cjam93 Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 Hey guys so I am looking to get a new football jig rod. Im spending around $350 at the most I had been set on a megabass orochi braillist but they are currently out of stock and may be for quite some time. I am looking for a rod to throw 1/2oz plus trailer football jigs in 5 to 20 ft of water on 15lb fc. Light to medium cover at the most as usually I will just be dragging bottom off shore with it. In this price range what else do you think I should consider? I have been thinking about a Dobyns champion extreme hp 744 as well and the lifetime warrenty on that rod is a nice cushion. Quote
NYBasser Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 Check the champ extreme 745, most guys like it a little better for 1/2oz+ 2 Quote
RTipton Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 I am looking for the same. The Poison Adrena is high on my list. I have also looked at the Daiwa BLX. 1 Quote
cjam93 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Posted December 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, RTipton said: I am looking for the same. The Poison Adrena is high on my list. I have also looked at the Daiwa BLX. What model in the poison adrena are you looking at? Quote
NathanDLTH Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 The rods I’d recommend: Braillist XX Orochi, Champ Extreme 745, EMTF XX Orochi I’ve read this works surprisingly well for bottom contact, and 7MH BLX in shallower water would work. Those are it, check eBay, you might find rods on there too. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 7, 2020 Super User Posted December 7, 2020 I haven’t fished for a few years and finally went with a friend who guides on the lake and obviously is a good bass angler. We were going tomorrow but his daughter test positive to Covid and he is quarantined. I managed to catch more jig fish then he did the first outing. Gave my friend a few hair jigs to try and was surprised he couldn’t feel them on the bottom using his NRX jig rod. He tied on the same weight 1/2 oz silicone skirt jig and feel it good. Why? The line size was the only difference I use .011D FC my friend uses .013D FC. After thinking about this the line diameter may be why I can feel jigs better with my ALX rods. I started using smaller diameter line to make longer casts and as result had better feedback. My hair jigs are more buoyant then silicone skirt jigs and sink slower and hit the bottom softer. I have adjusted to the feedback of my hair jigs and pork trailers from decades of use. My advice when using 1/2-3/4 oz football jig casting and retrieving along the bottom use .011D / 12 lb FC in lieu of .013D /15 lb to improve feedback. This may be as important as the rod you choose! Tom 6 Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 7, 2020 Super User Posted December 7, 2020 Kistler Helium HE704MH 7'0" Medium Heavy Fast 1/4 - 1 oz Quote
Sphynx Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, WRB said: I haven’t fished for a few years and finally went with a friend who guides on the lake and obviously is a good bass angler. We were going tomorrow but his daughter test positive to Covid and he is quarantined. I managed to catch more jig fish then he did the first outing. Gave my friend a few hair jigs to try and was surprised he couldn’t feel them on the bottom using his NRX jig rod. He tied on the same weight 1/2 oz silicone skirt jig and feel it good. Why? The line size was the only difference I use .011D FC my friend uses .013D FC. After thinking about this the line diameter may be why I can feel jigs better with my ALX rods. I started using smaller diameter line to make longer casts and as result had better feedback. My hair jigs are more buoyant then silicone skirt jigs and sink slower and hit the bottom softer. I have adjusted to the feedback of my hair jigs and pork trailers from decades of use. My advice when using 1/2-2/3 oz football jig casting and retrieving along the bottom use .011D / 12 lb FC in lieu of .013D /15 lb to improve feedback. This may be as important as the rod you choose! Tom That's a great counter point to the school of thought that goes "heavy as you can get away with" and I'm glad you brought that up, I just ordered a whole bunch of different lines over the Black Friday sales and have intended to be more deliberate in which line I use when and why, thanks for the tip. Quote
Westcoast Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Catt said: Kistler Helium HE704MH 7'0" Medium Heavy Fast 1/4 - 1 oz I second this recommendation. This rod really surprised me with how light and sensitive it is. 2 Quote
NoShoes Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sphynx said: That's a great counter point to the school of thought that goes "heavy as you can get away with" and I'm glad you brought that up, I just ordered a whole bunch of different lines over the Black Friday sales and have intended to be more deliberate in which line I use when and why, thanks for the tip. I’ve been hooking up 15 lb tatsu as my leaders for everything but my finesse rod, I’m going to try a spool of 12 lb blue label to see if it makes a difference. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 7, 2020 Super User Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 2:48 PM, NoShoes said: I’ve been hooking up 15 lb tatsu as my leaders for everything but my finesse rod, I’m going to try a spool of 12 lb blue label to see if it makes a difference. New guy on the block: Gold Label https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Seaguar_Gold_Label_Fluorocarbon_Leader_Line_25yd/descpage-SEAG.html Back on topic for the OP: G.Loomis IMX MBC 844C https://www.gloomis.com/content/gloomis/northamerica/usconv/en/homepage/PDP.P-IMX_PRO_MBR.html 1 Quote
evilcatfish Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 Have you looked at the Braillist in the Levante line? Feedback on this latest release seems to be pretty positive from what I've seen 1 Quote
RTipton Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 8 hours ago, cjam93 said: What model in the poison adrena are you looking at? The 7 2 Heavy. I would prefer the 7 3 MH, but its 'regular-fast.' 1 minute ago, RTipton said: The 7 2 Heavy. I would prefer the 7 3 MH, but its 'regular-fast.' Meant to add I did handle both Poison Adrena and BLX this weekend. The PA is super light. Feels awesome. 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 The Med+ is rated for up to 1oz. Is a fast so I would think it could handle a .5 FB jig with a trailer but would probably be close to max weight. 2 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted December 8, 2020 Super User Posted December 8, 2020 Another vote for the 844C IMX. Very versatile rod. I use it for bigger jigs and topwater. 1 Quote
Chris Carey Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I have the 744, I use it for this exact application. It’s awesome. The 7’6” heavy expride or the poison adrena (not sure on the length, I have the 7’3” H but there is a longer one) would also be great option in your price range. 1 Quote
Super User Teal Posted December 8, 2020 Super User Posted December 8, 2020 23 hours ago, cjam93 said: Hey guys so I am looking to get a new football jig rod. Im spending around $350 at the most I had been set on a megabass orochi braillist but they are currently out of stock and may be for quite some time. I am looking for a rod to throw 1/2oz plus trailer football jigs in 5 to 20 ft of water on 15lb fc. Light to medium cover at the most as usually I will just be dragging bottom off shore with it. In this price range what else do you think I should consider? I have been thinking about a Dobyns champion extreme hp 744 as well and the lifetime warrenty on that rod is a nice cushion. I love this post man. Sounds like you already have the set up dialed in in your mind. I actually have a DX 744 it's my primary jig rod. I use it mostly for skipping and flipping jigs, but this time of year, I like the heavy football on it too. Pretty sensitive rod. I like your line choice too. Just be careful if you throw a hair jig or any jig with a light wire hook. If you plan on using light wire hooks, go down a power. Or just use a spinning rod or a medium power casting rod. 14 or 15 lb FC would be my choice as well. Excellent C rig rod as well. When I went fishing yesterday, I use same rod for carolina rigging and caught a couple decent fish on a c rigged senko. Dx744 would be and excellent rod choice sir. 1 Quote
cjam93 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Posted December 8, 2020 Hey guys wanted to say thabk you for all the helpful answers! The issue is I am interested in all of the ones mentioned! Hahaha rod shopping could be as addicting as actually using them! 1 Quote
NOC 1 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 3:47 PM, Catt said: Kistler Helium HE704MH 7'0" Medium Heavy Fast 1/4 - 1 oz A bought a Kistler Z-bone, 6'9" MH/F this year and it is the best bottom fishing rod I've ever used. With light line and a tungsten shaky-head I can feel pieces of gravel. Got it for about $350 on sale. 1 Quote
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