Super User Koz Posted December 8, 2020 Super User Posted December 8, 2020 17 hours ago, J Francho said: I'm sure some pros are offering advice and that is really awesome, but I bet more come here for the collective knowledge stored on our servers. I'm just waiting for Greg Hackney to win an MLF event and start the interview off by saying, "Well, I was on Bass Resource last week and..." 5 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Koz said: I'm just waiting for Greg Hackney to win an MLF event and start the interview off by saying, "Well, I was on Bass Resource last week and..." ...37 people taught me how to correctly fish the ned rig in the right color! 1 3 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted December 8, 2020 Super User Posted December 8, 2020 There are many members in this forum that I would gladly take advice from. I cannot say the same for most ''pro'' bass fishermen or any other sponsored fisherman who promotes a lure like it is the best lure for bass fishing. For example there are countless Youtubers who's videos look like commercials for lures. I understand they have to make living but there is a thin line between making a living and being a dishonest person who is being a shill overhyping a lure or other tackle. 6 hours ago, NoShoes said: feels more like an infomercial. What I like about here is I know they aren’t making money off the advice they give. Reminds me of a couple Youtubers I know that are constantly overhyping lures since they are sponsored by those companies. 7 hours ago, Bird said: Pretty sharp fella's on this forum with the credentials to be considered professional.....or at least give professional advice. I've follow many user names on this forum and their advice and explanations to technique are always consistent. Being open minded and willing to learn is key. In fact, most of what I've learned here I wasn't even the originator of the question asked. Lol There are many talented bass fisherman in this forum that give free advice without expecting anything back. They are very generous and I trust their advice much more than some sponsored fisherman overhyping a lure or other fishing tackle. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted December 8, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 8, 2020 6 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m Bill Dance! If you don’t believe me just watch when I hit my shin on the trailer hitch You always make us laugh Bill! 6 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m Bill Dance! If you don’t believe me just watch when I hit my shin on the trailer hitch You always make us laugh Bill! 2 2 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted December 8, 2020 BassResource.com Administrator Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Koz said: I'm just waiting for Greg Hackney to win an MLF event and start the interview off by saying, "Well, I was on Bass Resource last week and..." Funny you say that. When I talk to the pros, every single last one of them to a "T" say they know about us and frequent the site & forums often. They wouldn't do that if they weren't learning something new with each visit. Some have confessed to me they're active members here. But can you get them to toss out a shoutout every now and then? Nope. I think they fear repercussions from BASS and MLF if they mention us. Note they don't mention other major bass fishing sites either for the same reason, so it's not just us. 13 Quote
The one that got away Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, NoShoes said: TacticalBassin feels more like an infomercial. What I like about here is I know they aren’t making money off the advice they give. I think everyone here should check out "The Nature of Fishing" channel on Youtube by BR member Paul Roberts. I haven't watched all of his videos yet, but his scientific approach to bass behavior is above and beyond anything I have seen before. I'm confident I will be a better angler next year after I get through his content. And no, I don't know Paul and I'm not a pro angler. 7 1 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Glenn said: Funny you say that. When I talk to the pros, every single last one of them to a "T" say they know about us and frequent the site & forums often. They wouldn't do that if they weren't learning something new with each visit. Some have confessed to me they're active members here. But can you get them to toss out a shoutout every now and then? Nope. I think they fear repercussions from BASS and MLF if they mention us. Note they don't mention other major bass fishing sites either for the same reason, so it's not just us. It would be nice if they let us know who they are on here atleast! Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, soflabasser said: There are many members in this forum that I would gladly take advice from. I cannot say the same for most ''pro'' bass fishermen or any other sponsored fisherman who promotes a lure like it is the best lure for bass fishing. For example there are countless Youtubers who's videos look like commercials for lures. I understand they have to make living but there is a thin line between making a living and being a dishonest person who is being a shill overhyping a lure or other tackle. Reminds me of a couple Youtubers I know that are constantly overhyping lures since they are sponsored by those companies. I am field staff for a company and whenever I mention the product on the site, I always mention 2 other options with it, one of which I have used in the past and one that is a site favorite. I just checked my messages with another member on the site and when I suggested this product as something to use I was open with them I was on their staff and gave other options that they could use as well. I got my two staff positions for the social media reach and an article I wrote a couple of years ago and because I used and believed in the products before I said yes. I never push the products on here or other forums I have been on, that is not what these sites are for. I am an ok stick, but refuse to tourney fish because my competitiveness will take all the fun out of fishing for me. 22 hours ago, J Francho said: Hobbyist sites are like that. I belonged to a couple photography forums that were way better than any class or book. Curious what photography forums you frequented. I just started shooting manual this year with my Cannon 7D and picked up my first full frame camera. Those are sites I could learn a ton from lurking, other than good pictures I wouldn't have anything to add. If you could PM me with them that would be awesome, thanks. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 My original reply was tongue in cheek. When you think about why a professional bass would visit this site is clear...to utilize hundreds of bass anglers knowledge to find bits of information that may in some way give them a competitive edge, Tom 4 Quote
NoShoes Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, WRB said: My original reply was tongue in cheek. When you think about why a professional bass would visit this site is clear...to utilize hundreds of bass anglers knowledge to find bits of information that may in some way give them a competitive edge, Tom They would visit for the same reasons why any of us are on here. Makes perfect sense No one knows everything about every technique on everybody of water, but collectively the knowledge base of this site is as close as you can get. 3 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 I don't know if any pro's do or don't frequent the forum, but if they ever need to know what the best $100 baitcaster is they should look no further. J/K, I am sure some of them visit, but I certainly wouldn't announce it if I were one. 1 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, NoShoes said: They would visit for the same reasons why any of us are on here. Makes perfect sense No one knows everything about every technique on everybody of water, but collectively the knowledge base of this site is as close as you can get. This dog is too old to hunt and just trying pass on a few nuggets. Tom 2 1 1 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, cgolf said: I am field staff for a company and whenever I mention the product on the site, I always mention 2 other options with it, one of which I have used in the past and one that is a site favorite. I just checked my messages with another member on the site and when I suggested this product as something to use I was open with them I was on their staff and gave other options that they could use as well. I got my two staff positions for the social media reach and an article I wrote a couple of years ago and because I used and believed in the products before I said yes. I never push the products on here or other forums I have been on, that is not what these sites are for. I am an ok stick, but refuse to tourney fish because my competitiveness will take all the fun out of fishing for me. As long as you are being 100% honest that there are other lure options that can be better it is ok. One of the things that I find most disgusting is sponsored fishermen overhyping a product like it is the best lure for bass fishing. It is just plain wrong but some people lack morals and only care about making maximum profit. Anyone with enough experience knows you can do quite well with a handful of lures that have been proven for over a decade, those types of lures need no advertising since happy customers give all the advertising needed. Lots of talented bass fishermen have no interest in tournament fishing and many of these fishermen have caught double digit bass. Not all tournament fishermen have caught double digit bass or caught 30 pound or better 5 bass limits in 1 day. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, soflabasser said: As long as you are being 100% honest that there are other lure options that can be better it is ok. One of the things that I find most disgusting is sponsored fishermen overhyping a product like it is the best lure for bass fishing. It is just plain wrong but some people lack morals and only care about making maximum profit. Anyone with enough experience knows you can do quite well with a handful of lures that have been proven for over a decade, those types of lures need no advertising since happy customers give all the advertising needed. You work your arsh off to get sponsors and don’t promote their products, what world do you live in La La land? Tom 4 2 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 I was raised to be honest and that is how I am. If I recommend a lure it is because I have experience fishing it and have done well with it. How was your last fishing trip, any nice sized bass? From the recent YouTube videos I see lots of California fishermen are doing very well. The weather and the fishing has been good for me the past couple of months. Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, WRB said: You work your arsh off to get sponsors and don’t promote their products, what world do you line in La La land? Tom I promote on social media the brands like crazy only because I believe in them. I would never rep a product I don’t believe in and have turned down offers I hadn’t tried. Unfortunately too many will rep any product just to get a discount or free product. To me the forums where I am offering advice, I want to be honest that I like a product, but here is not a place to promote. Both because it is against the rules and it would hurt my credibility which is why I mention other options that would work. I was just happy to get a product I would buy anyways at a discount far better than any of the recent sales. I never seeked out a sponsor they offered to me based on my posts. I will admit my situation is unique because I fish for fun. Pros are a different ball game, they need to put food on the table. A good example of a pro taking the check in golf was a home state boy Steve Stricker switching to Taylor Made for the check back in the day. I believe his golf game took a dive with the new gear that was different than his old. Thankfully fishing isn’t that gear particular regardless how much we imagine it to be. Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, cgolf said: Unfortunately too many will rep any product just to get a discount or free product. Unfortunately those rotten apples ruin it for the honest ones promoting good products. 1 Quote
NoShoes Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 7 hours ago, WRB said: This dog is too old to hunt and just trying pass on a few nuggets. Tom Keep passing! We need all we can get! 1 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted December 9, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Luke Barnes said: It would be nice if they let us know who they are on here atleast! I can tell you with absolute certainty that @Ztrain is indeed the real Ztrain. He’s said on a video or two with @Glenn he’s a member on here. He lurks around he said but doesn’t comment much at all. That’s all I got. ? 3 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 There are guides on here as well. Those are pros. 2 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 You don't have to make a living at fishing to be the best, especially on your home water. I would choose many non pro anglers on this site over a pro, if I had the chance to fish with them on their home water. I can't see how any pro on the planet could have the small mouth dialed in on their home lake better than AJ. WRB must have a name for every bass over 15 pounds in Southern CA. and many others here may not be pros, but fish on or above a professional level. Guides not only have to be able to catch fish, but they have to be able to find a way for their clients to catch fish, as well as have a good time regardless of the clients ability, making them as professional as any tournament angler. I'm an average bass angler, but am improving, and have as much fun fishing and learning about bass fishing as any one. I don't get the time on the water I wished I could, but reading other anglers, stories, listening to their advise and chiming in on the arguments is the next best thing. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted December 9, 2020 Super User Posted December 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, king fisher said: Guides not only have to be able to catch fish, but they have to be able to find a way for their clients to catch fish, And that, my friend, is why I have the utmost respect for guides. I could never do that. jj Quote
Hawgfinder Posted December 28, 2020 Author Posted December 28, 2020 Well I agree there are a lot of people who aren’t pros who could be. My comment was kind of tongue and cheek. There’s just a lot of information on here a normal guy probably doesn’t have a ton of information to offer. It’s interesting and informative that’s why I read most everyday. Quote
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