colefarrow_ Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 I just got a 7’6 medium and fast rod. Will this be good for flipping 1/2 oz jigs into weeds and timber? Thanks! 1 Quote
The Maestro Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 I wouldn't use a medium powered rod for flipping weeds. I have a mh that I use but it was designed specifically as a flipping stick. 1 Quote
Michigander Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 You'll probably be undergunned. And might have hookset issues if you use too heavy a wire of hook. But it will certainly toss them in there. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 I'd go minimum of a Medium-Heavy for flipping a 1/2oz...I use a Heavy for all my flipping. 3 Quote
Michigander Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, MN Fisher said: I'd go minimum of a Medium-Heavy for flipping a 1/2oz...I use a Heavy for all my flipping. I have a 3/4H, a H, and a XH for my pitching needs. Just depends how gnarly the cover is. For the OP, one big reason I wouldn't use a medium is because it probably won't have the power to get the fish out of the junk before it gets you wrapped up in it. A good size fish is going to feel the hookset and run as deep into the cover as it's able. By the time the medium fully loads, it could be too late. 3 Quote
GTN-NY Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 I miss the old style flippin stick that compacted down to 5’. I have a 8’ 13 Fishing Envy Black Hvy. It’s a nice rod but it’s so long. Especially since I’m in a kayak Quote
Michigander Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, GTN said: I miss the old style flippin stick that compacted down to 5’. I have a 8’ 13 Fishing Envy Black Hvy. It’s a nice rod but it’s so long. Especially since I’m in a kayak I've been getting by fine with a 6' heavy in the kayak. Just built a 6'6" H to replace it. Now I won't be jabbing myself in the stomach as much because I made the handle section appropriate for me while sitting. 8' is way longer than I would want to deal with in a kayak, lol. Quote
Lead Head Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 What is the line and lure weight rating on the rod? Those are far better indicators of what a rod will do than medium/medium heavy/heavy. Also keep in mind that a 1/2oz jig with a trailer will probably weigh closer to 3/4oz. Quote
Super User Teal Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, colefarrow_ said: I just got a 7’6 medium and fast rod. Will this be good for flipping 1/2 oz jigs into weeds and timber? Thanks! No. It would not. It wont do great with heavy hooks.. maybe with light wire jigs or t RIGS. Around thick stuff I want a MH at the least, even using braid. You may be fine with lighter jigs as long as you arent right up in thick cover. But overall, a medium action rod will not ever be a thick cover rod. You may catch a few, but in the long run, you will lose fish and maybe even break a rod Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 You can flip with any rod of your choosing, no special gear is required to make a flip cast. I would not attempt to toss a bait in anything other than fairly sparse cover with a medium power rod. 3 Quote
Super User Teal Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 I'm sorry didnt mean to come off as Mr.Negativity. I want to to clarify, a 7'6 M Fast, would be a good rod for serval things. The sole limitations would be in thick vegetation, brush, and possible around docks. If around docks, the longer length will help to move fish. Braid couldbhelp in weeds. If not a flipping stick, that length and power would be a great ling range rod for moving baits. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 It comes down to flipping vs pitching. Flipping the reel doesn’t release line the rod does all the lifting. Pitching the reel releases line and the rod cast the lure out to 30’ or more. Dought many anglers stand and flip cast in a kayak, they pitch. If the OP is using braid to cut though the aquatic cover and the rod can control the size bass he is catching why not? Depends on the rod and size of bass. Tom 1 Quote
colefarrow_ Posted December 14, 2020 Author Posted December 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, Lead Head said: What is the line and lure weight rating on the rod? Those are far better indicators of what a rod will do than medium/medium heavy/heavy. Also keep in mind that a 1/2oz jig with a trailer will probably weigh closer to 3/4oz. 10-20 pound fluro/mono 1/4- 3/4 heres the link https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/falcon-hd-76-freshwater-saltwater-casting-rod#repChildCatSku=017864349 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, WRB said: Dought many anglers stand and flip cast in a kayak, they pitch. With an XXXH flipping stick, actually, yes. It's killer. 1 Quote
colefarrow_ Posted December 14, 2020 Author Posted December 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Teal said: I'm sorry didnt mean to come off as Mr.Negativity. I want to to clarify, a 7'6 M Fast, would be a good rod for serval things. The sole limitations would be in thick vegetation, brush, and possible around docks. If around docks, the longer length will help to move fish. Braid couldbhelp in weeds. If not a flipping stick, that length and power would be a great ling range rod for moving baits. No its fine, have the reciept and everything, took the rod into a bait and tackle shop to repair the eye of the rod I had on this reel beforehand, and he put on one double the size of the biggest one. So I bought this out of a rush, didn't really think about power until afterwards Is this a good rod for flippin 7'6 heavy -fast. Thanks everyone!- Cole Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, J Francho said: With an XXXH flipping stick, actually, yes. It's killer. Knew this was coming! Does Kistler still make LTX telescoping flipping rod? Tom 1 Quote
colefarrow_ Posted December 14, 2020 Author Posted December 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, WRB said: It comes down to flipping vs pitching. Flipping the reel doesn’t release line the rod does all the lifting. Pitching the reel releases line and the rod cast the lure out to 30’ or more. Dought many anglers stand and flip cast in a kayak, they pitch. If the OP is using braid to cut though the aquatic cover and the rod can control the size bass he is catching why not? Depends on the rod and size of bass. Tom Wondering how this rod will do for a flippin. Choosing the 7'6 heavy. I have 15 pound fluro, probably going to 20 for this, or braid 2 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 What is your budget? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, WRB said: Knew this was coming! Does Kistler still make LTX telescoping flipping rod? Tom I don't know, I'm still using my Deep South telescoping pool cue. It replaced the Kistler I broke over a decade ago. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 I flip cast so rarely never owned one. Used my 8’ HX swimbait rod for the occasional trip to Clear lake. The IROD XG754F frog rod worked for pitch if needed. I stood in a kayak with a 8’ flipping rod the boat would do the flipping. Tom 2 Quote
Super User Teal Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, WRB said: I flip cast so rarely never owned one. Used my 8’ HX swimbait rod for the occasional trip to Clear lake. The IROD XG754F frog rod worked for pitch if needed. I stood in a kayak with a 8’ flipping rod the boat would do the flipping. Tom I got a kayak over the summer.. and It took a little practice to get used to standing and fishing while keeping balance if there was any kind of current or chop on the water. Quote
GTN-NY Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, WRB said: I flip cast so rarely never owned one. Used my 8’ HX swimbait rod for the occasional trip to Clear lake. The IROD XG754F frog rod worked for pitch if needed. I stood in a kayak with a 8’ flipping rod the boat would do the flipping. Tom I almost went out the other side of my kayak setting the hook when the fish let go Quote
Michigander Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 4 hours ago, colefarrow_ said: Wondering how this rod will do for a flippin. Choosing the 7'6 heavy. I have 15 pound fluro, probably going to 20 for this, or braid I've got the 7'10" XH Browser because they were basically giving them away on TW two Black Fridays ago. Figured it would be a cheapie rod to let me know if I liked that length. I haven't replaced it because it's actually kind of excellent. It's very powerful and it has enough sensitivity to notice subtle bites. I think the H version will probably be much the same. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 7 hours ago, colefarrow_ said: 10-20 pound fluro/mono 1/4- 3/4 heres the link https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/falcon-hd-76-freshwater-saltwater-casting-rod#repChildCatSku=017864349 Based on the link. It may be ok. It just depends on how stout the tip is. Getting out of some heavy vegetation my be an issue. On the other side, I think this rod may be better for lighter jigs (1/4 and 3/8oz with trailer) and some t-rigged soft plastic. Quote
Lead Head Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 Do you anticipate needing the power to drag fish through and out of cover? Like hauling in a fish plus a pound of weeds. If not, a rod rated up to 1oz should work fine. If you think you will be dragging in clumps of vegetation with your fish you probably want something rated closer to 1 1/2oz. Also keep in mind versatility. A rod rated at 1oz will likely be a more versatile rod. Either way I suggest braid. It will help with sensitivity on such a stiff rod. Flipping and pitching into cover means you will be looking for reaction strikes and it is my opinion that line visibility matters very little when targeting reaction strikes. Many people who don't like braid for mainline will still use it on a flipping stick. Quote
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