Double fluke rig

[Jonas Staggs]

So this rig has the top swivel sliding down onto the bottom one. This has me wondering if that's "safe" for your knot to have a swivel grinding on it if you happen to catch a fish on the top one. Would placing a bead there be advisable or its not needed?

[Jig Man]

If it bothers you, put a bead on the line.

[Luke Barnes]

What I wonder, is the purpose of this rig.

[Jonas Staggs]

On 11/14/2020 at 10:42 PM, Luke Barnes said:

What I wonder, is the purpose of this rig.

 

 

Schooling bait fish. 

 

 

[Big Swimbait]

I put a bobber stop.

[MN Fisher]

1 hour ago, Big Swimbait said:

I put a bobber stop.

This is what I do too - a bead would also be sliding and 'knocking' against the knot...no different than just having the swivel.

[Luke Barnes]

Do you jerk and pop like you would a single fluke?

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, Luke Barnes said:

Do you jerk and pop like you would a single fluke?

Yep - that's where the action comes from. Jerk - pause - jerk - pause. When you jerk, they close up like a pair of baitfish 'schooling'...on the pause, they separate a little. Looks like a pair of baitfish chasing and feeding on smaller things.

[Luke Barnes]

12 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Yep - that's where the action comes from. Jerk - pause - jerk - pause. When you jerk, they close up like a pair of baitfish 'schooling'...on the pause, they separate a little. Looks like a pair of baitfish chasing and feeding on smaller things.

Very cool idea I would never have thought of! I love fishing a fluke over a hard jerkbait will have to try this.

[Michigander]

I've never had an issue with knot fraying. The fish tear up the line long before the swivel damages the knot.

[Jonas Staggs]

3 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

This is what I do too - a bead would also be sliding and 'knocking' against the knot...no different than just having the swivel.

 

so, when you texas rig, with your bullet weight unpegged, and you have a bead, its doing the same thing, sliding all over the place, aside from the noise the bead makes, i thought it was also used for knot protection?

2 hours ago, Luke Barnes said:

Do you jerk and pop like you would a single fluke?

 

its reallyy fun rig, its a "toy" like the whopper plopper. its fun to throw even if your not catching anything lol. looks super cool to see the baits dart like that.

Long as were talking double fluke rig. The rig is usually set up weightless.

 

has anyone fished it with either a sliding bullet weight, pegged bullet weight, or jig head on the bottom, to add some weight and casting distance? 

 

My thought process is to give this a try so I can still huckem, and keep the top one weightless. Wondering if anyones tried it?

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said:

so, when you texas rig, with your bullet weight unpegged, and you have a bead, its doing the same thing, sliding all over the place, aside from the noise the bead makes, i thought it was also used for knot protection?

I'm very knot-protective. I put a bobber stop between the bead and knot to protect that. Another bobber stop above the weight. Changing from pegged to un-pegged just means moving that upper one up the line a ways. The weight banging the bead on un-pegged gets me the noise.

[OnthePotomac]

I believe I saw a YouTube of KVD fishing a double shad rig some time ago with the details of doing so.

[Jonas Staggs]

On 11/15/2020 at 10:42 AM, MN Fisher said:

I'm very knot-protective. I put a bobber stop between the bead and knot to protect that. Another bobber stop above the weight. Changing from pegged to un-pegged just means moving that upper one up the line a ways. The weight banging the bead on un-pegged gets me the noise.

 

 

what do you think of using a jig for the bottom rig even both rigs?

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said:

what do you think of using a jig for the bottom rig even both rigs?

Using a jig on the rig changes...dunno what you'd call it then. But IF I was to use a jig...1/64 crappie jig...maybe as heavy as 1/32. Don't want to have the action changing too much, and heavier jigs would completely change how this rig works.

[lynxcat]

I’m going to experiment using senko, Neko Rigs, etc on a double rig. Seems like it can be leveraged for plenty of other applications. Fluke looks awesome and I even enjoy the helicopter throw. 

[Jonas Staggs]

5 hours ago, lynxcat said:

I’m going to experiment using senko, Neko Rigs, etc on a double rig. Seems like it can be leveraged for plenty of other applications. Fluke looks awesome and I even enjoy the helicopter throw. 

 

 

I have thought the same but never tried. I bet double senko would work real similar. I think Neko would probably tangle 

12 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Using a jig on the rig changes...dunno what you'd call it then. But IF I was to use a jig...1/64 crappie jig...maybe as heavy as 1/32. Don't want to have the action changing too much, and heavier jigs would completely change how this rig works.

 

 

Yeah when the jigs are so light it wouldn't have much effect. I tried it before with 1/64 jigs and it worked fine, but 1 jig worked better than 2 for me that day. I was thinking of trying a bit heavier. Maybe 1/16 or 1/8. 

[Michigander]

When you're ready for next level, try the quad fluke rig.

 

I did rig and try this a few years ago and it does indeed fish fine. PITA to rig up and store though.

[MN Fisher]

Just now, Michigander said:

When you're ready for next level, try the quad fluke rig.

 

I did rig and try this a few years ago and it does indeed fish fine. PITA to rig up and store though.

That'd be cool - except it's illegal in MN. Double-rig is best that's allowed here.

[Michigander]

6 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

That'd be cool - except it's illegal in MN. Double-rig is best that's allowed here.

Oh... You capped at two hooks?

[MN Fisher]

Just now, Michigander said:

Oh... You capped at two hooks?

Yep - no more than two hooks/lures per rod...and they have to be within 9" of each other as measured from hook/lure-junction-hook/lure.

 

Though I COULD do the 4-fluke rig...if two of them are hookless...which kind of defeats the purpose.

[Michigander]

17 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Yep - no more than two hooks/lures per rod...and they have to be within 9" of each other as measured from hook/lure-junction-hook/lure.

 

Though I COULD do the 4-fluke rig...if two of them are hookless...which kind of defeats the purpose.

Well, you could experiment and see which two are the most likely to be bit, you could hedge your bets. Having four would still have drawing power.

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, Michigander said:

Well, you could experiment and see which two are the most likely to be bit, you could hedge your bets. Having four would still have drawing power.

That IS an idea - could rig the hookless ones up with a couple centering pins.

 

Something to think about...

[Jonas Staggs]

12 hours ago, Michigander said:

When you're ready for next level, try the quad fluke rig.

 

I did rig and try this a few years ago and it does indeed fish fine. PITA to rig up and store though.

 

I like that guys channel, he comes up with lots of different ideas 

[Michigander]

6 hours ago, Jonas Staggs said:

 

I like that guys channel, he comes up with lots of different ideas 

I'll have to watch through some of his videos then, I'm not really familiar with him. I was trying to find a different video on this rig from the early days of YouTube but couldn't locate it so I posted this one instead. Not a lot of content on this rig.