billmac Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 One of the hardest things for me to make myself do is getting away from cast and crank. I know pausing and twitching and jerking various baits are proven techniques, but it is really hard for me to force myself to do it. I vary retrieve speeds OK, but that's about it. Two of my best bass the last couple seasons hit when I wasn't paying attention and accidentally reeled backwards (basically pausing the retrieve) and I still find it hard to do intentionally. Maybe that's why I'm not much of a topwater fisherman (other than whopper plopper type baits). Anyone else? Quote
InfantryMP Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 I have always gave a little jerk here and there, usually in an upward direction. I guess I have done it so much, it is one of those things I do not even think about anymore. I have not caught a bass this year on a square bill however....I catch on lipless all the time, and chatterbaits. I think adjusting your retrieve, and even a pause will work well, especially in the colder water days. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 15, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 15, 2020 The one thing I’ve never had much luck with is “cast and crank.” I can’t stand it. A buzzbait is the only lure that works with for me 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 I cast and crank a lot with success . Retrieving spinnerbaits Jimmy Houston style has accounted for hundreds of bass this year . 3 Quote
Sphynx Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 Depends on the lure for me, I am usually cognizant of my retrieve and will alter it if the old chuck and wind isn't doing it for me, I do struggle with this on bladed jigs though, probably because I don't buy jackhammers and thunder crickets and don't like having to restart the blade on my account, squarebills I do this with a lot out of habit, because I almost never get bit on one with a monotonous retrieve. Quote
swhit140 Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 I always have a crankbait tied on, I have a lot of confidence with them. I had a few 20-40 fish days using a crankbait this past season. If they are biting the crankbait I'll be throwing it until I feel the need to change. Quote
CountryboyinDC Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 I guess it depends on what you're fishing, but there's worse things. You can't really fish a buzzbait much of any other way, and David Fritts is a legend of just casting and cranking those crankbaits. Topwater plugs except the Whopper Plopper type don't generate much interest that way. Quote
Super User Spankey Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 Keep doing what you are doing. That pause was the ticket. Not sure what kind of bait you were using (here nor there) but in my mind I can see that bass crushing that bait on the stopped slow rise pause. Bait most likely had a rising flutter to it and the bass couldn’t resist it. Years ago I heard crankbaits refered to as idiot baits. I guess I’m an idiot, and I like being an idiot. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 My PB was on a crank bait. I was just cranking, bored. Haha. on a kayak, a big crank bait will pull my kayak out of position. Something I need to learn how to adjust to. 2 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 @billmac, maybe @Glennwill let you change your BR name to Chuck N Wind. 1 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, CountryboyinDC said: I guess it depends on what you're fishing, but there's worse things. You can't really fish a buzzbait much of any other way, and David Fritts is a legend of just casting and cranking those crankbaits. Topwater plugs except the Whopper Plopper type don't generate much interest that way. This summer I was tossing a buzzbait and my hand slipped off the reel. The buzzbait dipped below the water, and when I went to pull it back up, I had a fish on it! So I tried that a few more times, and it worked again! I did pretty well that morning, and every bite came on that buzzbait, right when I paused it. Since then, I will often try to pause the buzzbait near cover if a steady retrieve isn't working. Usually for only a half second pause. Just long enough for it to disappear below the surface. 2 Quote
CountryboyinDC Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 @Bankc, I've tried that myself (in addition to it happening inadvertently) quite a bit, thinking it may be like a spinnerbait and trigger a bite, but it's never brought me any luck. I may try it again sometime. Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 5 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: The one thing I’ve never had much luck with is “cast and crank.” I can’t stand it. A buzzbait is the only lure that works with for me I actually use a slight pause on a buzzbait retrieve with great results. Quote
Big Rick Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, Jigfishn10 said: I actually use a slight pause on a buzzbait retrieve with great results. I do the exact opposite. I give my rod a quick twitch to make the blade sputter like a shad busting the surface. All in all, it's a change in cadence or direction that incites a bass to strike. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 Cast and crank how I fish crankbaits and spinnerbaits. I will let the baits be still for a few seconds, but my retrieve will be steady and slow. Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 I can definitely see that working very well @Big Rick. 100%! I read about the pause thing many years ago. Almost positive it was an article by Zell Rowland. Great post. Perfect! Quote
Shimano_1 Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 I used to have a hard time slowing down but over the years I've figured out how badly I was hurting my fishing. I go to catch fish. If that requires fast moving baits, jigs, long pauses with jerkbaits or a ned rig fished slowly...im game. My dad fishes with me a lot and unless they're smashing something moving fast I always give him a beat down lol. Ive cashed a lot more checks probably fishing things others won't or don't because its too slow. Even when I'm fishing something fast I give it pauses and jerks. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 8 hours ago, billmac said: One of the hardest things for me to make myself do is getting away from cast and crank. I know pausing and twitching and jerking various baits are proven techniques, but it is really hard for me to force myself to do it. I vary retrieve speeds OK, but that's about it. Two of my best bass the last couple seasons hit when I wasn't paying attention and accidentally reeled backwards (basically pausing the retrieve) and I still find it hard to do intentionally. Maybe that's why I'm not much of a topwater fisherman (other than whopper plopper type baits). Anyone else? Consider this; bass are active to very active about 20% of the time and willing to chase down a fast moving lure. Tom Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted December 16, 2020 Super User Posted December 16, 2020 I have noticed that I can get a lot of picky fish to bite if I add pauses in the retrieve. Other times reeling fast gets the reaction bite. Some days they will bite with any technique you use. You have to experiment and see what they want especially in pressured waters. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 16, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 16, 2020 My mind wanders too much if I start just simply casting and reeling a bait in. I have to constantly do something during the retrieve to keep myself engaged and focused. Quote
Super User Koz Posted December 16, 2020 Super User Posted December 16, 2020 Do you want to stop the cast and crank? Here's what you do: 1. Cast 2. Crank - Crank 3. Open Bass Resource on your phone 4. Crank - Crank - Crank 5. Check email 6. Crank - Crank 7. Check social media 8. Crank - Crank - Crank 9. Call your mother (long pause) 10. Crank - Crank 11. Repeat as needed and cast again. 1 Quote
tander Posted December 16, 2020 Posted December 16, 2020 <<<<I hardly ever stop, twitch a crankbait or spinnerbait. I throw it out and reel it in. Quote
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