's takes a peek into the future. Shall we? Come along!

 

It's 2027 and the bean counters at Daiwa have been counting beans. The 2028 lineup's been released to both boos and mouths agape. With each new unveiling video the cryboys over at TT are weeping in their Cocoa Puffs. They pine away recalling the Halcyon days of 2021. Hoarders start hoarding. Stocks evaporate. Boat rash'd and fished in the salt "New OGs" are bidding war'd up to into stratosphere. One Zillion 1000 actually sells for a Zillion $, and the winner feels lucky! The losers fight for the scraps. It's a bloodbath. That won't be me! Not this time. No Siree.?

A poet is among us, well written sir, your title also got my attention initially. 

 

I am just amazed at the Daiwa tech vs Shimano. Looking at the zillion and all the T-wing in general, I see the required wider body, then I look at the new Met B and see they solved the same problem with a big line guide and narrow spool. 
 

I see the new zillion breaking the same way, seems like the same problems are being solved in different ways. Seems like Shimano solved it better first, I’m curious what the reviews say about the comparison.  I’ve always been a fan of zillions since the TDZ. The way they designed the hefty drive gear to almost feel like the reel turns itself is magic. 

[moguy1973]

That's for sure to catch some fish-ermen.

[PhishLI]

7 hours ago, Tim Hu said:

I am just amazed at the Daiwa tech vs Shimano.

As long as these two companies keep pushing each other, the greater industry, and the envelope, it's good times for us. Regardless of preference, there will be be plenty of smiling Met B and Zillion owners out there. $350 street price for heirloom quality metal reels seems like a bargain these days, and is within reach. Not bad.

[GReb]

I’ll stick with the Elites, SVs and Coastals. It’s a good looking reel though. I have too many rods to warrant spending close to $400 after tax on one reel. I just don’t fish enough and when I do I’m rotating through a dozen setups 

[Sir Shamsalot]

On 12/30/2020 at 10:29 AM, Tim Hu said:

A poet is among us, well written sir, your title also got my attention initially. 

 

I am just amazed at the Daiwa tech vs Shimano. Looking at the zillion and all the T-wing in general, I see the required wider body, then I look at the new Met B and see they solved the same problem with a big line guide and narrow spool. 
 

I see the new zillion breaking the same way, seems like the same problems are being solved in different ways. Seems like Shimano solved it better first, I’m curious what the reviews say about the comparison.  I’ve always been a fan of zillions since the TDZ. The way they designed the hefty drive gear to almost feel like the reel turns itself is magic. 

I think that actually Denny Brauer and his Ardent Apex Flippin reels may have solved it first with its super narrow spool and absolute cannon for a line guide. Granted that line guide was fixed, so it was not the best for line management. Yet, he appears to have been on to something.

[J Francho]

So, it toasts both sides of the bread?

[Derek1]

That’s pretty sweet. Cool video, very dramatic. They should have used James earl jones for the voice over work. 

[PhishLI]

Somewhere out there a little birdie is chirping about this reel. Sounds like love. Sez it's a long caster during limited tests. Maybe he'll sing his song here?

[Sir Shamsalot]

$330 for the USDM version not made in Japan. It has brass gears instead of aluminum, weights in at 6.7oz, and retains the higher 13lb drag. If it can skip like an SV, and then cast like an Elite (rumors are it's casting futher), what's not to like? 

 

I do like the looks of the paint scheme, it reminds me alot of the brushed aluminum that's under the paint. 

Edited January 21, 2021 by Sir Shamsalot
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