Jordan89 Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 Ok guys I need some help from all my fellow finesse jig fisherman. I throw a ball head finesse jig almost everytime I’m on the water and am still looking for the perfect finesse jig. Right now what I’m “settling” with is the war eagle heavy duty finesse jig. Reason I’m saying settling is because it seems to have really good quality and has the strongest hook on a finesse jig I’ve found but the problem is it only comes in a 3/0. And I know when people talk about finesse jigs it’s light weight, light wire hooks but I’m a guy that likes to throw it on a heavy power rod and throw almost anywhere you would throw a flipping jig. Is there anyone out there that has found or makes a finesse jig that’s strong and has a bigger hook in 4/0 or maybe 5/0 and can be thrown on a heavy power rod? Thanks guys! Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted November 21, 2020 Super User Posted November 21, 2020 At what point is a finesse jig no longer a finesse jig? What's wrong with just a regular flipping jig at this point (heavy power rods and 5/0 hooks)? Regardless, maybe the Jewel Baits Tactical Finesse HD Jig. Doubt it's a 5/0 hook, but it is a good gap and heavy duty hook. 4 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 What is a finesse jig anyways? Just a smaller jig? Ive seen some where it looks like they cut half the skirt and let the ends stick out forward. 1 Quote
Finessegenics Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 12:42 PM, Luke Barnes said: What is a finesse jig anyways? Just a smaller jig? Ive seen some where it looks like they cut half the skirt and let the ends stick out forward. That’s pretty much what the War Eagle finesse jig the OP uses is. Sure, it’s a short shank hook but it has a thick gauge and still requires a MH or H rod to drive that hook home properly. Doesn’t seem like “finesse” to me. OP, if you’re looking for a jig with a finesse skirt, just take one of your regular pitching jigs and trim down the skirt into that “Lion’s mane” that finesse jigs are known for. It’ll look like a smaller presentation but still pack a punch with the large hook. The only jig that I can think of that fits your description is the Dirty Jigs Compact Pitchin Jig. 4/0 hook though you may have to some work on the skirt. I think it has the same amount of strands as you’d find on a regular pitching jig: https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Dirty_Jigs_Luke_Clausen_Compact_Pitchin_Jig/descpage-DJLCC.html 1 1 Quote
OCdockskipper Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 The Zman Ned jig is pretty finesse... Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 21, 2020 Super User Posted November 21, 2020 Gamakatsu Off-Set finesse. It's one of my finesse jigs that gets used frequently. I have it in 3/32 and 3/16. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted November 21, 2020 Super User Posted November 21, 2020 Not a fan of ball heads or the finesse "cut" style skirts like the War Eagle ones you mentioned in your post. That's just my preferance. I do use finesse jigs A LOT though. My favorite is the Boss finesse flip, with 44 strand skirts I make myself, and leave them cut "normal" , just trimmed down very compactly. I use both the heavy and light wire versions. Heavy wire on a 7'3" Dobyns Fury 735c Mag Heavy power rod, with 50 lb braid mainline, those hooks don't flex at all with that combo. They are stout little hooks. I think they are 3/0 though. I use the light wire ones on either a 703 spinning or 703 casting (again, both Dobyns Fury's), they will not take the power of a 704 or 735. Quote
Michigander Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, OCdockskipper said: The Zman Ned jig is pretty finesse... I dislike basically everything about those jigs except the weight range and colors. Regarding finesse jigs more broadly... I throw a lot of finesse jigs and finesse swim jigs. However, "finesse" isn't a technical term. To me, it's the light line used to fish them that makes it finesse, not the size hook or jig profile. I have a 5/0 hand tied 'weightless' jig that's light wire all the way to a 1/16 oz wacky hook jig. Both are finesse to me because I fish them on lighter line. I think that "small profile jig" is often what people mean by finesse jig. Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted November 22, 2020 Super User Posted November 22, 2020 3 hours ago, ww2farmer said: Not a fan of ball heads or the finesse "cut" style skirts like the War Eagle ones you mentioned in your post. That's just my preferance. I do use finesse jigs A LOT though. My favorite is the Boss finesse flip, with 44 strand skirts I make myself, and leave them cut "normal" , just trimmed down very compactly. I use both the heavy and light wire versions. Heavy wire on a 7'3" Dobyns Fury 735c Mag Heavy power rod, with 50 lb braid mainline, those hooks don't flex at all with that combo. They are stout little hooks. I think they are 3/0 though. I use the light wire ones on either a 703 spinning or 703 casting (again, both Dobyns Fury's), they will not take the power of a 704 or 735. This is the exact same thing I do. Boss finesse flip...homemade skirt with 2 tabs (44 strands)...not finesse cut but trimmed right under the hook. My favorite jig honestly. Quote
papajoe222 Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 I use a standard, tungsten arkie jig like Siebert Outdoors offers. They have a stout hook, 3/0 or 4/0 depending on weight. Because the tungsten head is smaller, you end up with a smaller profile on that end, use a standard skirt and pull out whatever number of strands you prefer and trim to your liking. You can eliminate strands from the weed guard to your liking also. 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Jordan89 said: Ok guys I need some help from all my fellow finesse jig fisherman. I throw a ball head finesse jig almost everytime I’m on the water and am still looking for the perfect finesse jig. Right now what I’m “settling” with is the war eagle heavy duty finesse jig. Reason I’m saying settling is because it seems to have really good quality and has the strongest hook on a finesse jig I’ve found but the problem is it only comes in a 3/0. And I know when people talk about finesse jigs it’s light weight, light wire hooks but I’m a guy that likes to throw it on a heavy power rod and throw almost anywhere you would throw a flipping jig. Is there anyone out there that has found or makes a finesse jig that’s strong and has a bigger hook in 4/0 or maybe 5/0 and can be thrown on a heavy power rod? Thanks guys! There are so many good jigs on the market you wont have an issue finding one. If you cant find one with exactly what you want, get some BOSS, Picasso, Dobyns or A.T. heads, find some skirts you like and your set. Kind of sounds like your looking for a unicycle with 2 tires instead of looking for a bicycle...Not sure what kind of head shape you want, other then that I would say look for a flippin jig. A.T. and SK make finesse jigs with bigger hook, A.T. being the bigger of the 2 I think, but they are lighter wire hooks and the weed guards may not be the best for throwing into cover. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 22, 2020 Global Moderator Posted November 22, 2020 When I need to "heavy finesse", I tie a finesse cut skirt on a 1/4 or 3/8oz brush jig or hidden eye flipping jig with a 4/0 hook. Quote
Luke Barnes Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 I have three SK Bitsy Flip jigs in 1/4 oz. Would they be consider finesse? I always just thought they were small little jigs. To be honest ive always been intimidated by jigs and vow to use them more. A 1/4 oz jig with an Elaztech Zcrawz trailer would be best on spinning im guessing. Medium action or if the hook is light enough wire ML? Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 22, 2020 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 22, 2020 I use the Booyah Finance Jig. And yes, I flip/pitch it into heavy cover. Watch this for proof: 2 1 Quote
ajschn06 Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 The Feider Stealth Tungsten jig has a smaller but heavy wire hook. When trimmed up it’s a really compact profile with a strong hook Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted November 22, 2020 Super User Posted November 22, 2020 SK 1/8 oz Bitsy Bug is what I use. 1 Quote
waymont Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Luke Barnes said: SK Bitsy Flip jigs Even though the hook small and has a short shank, it is thicker wire and you should not use a ML spinning rod. The lightest I go with that jig is an extra fast 2 or 3 power Loomis JWR casting rod. If you want to got to a ML spinning rod, go with the Bitsy Bug, not the Bitsy Flip. 1 Quote
Michigander Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 Another option is to commission jig maker to make you a batch of custom ones with the specs you want. I tie my own but I have commissioned some custom jig heads be poured because I couldn't find what I wanted commercially. And I'll promote a Michigan company, you could also check out 2K Jigs. Not a budget brand but everything they make is excellent quality. And their Lil Punk has a 4/0 in it. https://www.2kjigs.com/collections/finesse-jigs Quote
Fastbee Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 19 hours ago, Jordan89 said: Ok guys I need some help from all my fellow finesse jig fisherman. I throw a ball head finesse jig almost everytime I’m on the water and am still looking for the perfect finesse jig. Right now what I’m “settling” with is the war eagle heavy duty finesse jig. Reason I’m saying settling is because it seems to have really good quality and has the strongest hook on a finesse jig I’ve found but the problem is it only comes in a 3/0. And I know when people talk about finesse jigs it’s light weight, light wire hooks but I’m a guy that likes to throw it on a heavy power rod and throw almost anywhere you would throw a flipping jig. Is there anyone out there that has found or makes a finesse jig that’s strong and has a bigger hook in 4/0 or maybe 5/0 and can be thrown on a heavy power rod? Thanks guys! Why do you need the bigger hook? I'd have to agree with some others, what you are doing isn't finesse. If you want the finesse look, trim up a flipping jig skirt. I use 1/4 or 3/8 tungsten flipping jigs with 3/0 heavy Mustad hooks and thin out the skirt if I think I need to. I also downsize the trailer accordingly in that case. Never had a problem sticking or getting fish out of cover like that. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 22, 2020 Super User Posted November 22, 2020 19 hours ago, Jordan89 said: Ok guys I need some help from all my fellow finesse jig fisherman. I throw a ball head finesse jig almost everytime I’m on the water and am still looking for the perfect finesse jig. Right now what I’m “settling” with is the war eagle heavy duty finesse jig. Reason I’m saying settling is because it seems to have really good quality and has the strongest hook on a finesse jig I’ve found but the problem is it only comes in a 3/0. And I know when people talk about finesse jigs it’s light weight, light wire hooks but I’m a guy that likes to throw it on a heavy power rod and throw almost anywhere you would throw a flipping jig. Is there anyone out there that has found or makes a finesse jig that’s strong and has a bigger hook in 4/0 or maybe 5/0 and can be thrown on a heavy power rod? Thanks guys! Call or send an e-mail to Mike at Siebert Outdoors https://siebertoutdoors.com/contact-us Quote
Luke Barnes Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 3 hours ago, waymont said: Even though the hook small and has a short shank, it is thicker wire and you should not use a ML spinning rod. The lightest I go with that jig is an extra fast 2 or 3 power Loomis JWR casting rod. If you want to got to a ML spinning rod, go with the Bitsy Bug, not the Bitsy Flip. Ok. I need to double check I dont have the bitsy bug. Honestly I'm not exactly sure if its the flip or bug. I have three so they might be different ones. I have every rod power covered so trying to decide on the best. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted November 23, 2020 Super User Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 6:28 PM, ww2farmer said: Not a fan of ball heads or the finesse "cut" style skirts like the War Eagle ones you mentioned in your post. That's just my preferance. I have caught more fish on this jig that any other I have ever used. Allen 4 Quote
GTN-NY Posted November 23, 2020 Posted November 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Munkin said: I have caught more fish on this jig that any other I have ever used. Allen What’s the details on that jig an trailer please Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted November 23, 2020 Posted November 23, 2020 I've got this Roundball. Its 5/16 or 7/16 and has a 4/0 hook. https://siebertoutdoors.com/products/ols/products/sniper-jig-blemished This one is my go to and has been for over 10 years in Bama Craw with a Rage Baby Craw Bama Craw. 5/16 is my go to size. 5/16 and 7/16 have 4/0 hook. https://siebertoutdoors.com/products/ols/products/grid-iron-g2-jig-grd-rn-g2-jig2 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted November 23, 2020 Super User Posted November 23, 2020 6 hours ago, GTN said: What’s the details on that jig an trailer please 5/16oz Green pumkin ballhead with weedguard and a Zoom Super Chunk Jr trailer. Seibert can make you the jig and the trailers are sold everywhere. Allen 1 Quote
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