Jacob Phelps Posted November 24, 2020 Posted November 24, 2020 I enjoy fishing swimbaits and a couple of lakes I fish are perfect for this technique. The problem is there aren't a lot of heavy jigheads that have a small enough hook to rig a smaller swimbait (around 3" long). I have been thinking about getting into jig making and have been looking into my jighead options. Are there any 1/2 oz to 3/4 oz jighead molds that will allow for a shorter shank hook to rig smaller swimbaits? A lot of these molds recommend certain hooks and hook sizes. What would happen if I use a smaller hook sizes than what's recommended? Quote
Guitarfish Posted November 24, 2020 Posted November 24, 2020 I feel ya on the search for the right jig. Maybe look for a bullet head? If you put a smaller hook in the mold the lead will squeeze past the shaft in my experience. If I'm finesse fishing I'm using a lighter jig. Maybe you can add split shots up the line a foot? Good luck. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 Most Do-It mold cavities will take one or two size smaller hooks. Otherwise break out the dremel and make them fit. Allen 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 25, 2020 Global Moderator Posted November 25, 2020 Find the mold you like and most likely, there's a hook that will fit or is close enough you can make it fit with a little modification. I've hacked some molds up about beyond recognition (well beyond them being able to be used for their original purpose), to get a mold that I wanted. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 25, 2020 Super User Posted November 25, 2020 Google DOA Short Shank jig heads . Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Im actually in the process of researching this exact thing. I have a walleye head mold that works nicely for swimming and does an ok job of holding swimbaits. I have been ising lil nasty and 570 hooks in it. But they are too short and not deep enough in my opinion with the larger 3.8/4.3 fat impact style baits. Therefore i have been looking for a 90 degree option that will fit in the mold but is mainly longer in blknckl finish. What ive been doing and might benefit you too, is go on barlows tackle. Most of their jig hooks are displayed in a way that shows their size in inches as well as comparing different hook sizes in that line. I think with downsizing you may be able to find a hook that will fit a 1/2 or 5/8 but is shorter and lighter wire. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 17, 2020 Super User Posted December 17, 2020 Do-It Mold SYN-3-AYN with Owner 5317 60 degree bend hook comes in 3/8 oz, 1/2 oz, 5/8 oz. Less expensive hook is Mustad 32786 BN. Don’t know why you are looking for a “shorter” hook? Tom Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 Dont want to speak for op but i beleive or Its for the small 2.8 type baits. Ussing a big heavy wire 3 or 4/o hook really is overkill on those baits. I played with this alittle bit this summer and a lightwire 1-3/0 thin wire (think ned/hair/grub hook) seemed like a great size for these Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 18, 2020 Super User Posted December 18, 2020 Use a Gammy 291 size 2/0, or 3/0 the mold shouldn’t leak around a hook a few thousands small wire diameter. The issue is 1/2 to 3/4 oz swim jig using 3” swimmers. Tom Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 18, 2020 Super User Posted December 18, 2020 In about a month I will have some. Working on the prototype now. My question for everyone is do they need eyes. Allen 2 Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 I am curious though, what is thethought behind a 1/2 to 3/4 head with a 3” swimbait? Only application i could really see is rip jigging in current for walleye. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 19, 2020 Super User Posted December 19, 2020 Going to make these in 1/4,3/8,and 1/2oz with different keepers and smaller hooks. Allen 3 Quote
detroit1 Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 I wish all my heads had wire keepers... 1 Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, detroit1 said: I wish all my heads had wire keepers... 100%. I started experimenting with it last lime I poured poisontails but it didnt work great. I need to keep experimenting. I think my wire was too thick. Thats all part of the fun though Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 19, 2020 Super User Posted December 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Bdnoble84 said: 100%. I started experimenting with it last lime I poured poisontails but it didnt work great. I need to keep experimenting. I think my wire was too thick. Thats all part of the fun though Use the longer wire keepers for Do-It molds. Allen Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 20, 2020 Super User Posted December 20, 2020 10 hours ago, detroit1 said: I wish all my heads had wire keepers... Between Mike and myself we can probably set you up. Allen Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 20, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 1:48 PM, Bdnoble84 said: I am curious though, what is thethought behind a 1/2 to 3/4 head with a 3” swimbait? Only application i could really see is rip jigging in current for walleye. We swim them 50-70 feet down on Table Rock, Bull Shoals, and Beaver lake. It takes a long time for a standard 1/4-3/8oz head to get down that far (takes quite a while with the big heads), and it's really hard to keep it there. 1 Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: We swim them 50-70 feet down on Table Rock, Bull Shoals, and Beaver lake. It takes a long time for a standard 1/4-3/8oz head to get down that far (takes quite a while with the big heads), and it's really hard to keep it there. Completely makes sense. I could see it being an effective reaction bite presentation around dropoffs and deep weed edges as well. Thanks for the clarification 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 20, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 1:11 PM, Munkin said: My question for everyone is do they need eyes. Allen IMO, eyes are completely unnecessary. Quote
VolFan Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 IMO even paint is extremely overrated. 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 20, 2020 Super User Posted December 20, 2020 Prototypes are done just trying some different hooks and keepers. These are either 3/8 or 1/2oz with 2/0 lighter wire hooks. Waiting on the ones I painted to dry. Allen 1 Quote
detroit1 Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 "Need eyes and paint?" probabally not, but would look better to us. Sometimes that helps.. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 21, 2020 Super User Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, detroit1 said: "Need eyes and paint?" probabally not, but would look better to us. Sometimes that helps.. They have the wire keepers like everyone seems to want. Allen 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 21, 2020 Global Moderator Posted December 21, 2020 The wire keepers are a big deal because a 2.8 Keitech goes from a 1-2 fish bait to a 3-5 fish bait. I agree that paint isn't even a requirement. I can always paint my own but the color of lead is fairly baitfish colored anyways, especially when those teeth marks start digging in and exposing the shiny part under the surface. 2 Quote
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