Tilt and trim assembly on an 85 horse Force engine

[BassChump]

I have a 1984 Bayliner Trophy bass boat with an 84 model year 85 horse engine. It has tilt already but not trim. I have a guy that is going to give me a good unit except the pump is bad. I am assuming my pump will work on it but I'm not sure.

Is the pump the same for both the trim and tilt??

Is this just a bolt on application if the unit is off the same kind of engine?

If you know anything about this type of stuff, I'd really appreciate it.

       Thanks

[Dad_Golf_Fish]

If you know anything about this type of stuff, I'd really appreciate it.

      Thanks

I don't know anything about this type of stuff, but I do have an '88 Force 85 with tilt/trim. When I get home letter, I can get you the info from my pump if it would help.

[BassChump]

That would be great. I appreciate your help. The tilt/trim units are all the same for 60 to 120 hp engines from 1983 to sometime into the 90's. That I know.

I'm hoping I can just bolt on the ram for the trim, reroute the hydraulic lines and be done with it.

That's what I'm hoping anyway.

[bass or bass ?]

I think the solution to your problem is to just put your boat in the warm water lakes in the Phoenix area, lol.

~B.A.S.S.~N.A.F.C.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~

[Dad_Golf_Fish]

Ok, it's dark and raining out, so I couldn't visually verify this, but I have the original parts bulletin from Force Outboards on this. This applies to Chryslers 1971-1984 and Force motors 1984-1992.

The part number for the entire assembly is:

F694541-2 Power Trim & Tilt Pump/Motor Assembly

This is the whole unit with motor/reservoir/gearcase.

It looks like there were no original replacements made after 1996, but the replacement part can be had from Mercury with a part number of 853515A1 which is the 4 line hydraulic system for the 70-150hp motors.

Now you just need someone a lot smarter than me to tell you what all that means.

[BassChump]

Hey Bass or Bass, I'm working on it. We got an offer on the place a few days ago but unfortunately the guy has no money and didn't qualify for much of a loan. He wanted us to lower the price by 70k and also carry a second on him for 73K and to top it off, he wanted to only pay 5% interest on the 2nd for 5 years. I couldn't do it so it's back to square one unless he can find some money.

I'll be coming down there in 2 weeks so I'll give you a heads up and I'll see what all the heat is really about. lol.

Dad_Golg_Fish,  Thanks for the info. I can call a boat shop with those numbers and see what I can find. I'll let you know what I come up with. Thanks again for your help.

[BassChump]

UPDATE:  I NOW HAVE POWER TRIM/TILT. WOOHOO!

I got the power trim/tilt unit from Mels Marine in Eugene Oregon. As usual, these guys were very helpful. The unit I got from them worked in every way with the exception of the electric motor that runs the pump. It was just a bolt on application. I didn't have to remove the engine. I just removed the pump from my system, bolted on the pump from the new system, added the ram assembly, hooked up the hydraulic lines, filled the resevior( believe it or not, that was the most difficult part), and everything works great.

Many thanks to those guys at Mels Marine. They were and always have been a great bunch and I appreciate thier knowledge and all the time they have spent on my boat.