niiickboy Posted December 5, 2020 Posted December 5, 2020 Hey so i was thinking of getting a cheap/decent rod i don’t have to be so careful with/ when i travel with my family since we always pack a lot and the last two times my rod kept having to be pushed against a lot of stuff and it wasn’t protected, so i was wondering any good rods 70 and under, preferably two piece so i can fit it in the car better, i was looking at the kast king perigee 2 piece rod on amazon and it’s 53 bucks i believe, it has good reviews but wanted some more opinions Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 5, 2020 Super User Posted December 5, 2020 Diawa Aird-X has a few 2-piece rods at about that same price retail - sometimes can find for $49. 6'6" M/F Casting 7'0" MH/F Casting 5'6" UL/F Spinning 6'6" M/F Spinning 7'0" M/F Spinning Quote
niiickboy Posted December 5, 2020 Author Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Diawa Aird-X has a few 2-piece rods at about that same price retail - sometimes can find for $49. 6'6" M/F Casting 7'0" MH/F Casting 5'6" UL/F Spinning 6'6" M/F Spinning 7'0" M/F Spinning i’ll check it out, how much less sensitive is the 2 piece? i remember you mentioning that you have the aird x Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 5, 2020 Super User Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, niiickboy said: i’ll check it out, how much less sensitive is the 2 piece? i remember you mentioning that you have the aird x At one point I had 4 Aird-X's - this next year it'll be down to 2. With the way two-piece rods go together now, I don't think the sensitivity drops all that much as it's blank-blank instead of the old way of a metal ferrule. I was pretty happy with the Aird-X, having M/F Spinning and M/F, MH/F and H/F casting...they did the job, I'm just getting better rods now. 1 Quote
sideways2 Posted December 5, 2020 Posted December 5, 2020 I was a Fenwick fan back in the day so when I decided to come back after a long vacation I bought two Eagle's ...worked out to $45.00US ($60.00CAD) each. They look and feel amazing although I have to wait till spring now to see how they do on the water I do wish there were those Daiwa's locally to see how they compare... they get alot of good talk!! Quote
Super User islandbass Posted December 5, 2020 Super User Posted December 5, 2020 8 hours ago, niiickboy said: i’ll check it out, how much less sensitive is the 2 piece? i remember you mentioning that you have the aird x If it’s a modern two piece rod from a reputable company like daiwa or Shimano (consider looking into their two piece rods in the convergence and compre lines. I have used and continue to use the ones I still have) any loss if any, is negligible. This is coming from someone in whose hands an ugly stik is sensitive. I primarily use two piece rods from a convenience POV even though I also have my one piece rods too. Quote
niiickboy Posted December 5, 2020 Author Posted December 5, 2020 i guess it seems like for the price the AIRD X rod is good, but no one has any reviews on the kast king perigee? it’s like 10 bucks cheaper on amazon then the AIRD, if it’s the same quality, but the AIRD nonetheless is pretty cheap too for how good it sounds Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted December 5, 2020 Posted December 5, 2020 I have Aird-X rods that I've outgrown, but I was never able to put one through something it couldn't handle. Between spinning and casting rods, my Daiwa Aird-X sticks have done it all from bass fishing to being pulled on by 30" redfish. They haven't even complained once, much less malfunctioned. Each and every Daiwa product I've put my hands on has done the job. The one Kastking product I used for a single test cast was a reel, and it squealed like a shot hog. Would not recommend. Get the Aird-X. 1 Quote
niiickboy Posted December 14, 2020 Author Posted December 14, 2020 quick question where does the rod actually separate? I want a 7 ft but i think i might get 6’6 and under so it can mostly fit in my backpack for travel, but does anyone have a picture of an aird x rod in half, do most 2 piece rods separate in the same spot Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, niiickboy said: quick question where does the rod actually separate? Most separate between the first guide (nearest the reel) and the second...this is about the half-way point on the rod. 18 minutes ago, niiickboy said: but does anyone have a picture of an aird x rod in half, From a site that sells the 2-piece 7' 20 minutes ago, niiickboy said: do most 2 piece rods separate in the same spot Ya - most I've seen and used (I have a 2-piece Okuma Stratus VI, had a 2-piece Diawa Spinmatic that I sold) pretty much put the joint in the same place. Quote
niiickboy Posted December 14, 2020 Author Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, MN Fisher said: Most separate between the first guide (nearest the reel) and the second...this is about the half-way point on the rod. From a site that sells the 2-piece 7' Ya - most I've seen and used (I have a 2-piece Okuma Stratus VI, had a 2-piece Diawa Spinmatic that I sold) pretty much put the joint in the same place. So based off the picture then it should be roughly half the length when disassembled, should be 3’3 to 3’6 ish, but when the rod goes together you just push it in? how far do i put it in/ does it easy come apart, i’m scared i’m fishing and somehow the rod falls apart ? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, niiickboy said: So based off the picture then it should be roughly half the length when disassembled, should be 3’3 to 3’6 ish, but when the rod goes together you just push it in? how far do i put it in/ does it easy come apart, i’m scared i’m fishing and somehow the rod falls apart ? Old metal ferrule 2-piece rods - that was an issue...they liked to fall apart. I've not had any of that with either of my 2-piece rods. The blank-to-blank connection holds better. Just push them together until it stops - don't have to force it in...maybe 5-pounds or less pressure. To separate, hold the two halves and give them a little twist in opposite directions while pulling apart...easy-peasy. 1 Quote
Blaine Donders Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 I have a Favorite AP Bassin two piece I keep in my trunk. It’s heavy, but I do like how it fishes. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 I've got a Kast King Perigee II. It's not a bad rod. Good guides, reel seat, grips, and well made. The two tips is nice, though how often are you really going to want to swap out tips? My only real complaints are weight and sensitivity. Not that it's heavy or particularly insensitive. It's just that I've got other 2 piece rods that are lighter and more sensitive. Though, they did cost twice the price of the Perigee II, so you'd expect something for the extra money. I've never fished an Arid-X, so I can't compare the two. But I do have a Berkley Lightning rod, and can say that the Perigee is a better made rod than the Lightning (especially the guides and reels seats). I can't really compare weight and sensitivity to the Perigee, however, as they're different speeds, lengths, and powers. If you could find one on sale, the BPS PQ2 rod comes in a 2 piece, and it's one of the better 2 piece rods I've fished. It's a bit over your budget, but on sale, it might come close. Quote
LCG Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 6 hours ago, niiickboy said: I want a 7 ft but i think i might get 6’6 and under so it can mostly fit in my backpack for travel If you want the rod to fit in a backpack then you may want to look into a 3 or 4 piece travel rod. Fenwick, okuma, Daiwa, and I am sure others make this type of rod. They obviously break down much shorter. The Fenwick hmg travel rod intriques me, as it is a 3 piece rod, but comes with two tip sections, so 4 pieces total. 7ft Medium light and medium power in one package for spinning or medium and medium heavy for casting. And a travel case that looks to fit a reel as well. I might get this for camping trips, or family trips where the car is packed to the roof. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted December 14, 2020 Super User Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, LCG said: If you want the rod to fit in a backpack then you may want to look into a 3 or 4 piece travel rod. Fenwick, okuma, Daiwa, and I am sure others make this type of rod. They obviously break down much shorter. The standard Diawa Ardito-TR rods break into 3 sections. For more flexibility - the Ardito SC is a hybrid casting/spinning rod that breaks into 5+1 sections. Two different handles - one for casting, one for spinning, and 4 main sections. It's a Medium-Heavy/Fast. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 Good cheap is a oxymoron. Tom 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, WRB said: Good cheap is a oxymoron. Tom What's the old axiom? "Good, Cheap or Quick. Pick Two." jj Quote
Super User islandbass Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 8 hours ago, niiickboy said: So based off the picture then it should be roughly half the length when disassembled, should be 3’3 to 3’6 ish, but when the rod goes together you just push it in? how far do i put it in/ does it easy come apart, i’m scared i’m fishing and somehow the rod falls apart ? Highly unlikely in a modern 2 piece rod. And if it does, it is user failure to properly combine the two parts. Now the two parts might slowly begin to slightly become misaligned so be mindful of that. As long as you have a lure tied on, there is absolutely not need to worry if the top half really does fly off. Because of the lure being attached, you would be able to retrieve it. I’ve had my two piece Cabelas mag touch, Shimano compre and convergence, Lamiglas, and Okuma Celilo rods for probably 10 or more years now and they’re still all being used and never ever has any of the tips ever flown off. Just gently connect the two parts together until the connection is snug and assertive. I usually also twist the two parts toward alignment as the connection becomes more snug. I will also twist the two parts apart when separating them. I learned that somewhere, I think from the fishing for dummies book. Don’t remember why but it’s become habit, lol. Quote
LCG Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MN Fisher said: The standard Diawa Ardito-TR rods break into 3 sections. For more flexibility - the Ardito SC is a hybrid casting/spinning rod that breaks into 5+1 sections. Two different handles - one for casting, one for spinning, and 4 main sections. It's a Medium-Heavy/Fast. Wow, I am going to have to look into that rod. Sounds pretty interesting. Quote
Big Hands Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said: What's the old axiom? "Good, Cheap or Quick. Pick Two." jj That's probably the most common version of what I call the 'purchasing triangle'. Another version would be: Good, cheap, durable 1 Quote
niiickboy Posted December 15, 2020 Author Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, WRB said: Good cheap is a oxymoron. Tom Lol true, but i just meant cheaper as in the lower end, but then again “you get what you pay for” 5 hours ago, MN Fisher said: The standard Diawa Ardito-TR rods break into 3 sections. For more flexibility - the Ardito SC is a hybrid casting/spinning rod that breaks into 5+1 sections. Two different handles - one for casting, one for spinning, and 4 main sections. It's a Medium-Heavy/Fast. that sounds pretty cool, i’ll check that out Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 15, 2020 Super User Posted December 15, 2020 Fenwick invented the non metal farrlowles less rod joint for fishing rods. Price ranges from $50-$200. Tom Quote
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