Junk Fisherman Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 14 lb YGK G-Soul and 6 lb Gamma Edge. The Gamma's thickness is comparable to other lines' 8 lb diameter. It's abrasion resistance is great and I've tried a bunch of them. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Junk Fisherman said: 14 lb YGK G-Soul and 6 lb Gamma Edge. The Gamma's thickness is comparable to other lines' 8 lb diameter. It's abrasion resistance is great and I've tried a bunch of them. 6 lb Gammy Edge is .010D = to Sunline and Seagar 10 lb FC. Tom 1 Quote
Junk Fisherman Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, WRB said: 6 lb Gammy Edge is .010D = to Sunline and Seagar 10 lb FC. Tom P-Line Tactical and Original 8 lb 0.010 Gamma Touch 8 lb 0.0095 Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon 8 lb 0.011 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Junk Fisherman said: P-Line Tactical and Original 8 lb 0.010 Gamma Touch 8 lb 0.0095 Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon 8 lb 0.011 Use .010D line and forget the 6 lb test Gammy rating, it’s 10 lb FC. Tom Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 Around here 6# fluorocarbon line will get twice as many bites as even 8#. 1 Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 I have used 10# fireline for years with or without a leader. I use the flouro leader for a little extra abrasion resistance. Leader is 10lb red label and if I need to break off it breaks at the jig and not the main line leader knot. 1 Quote
Junk Fisherman Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, WRB said: Use .010D line and forget the 6 lb test Gammy rating, it’s 10 lb FC. Tom 8 and 10 lb fluorocarbon line diameter was a rabbit hole I did not think I would go down tonight. I averaged 10 popular fluorocarbon lines in 8 and 10 lb sizes based on the diameter listed on Tackle Warehouse (Yeah, I am bored). The 8 lb had an average of 0.00996 and the 10 lb had an average of 0.01075. For what it's worth.... Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 Let me try to clarify my point. Yo-Zuri 6 lb Is .010D and Gammy 6 lb FC is .010D. Both are 10 lb test line labeled 6 lb. Why not label the 6 lb Gammy 4 lb, then it would even stronger! Actually it’s not stronger because of it’s labeled lb test. It’s .010D / 8 or 10 lb line regardless of how it is marketed. Sunline and Seagar have honest D to lb test ratings; .010D is labeled 10 lb test, not 6 lb test like Gammy and Yo-Zuri does. Peace, don’t get stuck in a rabbit hole. Merry Christmas! Tom PS, 14 lb YGK is only .005D! Wow very small D per lb test braid. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 5 hours ago, colefarrow_ said: So I have 8# power pro braided line for finesse fishing(1/16 oz Ned rigs and 1/8 I believe). With a 6 pound fluro leader. Will this hold up. Or should I size up to 10# Power Pro. P.s. I saw a post on what line you should use with Ned Rigs, and everyone was using 10#. Just seeing if 8# will work. Thanks -Cole. No issues with 8# PP braid - it will work fine. All I used for years for finesse until switching to YGK more recently. Might consider bumping your leader up to 8# though if using FC. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 6 or 8 lb Sufix Advance Mono.Super low stretch and handles better than flourocarbon. Quote
LCG Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 20lb suffix 832 braid to 6lb mono leader, that's really the diameter of 8lb. I prefer the 20lb braid as it easier for me to tie knots and I have not had a single wind knot since switching to higher pound test, also changed the reel at the same time, but I am not going to change it when it works well. No issues with leader knots either. I think it's because the diameters are very close to the same. 1 Quote
JS Patterson Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 I use 15 lb braid with a 7 ft leader of 8# big game. I know this is a unusual leader choice but it does something to the action of a 1/16 that gets me more bites. My best 3 bass of the year came on this setup with 2 over 7 lbs. It also landed a 13 lb carp. The braid is for casting distance. 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 I use 8lb J-Braid to 7lb Sniper when I care about casting distance and 6lb Supernatural Mono when I don't. I am firmly in the "tiny heads w/ tiny hooks" camp and on a straight pull the 6lb mono will bend out my hooks most of the time, so there isn't much advantage to going much heavier. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 21, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 21, 2020 No votes for 65 lb braid? I thought I read on here that fish weren’t line shy and would bite a lure attach to steel winch cable ? 1 5 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 #8 lb. ~ #10 lb. Hi - Viz Yellow Power Pro Braid Main Line #6 lb. ~ # 8 lb. Seaguar FC InvizX Leader #7 lb. Sunline FC Sniper Leader *!0 foot leader lengths now with no fear of winding a good double uni knot up into the spinning reel spool . Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 21, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Hook2Jaw said: For all ya folks thinking you need braid to increase breaking strength but you're slapping on a leader, your line is only as strong as the weak point. The braid will increase your casting distance and up your sensitivity, but tying 10# braid to 6# fluorocarbon in no way increases your pop off point, or p.o.p. It's not for break strain. Braid floats, causing a parachute effect with a light bait on the fall an further increases the effectiveness of the Ned rig. It also helps keep the line out of bad places (zebra mussel covered rocks in my case). No stretch eliminates the need for a hard hookset, a reel and lift set is all that is needed. The buoyancy, combined with hi-vis colors makes it easy to line watch as a lot of bites happen on the fall. Braid cast further than the other lines with the light bait. I use 20lb Seaguar Smackdown Flame Green/8lb Seaguar Gold Label or Tatsu leader. 1 Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 Berkley Fireline Ultra 8 Crystal 8lb to 7' of Seaguar Red Label 6lb for my Ned fishing. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 Depend which reel, either straight 6lb Izorline or 8-10lb braid to either Abrazx 10-12lb FC or 8lb Izorline . I do drag Ned rig some time and don’t want my line draging around rock too much with full FC. Quote
Super User ATA Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 I have 15lb braid on my finesse combo and always have Fluorocarbon 6lb Vanish, Because it is lower cost and I change my leader so many times(few times a day) and sometimes I have up to 30ft leader depending on condition. Quote
PourMyOwn Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 I'm about halfway through a 3000yd spool of Silver Thread 6lb copoly. I wither use it straight or with as a leader with 20lb braid. Quote
newapti5 Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Where I fish for smallmouths is mostly big chunks of rocks and boulders with sharp edges, and I mostly use 10~15lb braid with Seaguar fluoro as leaders. Blue label, AbrazX, or even STS, which has a little thicker diameter than others. If I used anything less than #10 Seaguar, it will get frayed quite quickly, and I am tired of constant re-ties or breakoffs. Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted December 22, 2020 Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 1:17 AM, Bluebasser86 said: It's not for break strain. Braid floats, causing a parachute effect with a light bait on the fall an further increases the effectiveness of the Ned rig. It also helps keep the line out of bad places (zebra mussel covered rocks in my case). No stretch eliminates the need for a hard hookset, a reel and lift set is all that is needed. The buoyancy, combined with hi-vis colors makes it easy to line watch as a lot of bites happen on the fall. Braid cast further than the other lines with the light bait. I use 20lb Seaguar Smackdown Flame Green/8lb Seaguar Gold Label or Tatsu leader. I wasn't accusing every braid to leader user of mistakenly thinking their breaking point would increase, just those in this thread that were. I use 15# Berkley X9 to 6# Berkley 100% Fluorocarbon and reap all the benefits you listed. As far as parachuting the presentation, I'd have to switch braid for that. X9 sinks pretty well in comparison to other braids I've used. I also wasn't aware that I was making the bait pendulum down with a floating braid, excellent point, sir. 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted December 22, 2020 Super User Posted December 22, 2020 I thought some 20lb braid and some FC leader would be killer for the Ned rig but that was not the case for me. I went back to 6lb Trilene XL 100% FC and have had much better luck. The braid and leader combo just felt off, like the bait had less feel on the bottom> Which does seem right to me but that was the case. So sticking with 6lb FC moving forward. I also have used Tatsu 10lb on a baitcaster with a 7' M Fast rod and it this has been my favorite set up for the Ned Rig. Quote
Plottman1974 Posted December 22, 2020 Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 4:09 PM, TnRiver46 said: 6 lb mono. this. triline xl 2 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 4:51 PM, MickD said: With the diameters you are going to use there is no reason to use any other line to leader knot than the double uni, clearly the most reliable line to leader knot. Will not be too big with your line/leader. The double uni is almost impossible to screw up. Uni Uni is a good knot when the 2 line are of equal dia., but as far as breaking strength and line flow there are much better knots that aren't difficult at all. Quote
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