Ohioguy25 Posted November 23, 2020 Posted November 23, 2020 I have heard the bird theory, but how does that work? They catch a fish and accidentally drop it in another nearby body of water? I don’t see that happening often. The roe attach to their feet? Still leaves the question of how they get fertilized, unless they already are. Are other animals like turtles, waterfowl and beavers the couriers of these fertilized eggs? Even then that seems unlikely to populate literally every freshwater stream, pond and ditch on earth. How does it happen? Quote
Captain Phil Posted November 23, 2020 Posted November 23, 2020 Good question. Here in Florida, every body of water bigger than a puddle has fish in it. In Central Florida, most natural ponds are sink holes connected to subterranean springs. In South Florida, most of the waterways are man made canals or rock pits. Some waterway connections are not visible, they have underground culvert pipes. If they are not connected, people sometimes stock fish in them. My home in Pembroke Pines had a drainage canal in the back yard that was dug when they built the housing development. We used to bring bass we caught in Lake Okeechobee to stock the canal. I put more than one 9 pound plus bass in that canal myself. Every so often one of the kids in the neighborhood would hook one like that. You could hear them scream all over the neighborhood. When I was a kid, I fished a closed end ditch in the Opa-Locka airport. That ditch was about 15' wide, 300 yards long and no more than 8 feet deep. It was full of small bass. How they got in there, I will never know. 2 Quote
MGF Posted November 23, 2020 Posted November 23, 2020 I have many times seen isolated pools of otherwise dried up creeks with fish in them. I've seen the same creeks completely dry for long periods and then they flood again...and the fish are back. I'm specifically talking about the National Forest of Sothern Indiana. All I can say is that those creeks must have connections to larger water when the water is high and flowing...the fish swim up the creek, it dries up and you again have isolated pools full with fish. I saw isolated pools of dried up creeks that had trout in them when I hunted the Tennessee mountains but I don't know what went on the rest of the year. 2 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 Flooding puts fishing all kinds of places...and once a population is established it doesn't take much to flourish especially in places with little predation or fishing pressure 2 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said: I have heard the bird theory, but how does that work? They catch a fish and accidentally drop it in another nearby body of water? I don’t see that happening often. The roe attach to their feet? Still leaves the question of how they get fertilized, unless they already are. Are other animals like turtles, waterfowl and beavers the couriers of these fertilized eggs? Even then that seems unlikely to populate literally every freshwater stream, pond and ditch on earth. How does it happen? Science has finally figured out at least one way this occurs - bird poop Fish egg transfer article 6 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Team9nine said: Science has finally figured out at least one way this occurs - bird poop Fish egg transfer article Fascinating, curious to see the studies using other species 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 24, 2020 Global Moderator Posted November 24, 2020 2 3 Quote
Captain Phil Posted November 24, 2020 Posted November 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Team9nine said: Science has finally figured out at least one way this occurs - bird poop I am intimately familiar with this phenomenon. It's all over my boat when I go to the marina. ? 1 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 Several ways. People throw them in. They can flow downstream from one pond/lake to the next when they're overflowing. I was told that someone recently put 250 blue catfish in my favorite fishery. I have no idea why he did that. I hope the bass eat every one. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 Fish within their native range have evolved over eons to propagate the species. Fish outside their native range were transported by man over a few hundred years. Tom Quote
Michigander Posted November 24, 2020 Posted November 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Beat me to it, lol. 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 Quote Anaximander of Miletus considered that from warmed up water and earth emerged either fish or entirely fishlike animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_generation Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted November 24, 2020 Posted November 24, 2020 I think a lot of bodies of water get populated from flooding. The rest would be transfer from other animals or people. Quote
Super User Bird Posted November 24, 2020 Super User Posted November 24, 2020 Friend of mine dug a small pond in his backyard and was his intention to wait a year before stocking it with fingerlings. Well, it somehow stocked itself with bluegill. He still might have to stock it cause the blue Herron are indulging. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted November 25, 2020 Super User Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 8:21 PM, Ohioguy25 said: Fascinating, curious to see the studies using other species I'll do my own beta testing next spring with deep fried perch roe. 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted November 25, 2020 Super User Posted November 25, 2020 Flooding sure seems to spread the biodiversity around. There is a great example in the lakes on.mt st Helens. They were literally sterilized and are already teaming with life and fish... Quote
Super User slonezp Posted November 25, 2020 Super User Posted November 25, 2020 Nature has a way of figuring things out. When your only purpose in life is to survive and to procreate the species, then that's what you do. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted November 26, 2020 Super User Posted November 26, 2020 In many lakes I'm sure human intervention via stocking or bucket biologists has something to do with it. Many ponds in the Northeast are interconnected via streams so small fry have lots of opportunity to travel while they're small. 1 Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted November 28, 2020 Super User Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 9:21 PM, Ohioguy25 said: Fascinating, curious to see the studies using other species Works with plant life, seeds, as well. Quote
ironbjorn Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 There isn't a single answer because there are many reasons. From birds, to people, to floods, to other waterways, to things we don't even understand. Put simply, it's nature, and nature has always and will always do its job. 1 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 I witnessed this before. Went to tour a wedding venue when me and the wife were engaged. I saw an extremely small pond by the parking lot and asked if it was stocked. The owner said it was dug out to use the dirt to level the spot the venue was on, so it literally was just a round ditch dug a few feet deep to harvest the dirt out of. When we were there in the wedding day I had time to kill and had a spinning setup with me and decided what the heck. Through a really small crickhopper type lure and wouldnt you know, there was fish in it. Tiny tiny fish but they would nip the lure and i could see them. No streams, creeks, bodies of water within eyesight. How they got there, no clue. Quote
ajschn06 Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 11:38 AM, ajschn06 said: God It was just a joke settle down @jbrew73 Quote
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